Vibra-train??

Has anyone tried this out?

I was having a squiz in a fitness mag the other day and the write up seemed really good...

For those that have tried it or know others that have, what kind of results did you/they see after what length of time?

I'd imagine it's a pretty good thing, I mean just look at the name!

best way to get rid of cellulite that I have ever found and all my friends who also do it will agree

do you need to know more?

Fucking wicked!!!

Highly recomended.

not only is it great for getting rid of cellulite it also helps to increase your bone density, it burns 1000 calories every session, it only takes 12-15 minutes to complete one session, it tones muscle better than any resistance program and the technology that is employed was developed in the Russian space program

I could go on and on and on . . .

Does help thankyou Snowflake

Is it a drastic difference to the likes of your standard workout?
I already excerise most days...but am just looking for that extra edge

it is a shock to the system at first and I know one of my best friends, who is a total fitness and nutrition goddess, found it really intense and spent a few days in pain afterwards because it is a really hard workout


do not go any more frequently than once every two days, it is not recommended and if you want to see results quite quickly then you should go about 3 times a week and do it in conjunction with your gym cardio/resistance routine


it will give you that little bit extra that you are looking for though, i did vibratrain 3 times a week in conjunction with my yoga classes, which I went to every day and I toned up pretty fast and I looked the best that I have done in recent times


I would definitely suggest that you try it, if that is what you are looking for and get an informed opinion on the subject


I will only tell you good things about this because I worked hard to get the best results that I could and it paid off for me at the time but who knows, I may have got the same results if I had of just done a cardio/resistance program and yoga combo as well

Wicked!! Thankyou so much for your input snowflake

it's a very good workout for the modern person. if one is looking for fitness for general shape and body tone etc, then vobra-train is a great way to go about.

it's not so good for actual sportsmen though, or for those looking to use their fitness/muscles for a specific purpose. from what i've been told, vibra-train recruits the muscles in a different fashion, and doesn't provide any sport specific benefit.



gc.

Went for a session today ...Similar post- sensation as if you had just been for a mammoth run!!
I've done other exercise today and don't feel too buggered...there's a good chance I'll be singing a different tune tomorrow though...

i found it almost embarrassing when i first started going because the sessions are only 12-15 minutes long and the sweat that you can work up in such a short amount of time is almost ludicrous

the only other workout i do where i come out with my shirt stuck to my back and sweat rolling down my face is when i go to bikram yoga


you should start to see results after about 3 or 4 weeks if you go 3 times a week or if not sooner with your combined gym routine

1000 cals in 15 mins is bullshit... We have two vibra trains at work, and i really dont understand how they can do more work than going for a run, and doing weight training. If you are going to use them, use them in conjunction with some other form of exercise.

Straight from the instructors mouth yo.

Tragic - I'm joining your gym... does that give me free access to the vibra train as part of my membership?

By vibrating your C.N.S you can cause every muscle to twitch at whatever hertz rating (vibrations per seconds) the vibrations are set at. So if the vibrations are set at 20 Hz then your muscles will move 20 times a second. Your muscles are capable of moving up to 150 times per second quite safely. This rapid movement causes the body to burn large amounts of energy (Kj / Cal) hence emptying the fat cells of their stored carbohydrates. For example, one 10 minute training session on 50 Hz will burn approximately 5000 Kj / 1000 Cal of energy. The reason for the large amount of energy burnt is because up to 100% of your muscle fibers are recruited in Vibration Training, unlike normal exercise that only uses up to 70% of them. Also, during the 50 Hz training session your muscles move 3000 times per minute and just in case you are wondering, yes it does feel like exercise.

Tragic ... maybe you need to do a little reasearch or get a new jogb.

Sincerely,
Jeeves

Jeeves, are you quoting from experience or a promotion brochure / website?

I'm with Tragic and Supamaorifulla, I have done a free session on them and would say 1000 calories in 15 minutes is simply dreaming.

clearly you weren't doing it properly

it's not a case of standing on the vibration plate and letting it do all the work for you

I will let Jeeves answer the question thanks.

Well, I wouldn't have a clue if it burns that many calories for sure or not...but I went to the gym today and my god, I haven't had my muscles ache that deep down in a long time. The same workout I normally do with a reletive amount of ease was bloody hard!! So, in my unqualified opinion it seems that vibra train does target and penetrate muscles that aren't normally or easily worked out; thus burning more energy...

Clearly that was straight from the horses mouth!

Sincerely,
Jeeves

Just asked a biomechanist and he said the hz thing is ridiculous.

And Jeeves I suppose when you sit on the bike and it tells you youve burnt 90cal in 10 minutes, you believe it? Even my boss knows machines are liars, he has been in the industry since 1976, and knows wtf he is on about. Don;t get sucked in by marketing.

I dont bike ... i drive

Sincerely,
Jeeves

You know what I mean

Firstly Tragic , you cant have 2 Vibra-Trains at work. You can only have them if you have a licensed Vibra-Train premises. There are none at any gyms in N.Z. Maybe someone has duped your boss into buying a Vibration Therapy machine ( which there is about 40 different types about ) in which case i wouldnt expect it to work to well either.

What is the actual brand name of the unit. I will give you the specs , so you will know what it was designed for.

And "Vibra-Train" is a trademarked term . So if someone has tried to pass one off as mine , i would love to know.

And VADINHO you need to ask a Zooligist about involuntary muscle recruitment , why on earth would you ask a biomechanist about something not in his curriculum ? That makes no sense at all.
1000 cal is nothing to use during a fight or flight response.
We are primates first , human ego second.


