The Sureslim program

Anyone had experience with this? I was just talking to a member who is on it,and I'm quite shocked.

-They don't take your bodyfat, but expect you to reach a certain weight no matter what. She has dropped 14kg and has another 13-14 to go (and she's muscley as fuck from pump, spin, vibration training and running).

-No ongoing body measurements, just randomly every 3 months or so

-3 meals a day with a maximum of 2 bits of fruit. No real carbs except 5 kruskits. No more than 3 meals a day. No milk, no cheese, no fruity yoghurt.

-Their consultants aren't actually qualified nutritionists. one lady she sees is just someone who is in the same boat as her.

-They go by BMI, and don't take into account her calories in vs calories out.

-She has paid a shitload of money, and is roped into a year, and expected to see the year out. She has now plataeued because they have not changed the eating plan ONCE since she joined 8 months ago.

I have forwarded my nutritionists details onto her

I used to think Sureslim was great, but now I reckon they aren't that healthy. one consultant said that 2-3 kgs a week weight loss is healthy.

heh.

fuck, if you're 200kgs it might be healthy. gotta love modern day practises that prey on peoples' lack of knowledge and take them for a ride without teaching them JACK.



gc.

I've always hated sureslim because of reasons above.

They give you those 3 meals a day and don't let you eat more than 5 hours apart, which most of us know is a tad wrong fat burning wise.

It costs you 900 to join and they make you sign a confidentiality clause, which to me screams cult-ish and they aren't qualified as nutritionists at all.

Its quite frightening seeing the 'personally perscribed' diet on paper, I've seen 4 of them from 4 different clients and thier exactly the same as the others.

confidentiality clause

i think a fair go or target investigation is in order. that sounds RIDICULOUS.

Yeah they make you a sign a waver stating that you will stay for a year and that you won't show your 'diet' and plan to anyone else, let them copy it or duplicate it in any way shape of form. Funny huh.

Jesus I give half my diets to other Personal Trainers, we all share stuff, most of these things should be knowledge for public consumption right?

I find the whole Sureslim thing VERY shady.

I mean whats so special about this blood test that they give you? Cant you just go to your local GP for $40 and ask for the same deal?

the member involved asked the consultant for another breakfast idea to which the reply was, "There isn't one".






I'd be keen to get some P.I onto the job

getting some pacific islanders to beat them up is an excellent idea

Heh we should write to target!

There are two breakfasts I've seen, both crap.

Of course sureslim people loose a lot of weight fast, its cause they're only allowed to eat 1/2 a tomato for 12 weeks, I wonder what they look like 6 months after they've finished though huh.

Damn right...I've witnessed first hand some downright scary advice. One girl who came to me after some initial success with SureSlim, decided to train for a triathlon. Her exercise worklad increased from 20 minutes a day to 60-90+ minutes daily, the only advice the sure slim consultant gave her when she questioned them was...."keep your eating regime the same, just add more vegies!!!"
True story!
Google my site.Real Nutrition.co.nz

kbman, we are always bigupping real nutrition when it comes to reccomending nutritionists

Not a bad site, kbman

ohhhhhh identify yourself please im a regular real nutrition groupie, have been seeing jax for AGES, shes the best.

Along with that i think i have referred just about everyone i know who has asked about nutritionists to real nutrition, including more than a few biggies!

It ain't that hard to work out Honey

My money is on Tim Dale

not SO EASY MISTER

as they have opened a new site in Mt wellington and they have new people working there SOOOOOOOOO


not even.....

but COOL if it is, WELCOME!!

Hmmmmmm....would prefer to remain anonymous. Hint, Marc Rainbow I am not, he can't spell anonymous! Thanks Honey for talking up Real and Jax. Hey D-man, are you the same D-man who frequents Lisa Menzie's forum?

Marc Rainbow is an apalling speller.

I'll go with Rachel Jones from Real Nutrition, if it's someone from there.

While we are on the nutritionist thing, I'll put in a plug for Alison Rainbow. Best results I have ever had with a nutrionist. No bullshit, just honest simple programs that work.

Lastly, Dman on gofigure is an Autistic Dunedinite that really shouldn't be posting on that forum!

Nope, sorry mate. You have the wrong user

hey my pleasure i would only do it if i believed it were true!!

