Rebecca Black

Most will have seen this by now. Worst song ever? WTF is this shit.

I shall refer you to the 'tween vanity pop' thread for lols.

5 threads down bro
http://www.biggie.co.nz/discussion/tween_vanity_pop

he loves her so much he had to start another thread about her

ahhhh fail. Should have looked harder I just scrolled down the first page looking for Rebecca Black! Feel free to delete!

Nah there is enough hate to go around!

Everytime someone watches that video, she makes money. She already is putting out an album and has a record deal out of this.

Jokes on us

fuck there's some grumpy old cunts on this site

its a throw away piece of pop pap.... for youngin's... move on YOU'RE NO LONGER YOUNG deal with it

#25 on itunes chart

The lyrics are no worse than this either:


Hello, hello, baby, you called?
I can't hear a thing
I have got no service
In the club, you say? say?
Wha-wha-what did you say, huh?
You're breakin' up on me
Sorry I cannot hear you
I'm kinda busy
Kinda busy
Kinda busy
Sorry I cannot hear you I'm kinda busy

Just a second
It's my favorite song they're gonna play
And I cannot text you with a drink in my hand, eh?
You should've made some plans with me
You knew that I was free
And now you won't stop calling me
I'm kinda busy

[Pre-Chorus]
Stop callin'
Stop callin'
I don't wanna think anymore
I left my head and my heart on the dancefloor
Stop callin'
Stop callin'
I don't wanna talk anymore
I left my head and my heart on the dancefloor

[Chorus]
Stop telephonin' me
(Stop telephonin' me)
I'm busy
(I'm busy)
Stop telephonin' me
(Stop telephonin' me)
Can call all you want but there's no one home
And you're not gonna reach my telephone
Out in the club
And I'm sipping that bubb
And you're not gonna reach my telephone
Call all you want, but there's no one home
And you're not gonna reach my telephone
Out in the club
And I'm sipping that bubb
And you're not gonna reach my telephone

[Beyonce]
Boy, the way you blowing up my phone
Won't make me leave no faster
Put my coat on faster
Leave my girls no faster
I should've left my phone at home
'Cause this is a disaster
Calling like a collector
Sorry, I cannot answer

[Lady Gaga]
Not that I don't like you
I'm just at a party
And I am sick and tired of my phone r-ringing

[Beyonce]
Sometimes I feel like I live in grand central station
Tonight I'm not takin' no calls
'Cause I'll be dancin'
I'll be dancin'
I'll be dancin'
Tonight I'm not takin' no calls
'Cause I'll be dancin'

[Pre-Chorus x2]

[Chorus]

[x3]
My telephone
Ma ma ma telephone
'Cause I'm out in the club
And I'm sippin that bubb
And you're not gonna reach my telephone

(We're sorry, we're sorry
The number you have reached
Is not in service at this time
Please check the number, or try your call again)

I love this tune because of how utterly shit and vacuous it is.

"left my head and my heart on the dancefloor" is the only interesting line, because she has a continuing theme in her music about losing her head/mind/brain and/or heart.

check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWpFO2BgkvU

Who is Rebecca Black? Never heard of her. That song is arse and even my daughter was like WTF is that shit.

Exactly, QTRARO. Exactly.

That's what EVERYONE thinks though? It became famous on youtube because it's so incredibly bad, has gotten played on the radio because it's bad etc.

I'm just very glad don't work somewhere where they blare some shitty radio station all day.

It doesn't get played on the radio. I listen to NZ's cheesiest radio stations and even they mock the shit out of it.

Come on guys!



gc.

Yeah that's what I mean though... I only heard an excerpt played on b once and that was to obv take the piss out of it.

I suspect that every time it's been played on the radio anywhere in the world it's been to have a laugh at how awful it is.

It's charting higher in NZ at #33 than anywhere else in the world..

I suspected you meant that, but I can imagine Smiley muttering away to himself thinking that everyone listening to ZM is bopping along to a cheeky bit of RB.



gc.

heh okay, well this is how low my expectations are of commercial radio that caters to any demographic near RB's... I's expect it to play on The Edge and very occasionally on ZM.

Commercial jocks are in a low position to take the piss out of anyone

Five Local Songs That Might Make You Think Rebecca Black Isn’t So Bad

http://thecorner.co.nz/2011/03/23/five-local-songs-that-might-make-you-think-rebecca-black-isnt-so-bad/

haha

Not really a surprise when you see the songs that reached number 1 here but nowhere else... International stuff I mean, rather than local which is obviously going to chart higher here. Either we have terrible taste as a nation or it's much easier for record companies to buy up the required units to push something to number 1 (I think 1000 units can get you a number 1 here)... Probably both.

