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Thoughts?

Personally I think its a good thing. By the looks of it we need an authoritarian figure who is going to take charge and lead. If he can get the best out of India he should be able to the best out of his fellow countrymen.
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Halle fucken lujah Very Happy
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Absolutely rapt. We need a headstrong coach with practical skill, not some puppet who panders to Vettori's ego.

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gc.
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Finally! The Wright man for th job! Now if only we had some players who could bat, and some players who can bowl!
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fish_boy said:
Finally! The Wright man for th job! !




oh PLU-EEASE. As if there sint going to be enough of that crap in the media Froggy
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One thing about this appointment that strikes me is the overwhelming support it seems to have. EVERYONE seems to like John Wright, but something else has clearly been happening behind the scenes that has made him wait so long to get this job. What could this be? An obvious and popular explanation is the likes of McCullum and Vettori are feeling super cosy …..and don’t particulary like John Wright and a stricter regime he may implement.

Or perhaps…just perhaps….. there is something else. Maybe John isn’t all the {somewhat information deprived} public think he is. His fighting skills as a player were obvious but his record wasn’t actually incredibly flash. Was he really a large part of that brilliant Indian fightback vs a then unbeatable Australian team?

Ive always wanted Wright at the helm, I think he should have replaced Bracewell……so obviously I support this appointment. But something stinks. Why do the players seem to not share this enthusiasm? And why do we not see high profile sports administrators/coaches echoing the calls of the public? And why the hell did it take so long for him to get there, with clear lame ducks like Paddy and Moles getting in before him? Something is awry and Im not quite as quick to lay the blame at the feet of lazy players. If Vettori is really that self serving and non-progressive, he has done a brilliant job of misrepresenting his personality traits to us all.

While I was thinking this through ….something else struck me as unusual re nz cricket politics. Who are 3 high profile and (unusually) well performing NZ cricketers so somehow got shafted at the end of their careers and ended up retiring a good few years early? (like we can afford to do this)

Shane Bond
Stephen Fleming
Nathan Astle

Pretty much the only 3 that I can think of who suffered this fate, and yet all three are from the same province. As far as the math goes…that a pretty fkn big co incidence

Anyone wanna take a guess where J.Wright is from?
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Thought provking stuff, although Wright and Braewell are good mates thus Wright refused to replace Bracewell as he didn't want to take his mates job is wy he didn't take over immediately, but the fact it's taken so long to appoint him since Moles demise certainly suggests there might be something else along the lines you've pointed out Maesty.
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The Maestro said:
And why the hell did it take so long for him to get there, with clear lame ducks like Paddy and Moles getting in before him?

Maybe he had conditions that came with having him as coach. I know he's not in favour of large numbers of support people and other such hangers on to the team, so maybe he wanted rid of other people and this was rejected. But now perhaps with the team's performance in such disarray NZ Cricket have decided to let him have his way with the team so he's agreed to be coach.
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The Maestro said:

While I was thinking this through ….something else struck me as unusual re nz cricket politics. Who are 3 high profile and (unusually) well performing NZ cricketers so somehow got shafted at the end of their careers and ended up retiring a good few years early? (like we can afford to do this)

Shane Bond
Stephen Fleming
Nathan Astle


Umm craig spearman?
From Auckland?
Who beat W G Grace and Hammond's records?
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put the crack pipe down vads
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John Wright wanted more autonomy than NZ Cricket were willing to give at the time. He also straight up wasn't interested in the job initally.

Also Vads, gtfo seriously. Craig Spearman was dropped because he failed time and time again at the top level. No great mystery there.
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dalai said:
John Wright wanted more autonomy than NZ Cricket were willing to give at the time. He also straight up wasn't interested in the job initally.

Also Vads, gtfo seriously. Craig Spearman was dropped because he failed time and time again at the top level. No great mystery there.


Craig Spearman would have been better than Martin Crowe given the right support.
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At bowling?
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dalai said:
John Wright wanted more autonomy than NZ Cricket were willing to give at the time. He also straight up wasn't interested in the job initally.

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This seems true but requires examining. Not sure what yo mean by "initially". JW always wanted the NZ coaching job. The only time he didnt was immediatly after living in India for (x) years, unsuprisingingly really ......he wanted to settle back down home rathr than start galivating around the globe again. So he ended up in high performance. But that was a loooong time ago and JW has been ready to step up for much of that time.

So here we finally have a kiwi with international coaching experience (with the Indians no less, who kind of know their cricket)....and who had success in that role. Its fairly obvious that he is perfect for the job, and NZC, whose agenda in its purest form is the heath of the game, should have been rolling out the welcome mat.ie If JW is so good, giving him autonomy should have been a no brainer. But they didnt, and this is where this whole thing doesnt add up

The whole "canterbury bias" thing is something that I kind of made up and dont really believe, but it is interesting and their is evidence to back it up. From memory JW played most of his prov cricket for ND
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Didn't Fleming play for Wellington just as long as he did for Canterbury?
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WTF?????


"...John Wright's tenure as national coach has had a rocky start, with cricket boss Justin Vaughan forced to over-rule Brendon McCullum's omission from the Twenty20 squad to face Pakistan.

McCullum's name was added to the squad yesterday after Vaughan, the NZC chief executive, intervened when he became aware McCullum was upset at being sidelined without a fitness test.

The Dominion Post understands the selection panel of Mark Greatbatch, Glenn Turner and Lance Cairns, along with new coach Wright and captain Daniel Vettori, decided to omit McCullum from the three-match series due to his back soreness, so he would be fit for the first test in Hamilton on January 7.

A source said the explosive batsman was "devastated" after being told of his omission by Greatbatch, and this was conveyed by an unknown person to Vaughan on Tuesday..."

Can anyone imagine what Graheme Henry would do if Jock Hobb's over-ruled the wishes of the All Black selectors and Richie McCaw and told they had to pick a player because he was upset at being dropped?

No wonder NZ Cricket is in the state it is in.
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Oh and the link... http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/4487745/McCullum-forces-Black-Caps-selectors-into-U-turn
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Absurd.

Heh, he can be in the squad then Wright should make him 12th man so his role is to carry the drinks onto the field.
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Thats fucked up. Players are left out all the time to get better. McCullum should prize the test matches more than the T20's but it would appear that he doesn't.
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McCullum cares more about showing good form before the IPL auction than he cares about NZ cricket.
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tol' u fullas. ROTTEN and insanely political. Vaughn is not the right man for CEO and when nzc is weak at the top and the sides stars are distracted by themselves we have a terrible time. Remember the Cairns-Parore era fiascos (before they both grew up) Thats where this team is at right now, perhaps Danny isnt the right captain either. Fleming could realistically still be playing ....
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The Maestro said:
tol' u fullas. ROTTEN and insanely political. Vaughn is not the right man for CEO ..


fuck you're an idiot. Justin Vaughan scored a debut ton for Auckland in FC cricket
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neil_armstrong said:
McCullum cares more about showing good form before the IPL auction than he cares about NZ cricket.



Precisely what I was thinking. :-/


Hey Vads, I once masturbated without ever taking my pants off, maybe this means I have the skills to be Leader of the Known Universe!


...oh wait.
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Fuck I hate T20 cricket Neutral

I wonder whether The Ashes or NZ-PAK is going to win the ratings war on Sky...
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Why so much hate?

This new kid Milne seems good. 18yr old and already clicking 140km/h ... very very promising!