Supplements

So aside from protein does anyone take any other supplements?

- a good multi-vitamin is key
- ZMA at night time
- glutamine post-workout
- sometimes use creatine


BCAAs are important, but you should be getting those from your protein powder. Might be best to check.

Most supplements are fairly useless. Creatine seems to be the one that makes the biggest impact though, so if you're thinking of bulking, do a proper course of creatine. That means loading properly (avoid alcohol and such during this phase) and taking an amount appropriate to your body mass.

-Protein
-Glucosomine I think... Don't have the bottle on me...
-Considering a multi-vitamin and maybe creatine next year when I increase my training load in prep for worlds (hopefully)

I'm using creatine and also taking an Omega 3-6-9 suppliment right now, probably need to be taking a multi as well though.

- Glucosamine is a GODSEND if you are doing any sort of high impact activity, be it road running or contact sport. I still praise Toasted for turning me onto this. It turns knee agony into slightly dull knee ache over time.

Oh yeah, I take glucosamine and fish oil as well

There's probably not a lot more worth doing, Jono. If you find yourself plateauing or needing an edge, maybe dabble with a pre-workout supp or something. Sometimes I just stop taking everything except the multi for a little while...

I take concrete pills.

Well we all know YOU need to harden the fuck up... Maybe this Jono boy might too...

Call ML!

Come play a real sport... Like ice hockey... we'll sort ya out young man. No supplements required.

Atm, I will be feeling lucky to get up in the morning and put my clothes on without any pain. It's been like this since Christmas. Fun!

Hahaha, oh man, ditto...

Eccentric chin up training at the moment... It hurts

But I'm hard so I can take it

you got big guns midnight?

I wish I had that type of pain ML.

I got injured and noone knows whats wrong. My shoulder/neck. Horrible injury. I don't even know how I did it. My dad is a specialist and while here injected me with stuff, which helped a little bit, but I'm about at 20% atm. lol

Some supplements are all good, but they don't make you big & strong on their own. Eating enough & eating right is what makes you big, and food can do that without supplements.

Technically you're entirely correct that "eating enough" makes you big... I think they want to be muscular as well :>

Codpeice - put your little waterpistols away, I'll show you some real guns when I see you... Then you can go back to your water pistols

Roman - Awww, I know that feeling :S After all the time I've spent on crutches and in pain for the last couple of years no one can tell me what exactly it is fucking up my knee. It seems to be alright though. In this case I think there was too much ice though...

You need to see my dad. He had a solution for bung anything. Solution that works. If he was here for few more weeks, I'd be completely fixed. Thats why I might be going over there and spend some time in his rehab clinic.

If you like, you can look at prolotherapy. Amazing stuff.

When you see me? when might that be?

I've had an injury for a fucking year. IT band and knee issues. Today was walking along, sharp pain kinda behind the knee, kindof felt like it was being twisted. FUCK!

A lot of supplements (excluding whey and creatine) are expensive and often a waste of money. People wanting to add muscle mass would be better off taking that money and spending it on eggs to eat for breakfast and cottage cheese & peanut butter to eat before bed.

I agree entirely.

We keep reinventing the wheel

Did Rocky need supplements? No fucking way.

I remember hearing of a study that found supplements have little to no effect, other than as a placebo.

Has anyone heard of this, or was this just referring to 'natural' supplements?

A lot of them are gimmicks. There's a hugely profitable industry, fueled by magazines such as Mens Health, of fake products that either rehash existing products & supplements, or throw in a "secret new ingredient" which does next to nothing, eg nitrous/nitric oxide or arginine. They're always supported by ridiculous claims of strength increase and muscle growth, with some juiced-up bodybuilder on the advert. It's a male equivalent of a lot of the female beauty industry, with beautiful supermodels, fake science and fictitious words.

The reason the industry exists is because there are a lot of people who'd rather throw money at some flavour-of-the-month product because it's less effort, than follow basic proven weight-lifting programs stringently & regularly, harden the fuck up and push themselves in the gym, and fix their diet.

Lol nice answer...

You mention existing supplements, what about those? Actually I watch Penn and Teller : Bullshit so I'm very skeptical of the claims made on 'lifestyle pills' and it feels so fucking good to run - popping a pill doesnt' give you that sense of achievement!