TtheHF said:
Smiley said:
Oh I see what you mean.
Works are original in their own right (unless they are not of course) but generally something inspired the author. Most of the time having no limits stifles creativity for many rather than stimulating it. But there are no set rules of course.
In the context of this discussion though I find the "Apple didn't invent product x" very very tedious. Essentially yes they did by amalgamating a bunch of different existing technologies in a new way and focusing on the UX. That makes product X (for example, the ipod) an entirely new product regardless that there were mp3 players before it. It's one of the many grasping at straws arguments you find in these types of discussions. Their creativity and innovation is in making the product actually work and nice to use with a complete supporting environment. It's the complete attention to details. It's not marketing as the product would have quickly flopped otherwise.
Well it IS marketing otherwise I wouldn't see the mawkish attention that Apple obsessed fucksticks give to every minuscule modification of their hardware (400 extra songs on an iPod = "OHFUKMEIMGONDIE!"

, this pants-shitting excitement/trepidation that new software updates come with (more annoying than FB updates as there are many reasonable alternatives to iShit), and the cult-ish utter certainty that their product choice is correct though often they have no fucking clue.
So really your issue is with Apple fanboys. Is it really Apple's fault that these knobs go berserk over bullshit? People are stupid man, you know this as well as anyone.