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The police, give it up for them.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1207/S00207/police-hammer-cannabis-growers-and-dealers.htm
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7299139/2500-arrests-in-cannabis-busts

"Police recognise that cannabis continues to be a major issue for New Zealanders and causes widespread harm to the community through health issues caused by addiction and related crime such as thefts and burglary." - Detective Inspector Paul Berry, manager Covert Operations, PNHQ

Good job Detective Inspector, fine work on the busts and also fine work on keeping a straight face while saying that too.

This latest battle win must indicate that the war on drugs truly is making a difference.

"A recent UN report highlighted New Zealand's consumption of cannabis, putting us amongst the highest users in the world." - Detective Inspector Paul Berry, manager Covert Operations, PNHQ

Oh.....so it's not? I see.

"When they raided homes police found multi-million dollar operations, including one which was allegedly run by a Wellington grandmother and her family and another by a Southland resident, who had accumulated millions of dollars in assets despite being unemployed for more than 20 years."

Fine work there too, arresting a grandmother and an unemployed man. Wait, unemployed? Millions of dollars worth of assets? Sounds to me like you just crushed the successful business of an entrepreneur.

FINE WORK, NEW ZEALAND POLICE. YOU CAN'T PROSECUTE YOUR WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG ON ANYTHING THAT MATTERS (KAHUI TWINS, GUY, GWAZE, DOTCOM ETC), BUT HEY LOOK HERE'S AN EASY PR WIN, DRUGS! EVIL EVIL DRUGS! MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF THEM!


Jerks.
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Still futile

While doing research for yesterday's post on party-pill regulation, I came across an old post of mine on the government's "war on P", commenting on their October 2010 progress report. This sparked my curiosity, so I dug up their most up-to-date progress report [PDF], which was released quietly back in May. what does it show? The price of P is stable at $100 a point, and has even dropped according to one survey. Availability and purity are pretty much unchanged. So, all of that effort the police put into combating P, all those raids and arrests and prosecutions and convictions? They've made no fucking difference whatsoever.

We're spending millions of dollars a year on this. And on an empirical assessment, it seems to be pretty much a complete waste of money. Time to try something else.


http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/still-futile.html

war on drugs... the police accountants biggest wet dream ever

whose high right now?
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I think we're about 10-15 years away from being able to be realistic about this without it being political suicide. At that poin thte Keys, Andertons, and Dunnes shoud be gone and the baby boomers voting block should be weak enough to debate it without making it about being SOFT ON CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my entire life there's always been that guy that says
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I think we're about 10-15 years away from being able to be realistic about this without it being political suicide.


when I was a slave we called him uncle tom

its economic and political suicide to think the world hasn't changed

yet we continue to kill ourselves anyway

demand change today

come visit my blog www.puffnstuff.com - I'll do ya a deal (sorry no digital conversions)
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it's a catering website.

Some really nice dishes though!
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I wonder how much this will impact on families and children when the people who've been sprung get sent to jail. Without judging this to be a (un)worthy crime or not there'll be some strong ramifications on the communities from whence the people came.
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its how I make my living

check out the blog, I'm real big on Monograms

which is code for


Monograms

FML
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wonder how many will get off on some technicality due to poor policing.... and lack of evidence

headlines are good for the tough on crime mob - the end result... won't be reported

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Someone i know was the target of a 2 month operation, which included 24hour surveillance, wire taps, microphones in his house etc etc etc. Police fucked up so badly his sentence went down from 14 years to something like 7 or 8.
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Sir youve been charged with possession of two cannabis cigarettes....

"Wtf! you took way more than that from me!!" ooops.
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gummi_bear said:



Drugs on the table!



