Teachers. On stike. And stuff.

Assuming someone actually reads the current affairs sction, what do you guys think about the secondary teachers' strikes?

A lot of people have been trolling out the usual arguments in defense of, or against striking in general, and also about the teaching profession.

You know, the usual about teachers being overworked, having to do more work for the NCEA, not having enough non-contact time, and having pay rises less than inflation. On the other side the suaul arguments of "man, they get 12 weeks holiday a year!" and that they work only 8am till 3:30.

Regardless of the accuracy of these claims, I always find it ridiculous that while in opposition a political party blames the current govt. for all the strike action, and says they will resolve it when they get in (as Labour and Alliance did during the last teacher strikes), and suddenly when they get in they actually realise they have a "budget" and they can't spend infinite amounts of money appeasing every group in the public sector.

It seems this strategy relies on the public being stupid, and forgetting all the bullsh*t they spoke prior to the election. It really annoys me.

Both parties are guilty of it, National getting on their high horse about electricity prices (whether or not it was due to the reforms, which I personally doubt) is another classic. Gezz.

Damn, and excuse the topic typo. *laughs*

heh gotta love the days off we been getting lately it rocks big time!

couldn't they choose another time, not directly before bursary??? it's like they don't care if i fail *Stresses*

Yeah, I agree - but I imagine they chose this time exactly for this reason, as it gives them more bargaining power with the government. I guess they at least are only striking for 3rd and 4th formers now, right?

i don't really pay much attn, my school has class and gets us all relievers *etc*

i'm at school at the moment *mmm study mmm* what are they gonna do if they catch us of the net anyway? kick us off? psh, we only got one week left anyhow! *smiles*

voiceinsideyou - relax

teachers they do what ? i went to teachers college last week it looked more like a modeling school good to perve at but most of them dont no shit hahah

Hey, I'm relaxed. *laughs* I just like to debate for no apparent reason. Stimulates the brain and suchforth. Admittedly, I'm gonna give myself a bad(/worse) rep on here if I keep it up.

Note to self: Talk about stuff that is fun more often. *grin*

i'm too laid back to debate properly, ahhhhh well more people like me and the world would be ahappy family. But then again, i've never really seen a truely happy family.

feisty is good.. you should really work on some boppers... whoa those boppers need to relax!

oh annnnd i'd be a teacher, but they dont get paid enough... it'd be a good brain going to waste

I don't think more laid back people would make a happy family necessarily. Probably just make too many apathetic people and things wouldn't get done, and people might get annoyed that nothing got done after a while, and become not laid back.

Okay, so maybe a weeee bit of false extrapolation there... *smile*

you just love to debate against the flow don't ya?

but that power of the smiley face makes it all better!

sheez don't over analyse *okay* thanks... cause it really is annoying! don't you ever give your brain a rest... do you ever dream? orr are you always a realist??? not that that's bad... i'm just saying maybe you should try and view things from the other side

so maybe instead of always criticisng... you should actually think of something yourself!

yeah it's like that english quote goes... 'nothing changes instantaneously: in a gradually heating bathtub you'd be boiled to death before you knew it.' *woop, now i'm goign against myself*

that only shows an open-mind aims, and an open-mind is a proud mind *yeah*

Heyy, I wasn't criticising in other threads, I was supporting. I think you misinterpret me, I'm debating inm here because that's kinda what the Current Affairs forum is about, right? If my debate isn't welcome, I'll go somewhere else, Aims.

I think you misinterpret me debating in here as being what I do with my entire life, which is totally not true. I don't think it's fair that you acuse me of not being open-minded. As I said in the other thread I often debate both sides of arguments in order to understand everyone better.

Give me a break, I haven't done anything wrong - stop launching an attack on me. Be careful about making big judgements about someone's character and then judging them on it based on reading a few threads in a web forum. Now that would seem to be close-minded.

wasn't that an attack on me? i think so *exactly*

*moves on* why? cause i can!

i'm sorry if i offended you... but i think we all need to keep to the topic if we're gonna post in the current affairs forum, cause this is just getting nasty.

tankies

Nah, that wasn't an attack, that was just me defending myself. *grin* Oh, you don't want to see me on attack.

No hard feelings.

No hard feelings

yeah i would like to see you attack, as long as you're on my side *te he*

Hehehe, sure thing. *grins*

Seriously, I'm not the grouchy bastard I appear to be on here. You should see me go insane on the dance floor. *laughs*

you should see me, i'm permanently insane...

WTF??
umm hi- did i interupt something?

Haha, no, I assure you you did not interrupt anything. *cough*

well yeah, but you know, since voiceinsideyou has these little debates going everywhere... it's really hard not to! *smiles dearingly at voiceinsideyou*

Oh aims, I hope that was a compliment. *sweet grin*

dear lord

LOL

would i ever not compliment you voiceinsideyou? sheez, i dont like ebing on the oposing team *yeah*

well back to the topic... my teachers striekd today, that's okay though... cause we sat in english staring at the wall for a whole period... *damn only teacher that belongs to the union* but then the teachers striekd and half of my form went home... the classes were reduced to 7-8 peeps *damn classy*

wtf... *tired* i mean the students 'striked' and whole form classes went home, and went out on the piss *absoloute class... considering bursary is in 12 days*

Haha, how exciting for you. I'm entirely ambivalent now. *smile*

meh
the strikes didnt really phase me to be honest, i found that it made us work a little harder when we went back to class (to catch up, keep on schedule)

*yawns* ok time to pay full attention to removing the timelimit on my mixmeister pro w00p!

That can't be too hard.

eh, no matter if the teacher's there or not the girls in english still talk about brazilian waxing *girls, girls, girls*

Bit late to jopin this one... but the current teachers strike is kinda funny.

It's one of the only strikes I've ever seen where the strikers won't admit to exactly what they are striking about...

In this case the PPTA (Secondary Teachers) are striking because they are pissed that the NZEI (Primary Teachers) got pay parity with them not so long ago.
The PPTA think themselves far superior to the NZEI... and as such we have a strike going on with a smokescreen in place.

It will be interesting to see how it pans out...

mmmm can i cook pancakes in that pan? *thanks*

LOL mmm i could sure go some pancakes....

voiceinsideyou: not as easy as it sounds ): do you have a (working) 'fix' for it? v.1.1
the one i got is extremely useless heh

teacher strikes are awesome, so yea we got exams at the same time but whooo caaaares.

*chants* NO MORE ENGLISH FOR EVER... hehe i quoted my english teacher in my exam.... that woman is soooo classy...
irrelevant sorta, but he it's about teachers!