Trance is Shit.....

That is all I have to say on that matter.

We should all listen to Techno.. you know it's the natural progression.

Just admit it.

There is only so many swordy stabs and riffs a man can handle.

Your face is shit.

What about tech trance?

how about you dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
techno rockers for life

saying you like tech trance in Auckland is like saying Kelston & Auckland Grammar School rugby players are all niggas.

never say a genre shit. it's all about people's preference.

so take that shit back to your mouth

Results are in amigo, whats left to ponder?

no genre is better than another (like art) that has never changed and never will end of story.

Whatever kurtis, my taste in music is better than anyone elses

I must say there is an increasing amount of crap on beatport at the moment.... *Not that I could do any better, bah*

No, theres the same amount of crap on beatport, you're just getting more discerning

Trance is the shit.

End of story.

Blah.

That's also what i think about the genre.
I'm not the biggest trance fan anymore but if there's a good song out then i'll take it.

So the jury is out.

It's all about Techno!

Although I would have to say, Trance Dj's are technically shitter then Techno Dj's.

Thats fact right there.

its amazing what you can get away with when your music has no substance or melody.

bullshit...

ryder looking for a bite here

Can't argue with fact... Technically who is the best Trance DJ then. I can't think of any.

Paul Van Dyk Live would kill Hawtin

Was just reading an article on inthemix where Martin Roth slagged off standard uplifting trance tracks...and theres another one where PVD does the same...

