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I think guys have got it right.
I have discovered that I am much happier in the company of my boyfriend’s mates than my own. Why?

Guys are simple (read: straightforward, not thick)
- There’s no bullshit (but a lot is talked)
- There’s no reading-between-the-lines.
- Nothing is said behind your back that wouldn’t be said to your face.
- Individual disagreements are thrashed out quickly and without mediation or factions.
- If you are bored, leave- and no one will be offended (or care…).
- If you think you look good, have done something awesome or are just really, really cool you are welcome to shout it from the rooftops.
- Tact is expressed, but answers are honest.

How can you have an honest relationship with your girlfriends if you are walking on eggshells and giving the “right” answers rather than the honest truth?

Chicks will often think that guys are arrogant. Personally, I think they are just more at-ease with their faults (due to ruthless hassling), enabling them to focus on their more endearing qualities.
I spend a lot of my day at work reassuring insecure girls about their various hang-ups. A little bit more frankness amongst their girlfriends would do people like this the world of good.

For God sake, lighten up!
Girls can be really temperamental, but guys will always keep just a little distance- cos you’re a girl and you might just have a psycho-episode at them.

I don’t wear heels cos their really uncomfortable

I rarely wear make-up, especially clubbing (but use 7 different hair products)

I like chick-flicks and Friends and fluffy animals.

I can squat 75kg and am damn proud of it.

I don’t own a handbag.

I complain about my weight

I don’t eat chocolate

If I ask if my butt looks big in these pants, and it does- PLEASE TELL ME SO I CAN GO AND CHANGE

If I piss you off, bloody say so! No frigging silent treatment!

I am a far cry from the perfect chick, but this attitude works really well for me. The only problem is that I have tonnes of “mates”, no enemies, (but cannot find any close “buddies”).
How do you guys see things?

Ladies, there is no need to be assuming or precious or neurotic.
People are not out to get you- including me.

PS. Let the feathers fly and fur bristle… but I feel better having said exactly how I see things.
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You know what, i happen to agree with you. I am a chick, and if i take a look around at my mates, i have not even a handful of female friends. Guys are fantastic. They arent into the gossip thing in a big way, dont worry about if you have a stain on your top, or your listick is smudged, or if your shoes match your top. I dont need to say anymore cos its all been said. I love all of my boys, they are the ones i turn to if i'm down cos they will attempt to cheer me up, not analyse everything to the point that i'm even more depressed. you always know where you stand with them. (of course there are always exceptions to the rule... take notes those of you that are like that) Smile
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One thing I will never get about guys:
WTF do they do in the toilet for so long? and why does it necessitate a book/magazine/nwespaper?
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Ah yes but at least we can go on our own to the bog. We don`t need a support group.
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Sorry but some guyz I know are 100 times worse than a chick could ever be:

They cheat... lie.... and are really bitchy.

I agree that girls are generally worse. But I guess it's just who you know.
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the only reason guys go by themselves is because of a small issue called penis envy! I know all about the urinal etiquette (sp)!!!! i can see this is gona get really nasty soon... (men are from mars etc) but i want to point one thing out to males all over the plece which should give us points straight off... this thread started off praising u lot, so watch what u sya... or you're likely to get the silent treatment from alot of biggie members Wink hehe
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ok. its late, excuse my typos.... for the record, yes i AM blond.
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I'll...ummmm.... just take a bow..... I invite all the other guys to do the same

BTW... Caz... Please fill in the blanks:

Guys are .....
Boys are ..... :o)

I wanna check this tonight, I can almost write some people's posts for them before they do. (Mostly girls who have been cheated on)
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Has anyone else noticed that we are in the bitch centre of the world? NZ chix are notoriously up themselves even the rancid looking ones. This is a bit of a generalisation but I'm afraid it's true, kind of like asians and driving, nice people but they can't drive.
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Numba1 dont let one "you know who" spoil it for the rest of us Smile actually two..... no wait .... ok point taken but most guys are not that bad
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I'm with you 100% Harry on this one. I have precisely 4 friends who are girls (2 of which live overseas). The rest of my friends are all guys and I love hanging out with them so much more than chicks. They are far more easy going, plus I think haning out with them makes me a far less self conscious and bitchy person. I always feel at ease with myself when I am with them. However, I do miss clothes shopping with girls!! That's something my guy friends will never understand!
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Yeah, I agree with Number1. Some guys are shocking too.
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I was sitting here thinking that the "Up Themselves" call was not quite right but I cant disprove it in my head.

Im gonna stay quiet 'cause every sentance I come up with is gonna get me in shit :o)
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Touch - I cant fault you on your opinions, bang
on the mark !!!!!
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wow caz, seeing you are a female shouldn't your have referred to yourself as a blondE?

thank you
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touch - you are so right!

Im a born & bred 100% Aucklander (we're kinda rare I reckon) Ive found all of these 'Hollier than thou' attitudes from girls - they seem to think that they are so cosomopolitan and walk around with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp!

A lot of my male friends that have travelled say that Kiwi girls are the most unfriendly. I reckon thats shocking.

Im just a Westie chick living in Parnell. Quite balanced I thought!