Not only is she an amazing nutritionist shes a real person and shes been through it all before, The ups and downs and the real ruff stuff. She isnt someone whos just studied nutrition and is doing it by the book she can relate to every single person she takes on board and gets nothing but the best results.

I havent seen her in ages becuase to be honest i have not had a minute to think let alone get myself back on the track i was on before. Obvioulsy havent continued to loose weight since i last saw here but because of her knowledge i haventy gained ANY, which is great considering the stress and blah i been dealing with.

She just gives u all the tools necessary to handle every single situation and shes always on the other end of the email or phone if u have a mini breakdown over something or just need reassurance ur doing ok!!

I cant wait to get back to jax which should be in a month or so and shes going to get me in tip top shape before i make the shift to the lovely coldness of London!!

Hey jax likes London, I'll send her over! shes gettin too big for her boots here!

YAY yes do hehe, she can be my travelling nutritionist and take over london too!!

If this is indeed Rachel, which I doubt. I am very sorry for not coming to see you for so long and for undoing all your good work. I looked good on my wedding day.

I shall make an appointment for next week.

hehehe i dont think its rachel redbeast but i could be wrong!!

I think everyone has a blow out now and then, but its getting back on the horse that makes you better than the rest!!

You looked amazing on your wedding day hunny and im sure u still do xx

Oh well if it's Tim, I am sorry for my mother forgetting her appointment and yes I am up the duff

no it's not Rachel, but good idea.. while we are on the topic and carrying abit of winter weight, lets all book in with her this week. 09 476 0011.
Its only a few weeks till spring time - arggghhhh and if we dont want to be lardy arse whales on the beach we better let Rach get those calipers out. I know I know but you'll thank her afterwards.
oh and whens the baby due??????????

October 8

I'm spending my downtime devising a cunning plan for whipping myself back into shape.. Though at the moment I am only a couple of kilos heavier than I was when I first went to Jacqui

but oh so

and true, get dialing kids you wont regret it!

How much for a consultation? i need major work on my diet but not sure how much its going to cost!!

http://www.realnutrition.co.nz/


have a wee look and then email them! I cant remember how much it costs as i joined so long ago but they are more than happy to answer questions and make u an appointment if you decided to go there, of which i recommend VERY MUCH that you do, they are the best!!

I went to a consultation today for sureslim, however after reading the comments above it is certainly making me think twice. That and it is very expensive. Any thoughts from anyone. I only have 10-15kgs to loose and finding it very hard to get motivated but REALLY want to lose it. Need help

Do body for life. www.bodyforlife.com

You should be able to pick the book up from trademe for cheap. Also, a local gym may do a programme with BFL that you could join for motivation.

Alternatively, go to the nutritionist mentioned above and start doing some exercise. Ask on here for exercise tips.

Basically, the only way you're going to get the fat off and keep it off is to create a calorie deficit through a healthy diet and exercise.

There are quite a few people on here who have a very good idea what they're doing and if you do a bit of reading yourself, you'll find their opinions are pretty similar to popular fitness opinions at the moment.

Oh and if you find it all too confusing -there's a ridiculous amount of info, some of it conflicting- just stick to one plan like body for life and ignore everything else (i.e. ignore snippets in magazines).

Once you've got a bit of experience and understanding you can start experimenting with different exercise routines and such.

I know of a gym who will take you through body for life programs (I used to be an instructor for them), if you are on the shore

Alternatively you can call the above nutritionists, seeing as most of us can guarantee they are good

if u wanna flick me a tenner and pay for postage you can have my old body for life book, hardly used cause i discovered i already knew more than the book YAY for uni, was going to chuck it on trade me anyway!

Im more than happy to answer any questions, i feel i know prob more than the average with regards to females and fat loss and weight training and nutrition!



but yes the age old WAY is always the best, eat less than your burning and EXERCISE

well said Honey.
The BFL is ok in theory ie good points are that they advocate protein and regular meals and quality food, but ridiculously expensive, you really don't need all those supplements....and not personalised at all, so again not teaching you anything really to do with your needs, just another 12 week fad to hop on and off.
2 appointments with Real Nutrition would clarify it hugely.

I did sureslim - from October 2005 until mid 2006 - I lost 23kgs in about 3-4 months - I went to the gym also a few times a week.

I had a weigh in once a week & they kept a complete record of how I was tracking. Once a month I was measured & this also was recorded. I lost over 40cms over my whole body I think.