The Wire has totally changed my perception of policing works...
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Yeah we're not 10-15 years away imo. The really.fucking.thick people will always outnumber us.
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Itchy said:
I wonder how much this will impact on families and children when the people who've been sprung get sent to jail. Without judging this to be a (un)worthy crime or not there'll be some strong ramifications on the communities from whence the people came.


it's pretty horrible when you hear about little kids who test positive to meth through hair follicle testing due to their exposure to their parents/families' baking habits etc.

kids don't deserve to be exposed to this kinda lifestyle.
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It would be fascinating to do ethnographic research with the cops and get some insider insights into their fcuked up culture
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I think it's safe to classify the different types of cops without research:
- Old curmudgeons, mostly in leadership roles now
- Old good cunts who know the score
- Tough guys who wanna kick in some heads
- Good honest cops who do their job well
- Ones who used to be good cops as above but have transformed thru years on the job to jaded motherfuckers in any of the above negative categories.
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That's a list of personality types, i'd be interested in knowing the institutionalised values coppers are socialised into
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In respect to the kind of rhetoric we see in a press release like this, it's to be expected, that's the party line they have to run. Drugs are illegal and police are tasked with enforcing that law. It certainly helps that after a run like this:








...then a nice little PR win with some nice pictures of siezed drugs and guns and mass arrests is just what the doctor ordered.
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OneHappy said:
That's a list of personality types, i'd be interested in knowing the institutionalised values coppers are socialised into


"Shut the fuck up, stick together and lets crack some heads" isn't enough? :>


Seriously, as much as I'm ragging on them now, there's NO FUCKING WAY I would even do their job, and I totally understand why so many of them become defensive, twitchy, uptight arseholes, no doubt many of us would too in their position. One of the most thankless and hated jobs on the planet, when by and large most of my interactions with them have been positive. When it hasn't, I've been breaking the law anyway so.....
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kris_b said:
OneHappy said:
That's a list of personality types, i'd be interested in knowing the institutionalised values coppers are socialised into


"Shut the fuck up, stick together and lets crack some heads" isn't enough? :>


Seriously, as much as I'm ragging on them now, there's NO FUCKING WAY I would even do their job, and I totally understand why so many of them become defensive, twitchy, uptight arseholes, no doubt many of us would too in their position. One of the most thankless and hated jobs on the planet, when by and large most of my interactions with them have been positive. When it hasn't, I've been breaking the law anyway so.....



Well said.
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Yeah, much respect to most of the police who make our communities safer. I thought about being a cop when I was young, but quickly decided against it as there'd be some massive differences of opinions ... in that my version of what's actualy bad and warrants an arrest would be wildly different from the Po Po.
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we've an unaccountable, incompetent police force

some sterling officers and back room staff but from the top down the force is filled with incompetents (a huge cluster at the top) and its blindingly obvious to all but the blind and dumb
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Christ, I didn't even think about the other hilarious fuck up that really put them in a bad light:


I don't disagree that management and "institutional philosophy" (to make up a phrase I think fits) is pretty broken.
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WHAT IF SOMEONE TAPED PARENTS TALKING ABOUT THEIR CHILD AND THAT CHILD KILLED THEMSELF! HUH? HUH?
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it would be front page of the herald for weeks

and columnists would be so pleased

won't someone please kill the children
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I know a lot of people who have personal campaigns to get drugs off the streets that they volunteer time to each and every weekend.
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Do they just do it themselves or work with/for an organisation?
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bob daktari said:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7308493/Top-cops-son-gets-merciful-sentence-after-kidnapping



That's ridiculous. The best bit is at the end where his lawyer argued home detention would make him a risk - surely jail would be a better option then?
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Itchy said:
Do they just do it themselves or work with/for an organisation?


They mostly work in small groups taking stuff out of the hands of street level dealers and disposing of it.
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I've a compost if they need a secure place for disposal

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jbs said:
Itchy said:
Do they just do it themselves or work with/for an organisation?


They mostly work in small groups taking stuff out of the hands of street level dealers and disposing of it.


Laughing
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jbs said:
Itchy said:
Do they just do it themselves or work with/for an organisation?


They mostly work in small groups taking stuff out of the hands of street level dealers and disposing of it.


Safer Communities, Together.
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Mean, I'm for all helping with that, where do i sign up?
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what? no.. this is the true heroe in the WAR ON DRUGS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zf0tmAexpQ
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When the goth kid is saying you're a wanker does that mean your life is going really right or really wrong?
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I'd rather be called a wanker by a goth kid than not
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It's why they're goths in the first place isn't it? because we're all conformist wankers?
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show me a goth individual and I'll show you a hippy kid dressed in black
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davil said:
It's why they're goths in the first place isn't it? because we're all conformist wankers?


I'm actually a goth, I just don't conform to their confirmist goth image.