95% of my friends are men - lets just hope that my b/f can cope with this statistic!




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I think we are thinking about the same people too funkstar! Smile Hehe... down with shore boys and lawn-mower dancing men!
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Girls are so friggin' prescious! Some (note that: 'some') of you seem convinced you are the dog's bollix and that we're all reeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy interested in your weight, your hair, your clothes etc.... boring, boring, boring!
For God's sake ladies, chill out and get on with life. It's not the cards life has dealt you, it's how you play the hand you have.
Some things are just not that important.
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good point Frank. My sister has the same view harry. Before she hooked up with her current b/f she used to hang out with me and my mates in town etc because we didnt bitch about silly things that you mentioned. Now she never goes out, "lamer" Smile
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My first flat was four girls and me... The nightmares have ceased, but the trauma is still there, I'm seeing my counceller less frequently though.
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Heavenly, my boyf if a much more enthusiastic shopper than I am. He shops and I wait outside the changing rooms (Smooves has comfy chairs so I like it when he shops there).
I think he even has more shoes and buys a new funky shirt every pay week.
Guy shoppers do exist- and its also great to get a guys opinion when you are about to buy a pair of hotpants or a sequined bikini- like I want to now but haven't tried on yet. He's definately coming with me for that purchase.
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Holy shit.. talk about role reversal.. not that I think men and woman should stick to 'roles'!.. good on ya.

My shopping expeditions are like this.. Go to shop, get item, purchase, leave.

When I went with Ex/gf, its more like this.

Go to shop number one, she tries on 10 outfits, says "do you like this Dave", "Do you like this?", "Does this make me look fat?". I 'very enthuastically' answer.. "Yeah, yeah, nah".

Repeat process for shops 2 - 6.

Go back to shop one... buy first outfit.

Oh, and there IS no right answer for "Does this make me look fat". No is unacceptable as "your just saying that...!"




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Oh.. yeah, she was fully neurotic of course! I know that now.
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well i still stick to my original opinion. it is comforting to know that there are other chicks out there that hold the same opinion!!


Danjah - you are right of course if we are going to get pedantic about such things. blondE. not that it makes a difference. its actually an American/English pelling difference like color/colour - look it up
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hahahah ok Spelling difference - before anyone picks up on that...
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Ok this is a little off the topic but touch bought it to mind.
WTF is with that i am so cool and really borded facial that is everywhere at the moment

And yes NZ girls are very up themselves (not all)
Just cause someone says 'hi' it doesn't mean they are hitting on you.
Relax
Or are you sharing the same pole as the shore boys?
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Theoretically, I enjoy shopping but I just can't handle it. After 3 shops, I'm exhausted (unless I'm gadget shopping, thats different). Like most guys, I decide what I'm going to buy before I go out and then buy it.

Dave, if the bridgekeeper from Monty Python had been female - thats the question she would have asked! Basically as soon as shes asked that - you're fucked. You may as well say 'yes' and get it over and done with. Anyone got a good answer for the Question of Death?

Pluto - quite right. Kiwis living in New Zealand are reticent motherfuckers. But hey, get them overseas and POW! Look at em' go!
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Im not blonde, I have very short brown hair.
(but its not a buzz cut).
I dont have tattoos on my biceps or drive a truck names bertha either.
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my mates get the truth, as i see it, and they respect that, they know i don't intend to hurt them, and besides aint it usually the truth that hurts
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Don't even bother answering the Question of Death...


JUST RUN!!()&$(*#@)(&$

RUN FOR THE HILLS ($#)&#@)(*$&)(*#@&)($*!!!


Wink
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pfft. i always tell the truth and get told i'm real nasty for doing so *psh* i'm the most unchickish chick i know *hehe*
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I find the most mature girls I know all act more like guys. Sorry if this insults you ladies, and don't comment on the girls I know, but I do belive in a non chauvenistic way that what Harry said is true. It just ends up being a disadvantage to girls though, as I've noticed their friends are never as close or as good as males'.
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Amen to that Dr. J.
Guys: TAKE A DAMN GOOD BOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I always knew we lads had it togetherSmile
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*no offence taken*
pfft what really bugs me are those little comments people make like "that's not very lady-like" PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT who cares??
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Interesting comments... Up until a year ago I would have agreed wholeheartedly.. I have always had heaps of _male_ friends.. drifted away from female friends after the dramatic adolence period... decided I didn't want the crap..

Up until I hooked up with my chickens, I beleived that 80% of females were so fucked up (insecure or whatever) that they couldn't ever relax enough to have a proper meaningfull friendship...

The group of friends I have now are the sort of people you never think you'd find - we just 'clicked' from the start - the secret: no bullshit. The "this is me, I make no exuses and tell no lies" attitude that we all share has meant there were no boundries from the start.

I think an important thing to note is that none of us have had what you'd call an 'easy' life, there's been a life-changing experience or three in there for all of us - we are the 'if it doesn't kill you - it makes you stronger' types! These women have grown, hurt, mended and moved on - they know what they want...

It's a time thing - and certainly a maturity thing, but not _all_ girls are fucked... :0)
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As sensei Lucan would say: "Girls are strange. Nice though."