Some sports questions i have

And check the diagram! I spent a good 5 minutes making that for your benefit Yak!

... what?

A penalty for what? Are you talking about the 40?

hahaha it's very pretty. I don't think it gives a very decent idea of the scale though 10 metres is quite a long way. And what's the time from kick off to the time it would reach the sideline from a good hard low kick? Like less than 2 seconds or something right...

Sorry yes the 40. I got confused about what you meant there.

There's no way the defenders would not see the ball heading into that area and not move to cut it off. The spread is designed to move and cover each gap as needs be.

Mate. You're dreaming.

Come to a game and you'd get a better idea of what it looks like.

What's the obvious downside though, given that they always seem to prefer loopy straight-ish ones?

okay.. I'll try get out there this season

tl;dr

Scrums in Rugby do very little as well, they have as many tight heads as they do in league, yet they spend more time setting there scrum up

Thanks Nacoa!

^_^

gc.

/cant remmeber the last time a sports thread got to over 100 posts/page 2 ....inside 2 hours

Most threads I post in at least a few times get over 100 posts in that time

ha I was just about to post something about you (and snowys) presence




Actually now I have read the thread....this isnt right. If this is the case why so much emphasis in talking about "good scrummagers" when selecting/critiqueing thugby props? If your scrum is dominate, while you may not be able to use to to wheel the opposition back large distances, its still a massive advantage via go-forward/momentum and getting penalties


I also disagree that the srums in league are "contested" ....looks to me like most the guys just duck their heads down and wait for someone to yell BREAK. and tightheads only occur when the halfback has a mare at putting the ball in

I also agree the scrums are ultimately dumb and pointless, but I dont have a better idea

I have a better idea. Scrap the scrums and reduce the number of players on the field.

Easy.

Stick to golf Masty!



gc.

why? The games (or league at least) are not broken

Why doesnt football reduce to 9 men, scrap the offside law and widen the goals by 2 metres? At least that would be fixing something

= less tedious 0-0 draws

supermuff. Ok I could be wrong re the non contesting, tbh I barely bother to watch the scrums, they are boring, and over so fast I cant imagine the amount of contesting is significant enough to truly call them a contest

Don't they stop pushing in scrums in Rugby if one team is too dominant??

Kinda defeats the purpose as well don't ya think?

The halfback in the opposition still creates pressure on the halfback passing the ball away from the scrum... just like rugby, no difference, one just packs tighter together...

sounds like indoor... which is fun as to play

Because it would achieve the same results as a scrum does, and would encourage a faster, more exciting game.

And i dont know why they dont, to be honest i think some rules in football need addressing as well. Maybe not the rules you mentioned or to that extent, but you do have a point.

Ok....(nacoa) but when do you EVER see a league scrum push around its opposition? When was the last time you even saw a tighthead? The simple fact that the answer to both questions is "just about never", means that the notion that they qualify as a contest is pretty dubious really

Because of tradition and a desire to stay pure as a sport. There are rules for each sport which keep it unique from others. The more of those rules that you remove from the games, the more similar they become to each other.

If you want less players, they have different formats. There already is Rugby 7s, Rugby League 9s, and T20 cricket for the heathens.



gc.

No they stop pushing if one team runs out of front rowers due to injuries, while injuries to front rowers can be caused by scrum dominance it more likely to be from another area of the game. It's a rare occurance for one teams front row stocks to be decimated by the superiority of the opposition scrum. Last time I can remember was Aussie at Twickenham in about 2005, when England brutalised the Aussie scrum. But that Australian front row was possibly the worst any top rugby nation has every had. Not much better now but Dean's has taught them to go early so the other team can't get a clean hit to make up for their lack of ability.

*Deans

OH GOD GIVE ME MORE EXCITEMENT PLEASE

Yeah.. wonder if there is a reason which goes beyond practical size (relative to field of play etc)?.

Some which aren't though..

Tennis (doubles) - 2
Rowing - 2, 4 (but not the '8', which is really 9 when you include the cox)
Volleyball (indoor) - 6
Australian rules football - 22
Golf (Ryder cup format) - 12
Polo - 4
Ice Hockey - 6
Sprinting (relays) - 4
Lacrosse - 10
Curling - 4
Formula 1 - 2 (each team must have two drivers start every race)

What about the world cup game against that minnow team? didn't they stop pushing in those scrums and turn them into golden oldies?

Top work on the breakdown = outburst, like it ^_^

Never seen a Polo game. Somewhat surprising that there are only 4 players.

Also, beach volley is evens as well. 2 Obviously.



gc.

BTW - I knew this was a load of shit.

From the couple of league games I watched over the last couple of weeks, I paid closer attention. And yes, they only stopped the clock for like 1 or 2 of the scrums per game, at important stages. MOST of the scrums, the clock never stopped for a second for the entire lead-up and execution of the scrum.

Shame, all of you.