The food was all good -

brekkie: 190gms low fat yoghurt, 100gms fruit, & seed selection. (other options including eggs/ cheese/ veges etc)

lunch: several choices but included a protein portion of between 75-120gms + veges + 5 cruskits or 2 slices of burgen soy & linseed bread.

dinner: protein portion (usually a chicken breast or tuna or small piece of steak - veges) - after dinner I would have another piece of fruit.

The blood test I had done showed a whole range of things, can't remember all of it but they determine your food plan based on the results (some people may or not be allowed red meat for X amount of time etc).

Also drank atleast 2litres of water a day.

You are meant to have a repeat blood test 3 months later to ascertain if your plan should be changed.
If you step up your exercise you are allowed larger portion sizes - they also have different plans for different lifestyles.

You get given different options for meals on this chart thing and you can pick & match up what you want.

At no time did I feel misinformed, uninformed or like I was damaging my health. I also felt like I got what I paid for - the $900 included all my consultations, blood tests etc.

Sadly I stopped doing it properly when I started partying a lot - I maintained my weight & lost a bit more during this time. In the last 6 months I've started to put weight back on so I'll be going back to my sure slim (I'm not going to bother signing up again because I already have a fair idea of what is healthy & what is not - I'll also modify my diet to meet my own needs)

Sureslim ruined my life. It was far too restrictive, I am no longer on the programme, but have developed a servere eating disorder that has lasted a long time now, even though i follow no meal plan, i still feel guilty if I eat sooner than 5 hours, or if I eat more than 3 meals a day.
this diet has really made it hard to remember what normal eating is. i wish I never got involved. it really has ruined my life.
I cant remember why people choose food now, all I have in my mind is the restrictive rules of SS and if I break them the guilts set in.

I wish i had seen this before I signed up.. The reason I chose Sure slim was because I am a picky eater and you can tell them what you dont want to eat. However I have just recently changed from being a vegeterian so I cant really stomach having meat 2 times a day all week. I told the consultant that and she said ok. Then when I got my plan I have 2 meat meals everyday all week. It really p***ed me iff because I had already paid for it!
Due to this I am struggling to actually stick to the plan but I am officially stuck for a year.


Tottally sux

Sure slim SAVED my life!! I'm so glad I did the program - now I don't have to think about how hungry I am and thinking about food all day long!
I have 3 meals a day which is healthy for us and they keep me really full. It has allowed me to get on with my job and focus much more easily than concentrating on what can I eat now!

My weight loss coach is excellent and explained to me that our bodies aren't designed to be eating all day long, our ancestors for thousands of years hunted and gathered their food, and maybe got 1 or 2 meals a day if we were lucky. Our version of hunting/gathering is going to the fridge, cupboard or worse yet bakery or drive through! No wonder we are an obese nation - our bodies have been designed for the lifestyle we had for thousands of years - not the last 100!

I crack up when people say 'normal food' what's normal? Pies, cakes and heavily refined products like white bread and sugary cereal? I love my SureSlim plan, it gives me the right amount of all the food groups I need to stay full all day long - it has really been such a blessing. I have had such good results that a close friend of mine has now joined and is also losing on average 1kg a week. I'd say this is a pretty safe amount to lose I wouldn't want to lose more than that. I guess some coaches are just better than others?

I can't really understand why people wouldn't have success on the program? I talk to other ladies in the waiting area at the clinic I go to and they all rave about how much they've lost and how it makes so much sense! I guess as humans we're naturally pretty lazy - and that's our problem in the first place, we just expect to stuff our faces with whatever and that it wont store as fat! Crazy when a lot of us have office jobs and the most excersise we get is walking to the car and back. Well I got a very big wake up call when looking in the mirror in bikini I used to fit several years ago! I now do Vibra-train as well as sureslim and I've never felt or looked better! My skin has cleared up, my legs and arms are toned instead of flabby and I have just started playing hockey again for the first time in 15 years - something I would have never attempted before.

Unfortunately there are no magic pills to make us fit and healthy - it does take hard work but it's really worth it in the end! I can't rave about sureslim enough.

Oh and daney - did your consultant explain to you how to read your plan? Just that I also have 2 meat meals a day but it's optional - I can chose eggs or cheese etc as my protein. I often use the mountain bread and the philly in a wrap at lunch time when I don't feel like meat - delicious!! And I try and have fish at least 2 or 3 times a week.