Paul Van Dyk - Eins Live Rocker - Sat - 05-07-2009

1. Carl Cox with Norman Cook - That's The Bass (Cox's Rock Drums Mix)
02. Nathalie Makoma - I Won't Forget (PvD Rmx)
03. Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now (ID Rmx)
04. Systematic vs. Thomas Gold - Don't Tell (Thomas Gold Rmx)
05. Dave Darell ft. Hardy Hard - Silver Surfer (Club Mix)
06. Dino fights Amnesia - Something Is Shaking
07. Lustral - When My Satellite Falls Down (Kush Dub)
08. Cosmic Gate - F.A.V.
09. David Forbes - Conetic
10. ID - ID
11. Fast Distance - Big Ben
12. ID - well known
13. PvD - Forbidden Fruit (ID Rmx)
14. PvD - For An Angel 2009 (PvD Rmx '09)
15. Filo & Peri ft. Aruna - Ashley (First State Rmx)
16. Talla 2XLC - Salvation (TNR Rmx)
17. Fabio Stein & Claudia Cazacu - CazaKiStein (Fabio Stein's Simpler Mix)
18. Simon Patterson - Thump
19. Neal Scarborough - Tiberium (Activa Rmx)
20. Mr. Sam ft. T4L - Menkayo (Club Mix)
21. Ben Nicky - Special Moments (Steve Allen Rmx)
22. Adam Foley - For The Record
23. Alex M.O.R.P.H ft. Ana Criado - Sunset Boulevard (PvD Rmx)
24. PvD - For An Angel 2009 (Activa Rmx)
~~~*~~~

No uplift in there lol

Dude, awesome! *wipes tears*

Taste may be subjective, but skill level isn't.

CT just coz you live in Melb now doesnt mean you know everything

http://www.apple.com/pro/profiles/paulvandyk/

Awesome read that, cheers.. have always wondered what he used.

I was laughing at the "kill Hawtin" part as opposed to the idea of PVD playing live

Heh, I don't pretend to know everything but I've seen a lot of stuff here that I would never have had an opportunity to in NZ and I can't see how many of the trance DJs Ive seen (bar *maybe* a couple of exceptions) can compare technically to what I've seen from the likes of Derrick May, Stacey Pullen, James Zabiela, Richie Hawtin et al.

Not even counting the fact that trance, due its composition and the complexity of melodies doesn't allow the same freedom to chop, change, dissect, and pull stuff together the way that techno/progressive does.

Case in point: Joris Voorns Balance with over 100 tracks on it. It isn't possible to make this sound cohesive with trance...

Oh, and

Yeah the JV Balance is awesome. A great mix of Funk, Tech and Electronica. A perfect example of where technology is headed.

I wouldn't say techno DJs are better than trance djs technically its just different as you've mentioned.

I would say that the mastery of dozens of mixing tricks and techniques including the proliferation of looping, sampling, layering several tracks over each other simulatneously, keeping everything in key, in time, and all the other intangible parts like reading your crowd etc makes a DJ technically better than one that only has to focus on key mixing, beat matching, intangibles, and maybe the odd sample... but thats just me

I was thinking that it would be a lot harder to mix trance up because of it's melodic nature and structure, but that still doesn't count them better DJs than (let's say) techno DJs.
Get creative!

Melodic nature yes, structure no (it's a 4/4, just like techno ). But the melodies incompatibilities can be worked out through key mixing and the EQs.

Trance isn't easy to mix, nobody is claiming that, and the day that I see a trance DJ jamming four turntables (not serato, nor ableton), an effects unit and a sampler, I'll happily eat my words

nobody does that because it sounds shit.


techno is easy for 4 deck action

CT is trying to be elitist

Thank fuck! Somebody gets my point!! Hizzah

I love trance! I like some techno but it can get a bit boring.

Not sure what you all think, but ASOT '09 and Toronto '09 are shit compilations compared with their 2008 equivalents. Schulz's album in particular

trance is best fuck the rest

http://soundcloud.com/bevan-miller/bevan-miller-friday-sessions-vol11"

Techno... YES!

Ha ha, this thread is funny!
CT your a shit stirring cunny funt.

Oh hai LeKnight, what are you doing in here

I'm glad I saw this thread. It's good value.

Kurt has again amused..



I assume you're comparing who can play the biggest tune and not who is the most technically adept?

I saw Rob's trance thread and I thought Id head over for a laugh.

...btw what the fuck happened to Rob's trance thread?!!?!?

rob fishing here lol not gunna bother replying

but have a read of this

http://www.apple.com/pro/profiles/paulvandyk/

Yeah, read it. I'm about as sold on that as when I read Sasha was remixing all his tracks on the fly.

Sure he can play the keyboard during his sets, which sounds like a cool addition - but anyone who uses sequencer-based programs in their live performance is basically guaranteed to be playing about 1/5 of what looks live actually live - rather they have tons of pre-made elements which they just jam overtop of.

Don't make out he's standing there real-time coming up with new piece of music. He's changing synth settings and swapping out drums (and buzzing noises ).

Yeah I saw the Swedish Crap Mafia playing two finger basslines "live" and everyone was going apeshit.
What a load of rubbish.

Haha

That thread got modded, Rob got in trouble

Stink

Was still incredibly boring at SW4.

Now Hartwin..... Better then Armin... but not Schulz.

I have decided it's trances fanbwoys that make it gay, rather than the genre itself. Less mixes called "Euphoria" or "Emotions" or "Happyfuntimes" plz

I'll call my mix whatever the fuck i want

The mainstream tech trance, club trance, house trance that seems to dominate around here is mostly pretty crap IMO.

Psychedelic ftw

Trance started in India in the early 90s, not Europe in the mid 90s.

Trance started in Germany in the 80's as far as i know

Technically trance in it's earliest incarnation started in France in the late 70's

I spose it's debatable but...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music

1976..

I like his shirt.

Looks like something you would wear at MOS

look at the top 10 DJ from last year and tell me how many are trance DJ's? point proven..

http://www.djmag.com/top100

trance for life!

For some reason that video just shows up as a white square, but I'm going to assume by the year you've put there that it's Jarres Oxygene?

That's who I was referring to as well...

What point exactly? That the DJ Mag Top 100 Poll is the most overblown, oversold, hammed up, popularist, narcissistic, look-at-me-ma-I'm-a-fucking-superstar-DJ-gen, marketing fuelled piece of garbage that has ever dropped it's bowels on electronic music? Yes? Well in that case, I totally agree