The Edge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZM

Polly and Grant in the morning are the most sickening pieces of shit on the radio. Grant has completely emasculated himself, they constantly talk about superstitious crap like psychics and astrology. They're vomit inducing. And then they have Flinny and Jay on in the afternoon to compete with The Edge and they're about as funny as your grandmother dying of cancer. Plus ZM pitch up their music which is both puzzling and annoying.

Admittedly the morning crew on The Edge aren't *amazing*, but their games are funnier and they're much less annoying. But Fletch & Vaughan in the afternoons are hilarious. Once you get past their nasal voices they're the funniest people I've heard on the radio anywhere.

But still, neither station has the song on rotation as far as I can ascertain. Definitely not The Edge.



gc.

That last one is awesome!

Ever listened to the radio in Aus? That's some terrible taste.



gc.

we actually have great taste as a nation... imo... however when it comes to shite its still going to float if it ticks the boxes of radio/tv/media as Ms Black does

We're a small marketplace so songs can chart here quickly and cheaply compared to the major markets that require a lot of time and effort on the setting up of a record (at radio et al)...

our marketplace and media environment is vastly different to that of Australia - for a state they have states/territories which all operate slightly differently to the other... we have a big telco lead market, they don't... we have jason gunn... the don't etc etc

But she doesn't tick these boxes, at all! *EVERYONE* THINKS IT'S SHIT!

I don't think its shit... but then my taste is often at odds with biggies

WHAT BOXES!?



gc.

I don't really see how this is any worse than any of the other big pop songs of the last 5 years. The song by Train 'Heysoul sister' does my head in. It's on every radio station other than bfm.
One thing going for Friday is that the mainstream radio stations seem to think they're too cool to play it.

Yeah I know what you mean... I'm saying it doesn't tick the boxes to make a hit single at all. It's bad in every respect, artistically and commercially.

From twitter feed today: "Rebecca Black, we don't hate you because you're famous, you're famous because we hate you."

Hate is obv a bit too strong a word but I think that tweet pretty much sums it up...

^^ in reply to bob_d obv...

Auto Tune - Tick

young female singer - tick
appeals to teens - tick
catchy chorus - tick
upbeat - tick
production standards - tick

the actual artistiic merit is not a qualifier- or have none of you ever noticed the state of pop over the past 40 years?

You're fkn mental if you think this song has the same production quality as song by Lady Gaga, Beyonce etc.

Catchy?? Untick
Appealing to teens?? Do you know ANY teenagers!? Hahaha come on dude you're dreaming.

This shit makes even the Black Eyed Peas look good. Pop over the last '40 years'? What on earth are you on about!? Tarring all pop music with the same brush is a dangerous game, and if you think this fits into even the current commercial mold, you're way off base.



gc.

EXACTLY. So for $2k they produce her song and shoot her music vid? And it has the same production values as Britney/BEP/Pitbull (notable artists that I hate)?

Get your hand of it and stop being a contrarian for its own sake.



gc.

I tend to agree with bobd. It's like the commercial audience though has finally looked in the mirror and seen a caricature of itself that went one step too far and they recognised it and now are stepping away from it as if it is any different from all the other crud they consume so so eagerly.

um, it's hella catchy

Wasn't it Charlie Sheen who tweeted that first? Lol.

I AM BOTH SHOCKED AND AMAZED!



I really think you guys are so off the mark here it's unbelievable. People/radios/music television stations haven't rejected this because they've felt some existential twinge about their musical preferences hahahahaha.

it was from some random twitterer that I don't know so possibly a retweet

really depends on whether you're the sort of person who actually 'listens' to lyrics when a song is playing. I don't really 'listen' to lyrics, I more listen to the music and the voice.....without paying attention to the actual words being sung

Let's take Rammstein. Most people on here wouldn't have a fucken clue what they're singing about - for all we know they could be singing the same lyrics as Rebecca Black's Friday song - but with an angry vibe! But lots of people still love Rammstein.........because most listeners don't actually 'listen' to the lyrics, they just like the general 'feel' of the song........

I don't mind the song - it's no worse than BEP, Bieber etc.........who I don't particularly like but then I don't dislike them perse......

Perhaps not, but I really can't hear much difference between that and just about everything else that is popular. Not that I have sat there and listened to it more than once. Just sounded like another generic poppy song but a bit more obvious.

I stand corrected. It was Charlie Sheeny http://twitter.com/#!/CharlieSheeny/status/49238337034264576

*or listened to other pop for a few years (still suffering ptsd from that one ZM job...). Had a few things thrust in my direction by simply sticking my foot out the door occasionally though. Fucking Black Eyed Peas being one example.

lol Smiley, such a hater.

Don't you ever get tried being such a contarian? It must be difficult being totally devoid of independent thought and basing all your opinions on whatever the opposite of the mainstream/majority/popular view is...

Bloody hell neil, you're generalising a bit there. As you know biggie is just a good place to push a particular position. Whether or not it fully reflects any of my real views... well... sort of... but not all the time and not usually as extreme as I put forward.

