what would you do?

Hypothetically ..

What would you do if you took photos for a certain dance website, and some promotors went and used them on their fliers without getting any knowledge through to the photographer?

Whos property are the photos?
Are they the dance websites?
Are they the photographers?
or do they belong to the group of people who held the event where the photos were taken?

Im just curious about this one ...

Good Question..

taken from the bottom of biggie..




at the end of the day, there isnt a hell of alot you can do to stop them (unless taking them to court, but how many of us can do that) except right them an abusive email, dont do to the gig, dont support their mag.

from my knowledge i havent had ne photos "stolen" but i have been asked if they could be used

I think it would kinda nice for a photographer to be told that their photos were going to be used on a flyer and perhaps credited for them like Jolyon does with Infusion.

But yea - what Zenith quoted

Who used what photos?

I ask people to credit the photographers from Biggie if they use them...

If you've been given free entry to an event to take photos at - that event should be granted to use of those photos. I think that is a fair deal

Other promotors shouldn't take them though...

i think wateva cause i dont take photos for anyone muaajhahaa

well sometimes


ive forgotten the question anyway ems liking my eye

I wasnt given the ticket for free at this particular event ...

I paid my way in quite happily ..
had I been asked I would have probably sent the originals in happy to see my photos in a flier ..

to go to criminal records and see that 4!! of my photos have been place in this flier without recieving any word kinda aggrovates me ...
I know it shouldnt make a difference .. but for some reason it does .. common courtesy I woulda thought?

id go around all the shops and remove the flyers, and let the promoter know what ur doing, after its all to late of course..

whats the gig out of interest?

it doesnt matter .. I have nothing against the promotors .. and as I said, had they asked I probably would have sent them in anyway .. just hearing nothing, and then seeing them .. just irks me a bit ... it shouldnt, but it does ..

hmm na they should definatly ask you first..you took them they are yours doesnt matter if they are up on their website etc..in the end u took them..having them on a actual flier is a big thing..so yeh...i think u should have been asked!

I thought it was just hypothetically speaking?



And I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

If you're going to start talking about 'rights to photographs' and all that. None of those photos were legally allowed to go up on any website - as the event didn't ask you to take photos (nor did you ask permission) and you didn't get consent from all of the subjects in the photos.

But, none of this legal stuff comes up with the dance scene (usually) because it's all about helping each other out.

BJ - Leave the politics to the politians

i think that the person should at least get told or asked but shouldnt really b that big of a deal
i think i would b quite happy if i saw one of my photos used on a flier

but if ur that kinda person i guess it would b nice if u were asked or told first

i reckon they should put tho like

pictures from www.biggie.co.nz

tho the flier im talkin bout anyway has the biggie logo on it i think

but yea more for people who see pics of themselves on the flier and might want to go find the pic or soemthing

its fine in my opinion i would be happy if someone put my photos up

I would definitely hunt them down and kill them

Umm no, we are legally allowd to take photos .. there was no where around saying "no cameras allowed" there were no tickets with this sorta thing printed on ... Larger events all have "still, video or movie cameras, and other recording devices may not be allowed"
and when you take the photo of the person you say "this is going on blah blah blah website," and they agree to it, or I delete .. thats permission enough ....

but the website I take for also has a "biggie disclaimer" saying no portions can be used ..

hey Dave, honestly if your gonna have a "go" at me (and I say this in the loosest sense of the term) then at least know what your saying, because honestly..

and again .. I say, I dont mind they got used .. but finding out well after they had been printed .. what if I DID or what if this website DID have a problem with them being published? .. what if I had sold the rights to one of these photos to a printing company to make posters ...

thats what I have a problem with ......
they werent to know what I had planned with those photos and there is the issue I am having .. not that they got used.

bleh .. sorry meant to delete that "have a go at me" line .. I know your not .. (hence the loose sense of the term) but you see my last point .. that is why I was asking "who owns the photo" ..

but I have pmed the people involved, sorted it out with them, and I said the same thing to them as I did to you ..

Im not trying to cause a fuss ... but if its gonna take that track im more than happy to defend my position ...

Hypothetically of course