And to finish off , athletes need purpose built units designed to be worked into a program . And exposure would be limited. And there are 5 machines in the sports series.

I have confirmation from a sports scientist who has been researching vibration training, who agrees that is sucks that people are advertising the fact that you can burn 1000 cals in 10 minutes.

A sports scientists Jeeves.. You think he should get a new job too?

And yes I took your advice and got a new job. Managing a vibration training studio

Where I will be telling EVERYONE that they CANNOT burn 1000 cals in 10 minutes. so shoot me!

sounds like crap to me.

Jeeves is pretty spot on. And if you do some google research you will see Sport Scientist confirming it Don't see any not confirming it.

I got a flier in the mail for it, which got me interested. Does anyone have a price quote for one session?

it's $10 per session or $15 if you do the cellulite massage at the end as well (which I would recommend)

Thanx.

Does it REALLY burn 1000 cals in ten minutes?? I mean really?

I have worn heart rate moniters a few times in my advanced spin class and we burn just about 1000 cals in a 45 minute no breaks at all VERY high intensity class.

Sorry, but the laws of physics just don't allow for it in my humble I've studied enough for my qualifications experience.

I agree (as another qualifed fitness professional). I'm almost tempted to wear a heart rate monitor and do a vibratrain session to see what happens. The most calories I ever burned in one race was 10000 over 6 hours, which works out at around 166 calories per ten minutes. Methinks the 1000 odd calories in 15 minutes is a rort.

Well i asked Lloyd Shaw on the vibra train forum, and he said that "a" model was tested by medical experts, and yes, apparently you burnt 1000 cals. However, it's not the specific vibra train machine, and as far as I know, the medically tested model, is just that, a machine for medical testing.

http://www.vibra-train.co.nz/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=209

Thats the answer I got. there is another thread that argues it a bit more.

Aside from calorie burning, it's fun And I intend on making the most of managing a studio

Well if it works, PLEASE hook me up. I could do with burning 1000 cals in ten minutes.

In fact hook me up for an hour, per day.

I'm trying to say that 1000 cals won't work missy!

But doing a prone hold on those babies is a killer

And such exercises.

Fucking HATE those bitches with a passion.

I went and did a session.. Was interesting. I'm going to be sore tomorrow because i also did legs at the gym

Give me all the details at supper, wanna see what this here baby is all about.

hehe sorry to bring this up again, but Jeeves, I notice you got this straight from the vibra train website maybe mangled in a few of your own words.

Now that I have been working with vibration machines, i have had the chance to research them and have found out that majority of people gain better results from a lower frequency, between 30 and 40Hz. I have this research on hand if you need it sent to you The ladies I have been working with have all had excellent results from this lower frequency. There is no research that says you burn 1000 cals in 10 minutes and I jumped on the vibra train forums and asked Lloyd himself, and did not get a straight answer.

These forums have now been locked for some reason. Maybe because he was badmouthing every other machine that is put out there? I'm not sure, but he definitely plays a catty game.

Also, I will correct one of my first posts made months ago. At the time the guy (who was from Vibra train in the city) sold these machines to us, so we mistakingly called them Vibra-train, however they are more of a therapy machine for the gym. (They are different to the ones I am working with now)

There are so many machines out there, that if you are going to do this seriously you need to trial them all and figure out for yourself which one is best for you.

Hi Tragic
Are these the same as what you have (see link below)? After reading all these threads for so many months I really want to go try it out...
www.vibra-gym.com.au

sorry should have mentioned I am in Melbourne hence why posting website of my local one

They're different to ours but still the same concept

Go and try it!

I'm interested in vibration training also and am wondering if all providers and machines are similar.

Does anybody know if there is a difference between the different brands/gyms, and if so what's the difference? What should I look out for?

Any help appreciated.

It really just depends on whats closest to you They are all the same concept in the end, as much as everyone tries to tell you how their machine is better.

You hop on, hold some poses, vibrate awhile, get off again. Simple My advice is go and get a free trial at all the studios surrounding your area, and decide youself which one was the nicest. Everyone has differing opinions.

Cool. Thanks for the advice.

Yep...you need to try it yourself and see if it suits you, cos every single body and mind is different.

I was lured in with the thought of gaining core strength cos I don't like exercises....besides I play tennis 2-3 times a week.

I bought 10 sessions but have used only 6, and quit cos my knee caps got sore. I don't know if it was vibe train or not..but...my long time low back pain and pain running down the length of my leg has completely disappeared and the bad ankle I had has not resurfaced. 7 years of pain...GONE.

At least the vibe trainer did'nt try to BS me when I told her about my knee caps. I have'nt been near the place for 3 months now. I'm stoked and still pain free and I might go back and finish the rest of my sessions to see if my knee caps get sore....and then again, I suppose that would be just plain stupid! It sure was worth it! for me.

I did my exercises diligently, especially the leg ones, but I suxed at the upper body exercises and afterwards I felt I'd had a work out cos I was always thirsty despite sipping in between exercises.

I did the cellulite exercise but I did'nt see any difference unfortunately. I only weigh in at 55 kgs but I've got flabby thunder thighs. Might need more sessions to see a difference...I don't know. Each one to his own.

You can buy the home model machines in Botany-Howick. They cost about NZ$600 and you can go try them out. I have'nt. When my knee caps got sore I was'nt interested. They don't hurt now tho.

Years of research has gone into vibration training. Just punch 'vibration training research' into google.

Sorry about the long post. My 2 cents worth?

does anyone know of any machines in the sandringham/st lukes/ mt eden area?

im looking to start this back up but have moved now

Why the fuck do I keep getting directed to this thread?