But y'know, in certain matters if you have no other intel and you need to pick a side, the opposite of what is popular usually works well :p

'Pop' haters are so fucking tiresome.

In the last 45min on The Edge there has been:
Foo Fighters
Kids of 88
Lupe Fiasco
Mumford & Sons

Modest Mouse is even their backing tune atm.

Generalise pop music at your own peril - there is *so* much good stuff around. Granted there is a lot of stuff that's harder to stomach, but NONE of it, I repeat NONE of it, is as bad as this Rebecca Black bullshit. And if you think it is, then all you're showing is that you don't listen to any pop.

Shocking news I'm sure.



gc.

#Now Playing - Supergroove - Sittin inside my head (my fav NZ tune of all time)

Current tunes up for top 20 voting on The Edge

Thirsty Merc - Tommy & Krista [Essentially an 80s folk/rock/pop ripoff, think Adams or Cougar-M]
Six60 - Rise up 2.0 [Kiwi tunage - soul/DnB vibe]
Rihanna feat. David Guetta - Who's That Chick? [dance pop - fairly gash]
Taylor Swift - Back to December [hate TS personally, but she's got a lot more substance than most tweenies]
Chris Brown - Yeah 3x [CB needs a bullet for both personal actions & this song]
Tinnie Tempah - Invincible [next big UK pop/hip hop artist, fairly big tune]
Usher - More [dance pop - personally don't like that Usher has gone in this direction but this tune is pretty deace]
Katy Perry - E.T [weird tune, slightly ripped off of Veronicas, now has 'remix' w/ Kanye, bit average but big production values]
Avril Lavigne - What the Hell [annoying but VERY catchy, way more catchy than Black, Lavigne writes for a lot of pop starlets]
Panic At The Disco - The Ballad of Mona Lisa ['Vegas rock' as they say, catchy, fairly interesting lyrically]
Ceelo - Bright Lights, Bigger City [awesome tune (if a little unoriginal), awesome artist]
Ke$ha - Blow [Ke$ha fights the tween fight in a much more interesting way than most]
Pink - Perfect [Pink's worst song in years. Manufactured nonsense]
Alexis Jordan - Happiness [Signed by Jigga & produced by Deadmau5, great voice, great production]
Rihanna - S & M [cheesy dance pop but pretty huge & catchy - plus awesome lyrics heh]
Enrique Iglesias - Tonight im loving you [original version is 'Tonight I'm FUCKING you' haha]
Jessie J - Do it Like a Dude [very poppy but on a dancehall tip, Jessie J has one of the best voices in pop right now]
Kanye West - All of the Lights [EPIC TUNE!, nuff said]
Ivy Lies - HIghway [haven't heard it, hate angsty girl rock personally]
Jessie J feat B.O.B - Price Tag [2 songs in the top 20 atm, but this one sucks a bit, fits her character though]
Diddy, Dirty, Money - Coming Home [Ok tune, sounds like a Kanye rip off]
Avalanche City - Love, Love, Love [cute acoustic Kiwi tune, current TV2 theme]
Mumford & Sons - The Cave [Mumford & Sons one of the biggest acts in the world outside the US right now, great tune, great lyrics etc]
Lady Gaga - Born this way [One of Gaga's best offerings IMO, bit manufactured lyrics-wise but again seems to fit her character]
The Early Birds - Truth [haven't heard it or don't recall it]
Ladi 6 - Like Water [Lady 6's attempt at a breakthrough, funky little number in the mould of Duffy I suppose]
Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song [shit song - probably the CLOSEST to Rebecca Black in this list. Dude still has a *cracking* voice though]
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow [southern hip hop, would've been a hit 10yrs ago probably]
Vince Harder - I Want This Forever [bad NZ take on current dance-pop fad]
Stan Walker - One Thing [Stan's talent is undeniable - not his best tune though]
The Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough [HATE the BEP, but this song isn't *as* annoying as their other recent tripe]
Jay Sean & Lil Wayne - Hit the Lights [dance-pop, very generic]
LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem [dance pop - these guys make similar stuff to BEP but usually seems a bit more electro/interesting]
Thirsty Merc - All My Life [folk/pop/rock, cheesy lyrics, not too detestable on the whole though]
Taylor Swift - Story of Us [see earlier comment on TS]
Britney Spears - Till the World Ends [Britney making an embarrassing comeback, shock horror]
JLo & Pitbull - Get on the Floor [J-Lo dance-pop, pretty shit but seems popular]
K-One feat J Williams - She's a Killer [don't know it, Kiwi tune though oibviously]
Eliza Doolittle - Mr Medicine [Lilly Allen rip off, but without the funny or offensiveness]
The Foo Fighters - Rope [new FF tune, quite good]
Lupe Fiasco - The Show Goes On [pretty dope offering from Lupe, best tune on the album unfortunately]
David Guetta feat Snoop Dogg - Sweat [haven't heard full song, see Air NZ thread for thoughts on SNoop these days]
Chris Brown-Beautiful People [better than other song, produced by Benny Benassi, still hate CB though]
Selena Gomez - Who Said? [just listened to this, has serious competition for Rebecca Black terribleness hahaha]
Far East Movement feat Snoop - If I Was You (OMG) [very weird and quite electronic tune]

and here we go... people in it for a laugh could really destroy my argument/credibility:

Rebecca Black - Friday rounds up that 40 odd tunes... Will see how it goes! Currently not in rotation thank fuck. None the less my point is that whilst, yes, there is loads of crap, there is also lots of good music amongst it.



gc.

perhaps I should have used the term tween

Pop - catchy songs that are popular... I'm not tarring any 'pop' genre, I love pop (hate pap)... which doesn't fall into any set commercial mould rather it comes from many

Black is a cheaper model of many pop stars that came before - she represents a possible new model - cheap, cheerful and very sucessful... with fewer gate keepers (quality controllers)...

I don't get the lyrics thing eh... lyrics these days are terrible, I can link you more than Lady Gaga -Telephone. The song LOL Smiley Face rings a bell...

The production values in the song are bad... but not terrible, there's far worse out there, she may be at the low end of the commercial scale but she's still on it.

If she had a decent producer she could easily be played on commercial radio.

I think if you replaced she with anyone you'd still be right. It's not like she even wrote the song but anyone can be auto tuned and get 35 million youtube hits. that's why this is so funny!

in other words commercial radio is a joke

"we so excited".

THIS is what is wrong with the world today

we so depressed

better?

I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

"Lyrics these days" - a generalisation in no way representative of the whole, not even close. See above list for reference. If 'there's far worse out there' then name some. People bring up anomalies and exceptions and claiming they're the rule. So lame.

I SAW THIS ONE MOVIE AND IT WAS SHIT SO THAT MUST MEAN ALL MOVIES ARE SHIT.



gc.

And also compared to what old artists are we talking?

Amazing lyricists like Elvis? the Beatles? 80% of pop music lyrics have been generic since the bloody 60s, it's no different now. There ARE still people out there writing music that means something to them, and there are those doing it just for the cash. Fact is, the GOOD lyricists in any genre are the minority.



gc.

Oh my God it's like a Maori version of Outkast.

Maybe if Outkast were Supergroove?

i really don't get how anyone can argue something like Ke$ha - Blow, which was the first i checked from the list above and something i've never heard before, can be better just because the $ spent on production is more. So they have the guy from Dawson's Creek in the video, omg! it's proper shit!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFWX0hWCbng

It's been mentioned already but the tween market is not for us...But from where i stand I find Blacks track just as, if not more, catchy as Blow, which uses the same template of repeat one word and use auto tune. Defend away..

That doesn't make any sense, if Outkast were Supergroove then they wouldn't be Outkast.

It's not at all like Outkast, if anything it's a maori version of Supergroove

Na, they were trying for Outkast.

Must.try.harder

haha, exactly.

I don't really have anything to say about the Rebecca Black song, bored of it now and awaiting further tween pop anthems.

I'm interested though on whether anyone can pinpoint for me the moment when so much commercial pop/rnb turned into electro-housish dance beats with auto tune vocals, and usually some sort of guest rap? Having been blissfully ignorant of pop music for a couple of years and then recently forced into listening to large amounts of commercial radio this sort of stuff seems to be everywhere now. Is there any way I can blame it on Axwell and Steve Angello? Is t-pain partially responsible?

I think the liked of Neyo and Rihanna are more responsible the T-Pain.

T-Pain is responsible however, for the word Crunk. WHich isn't a bad thing.

David Guetta is almost entirely responsible.



gc.

No doubting Ke$ha has shite lyrics, they've contrived and poppy - but they're not *incessantly mundane* like RB. I don't like Blow, but it's not even in the same league as Friday. If Friday were 'just the norm' or 'like every other pop artist' like some are suggesting, then why the hell has it inspired so much vitriol, hatred and news? It's certainly not because people like it. Fact is we live in an age of electronic music where the lyrics aren't as necessary for someone to get into a tune - but when you make a song that has lyrics as the focus, and they're about as simple, unpoetic, mundane and annoying as the English language can be, you're going to get hate.

There's not a single redeeming feature about that song, even in the cheesiest pop context.



gc.

(9:53:55 PM) xxxxx: is it wrong that i think she looks slightly hot in the one photo i've seen?
(9:54:01 PM) Kris B: uhh
(9:54:02 PM) Kris B: yeah
(9:54:05 PM) Kris B: it's wrong
(9:54:08 PM) Kris B: since she's 13
(9:54:17 PM) xxxxx: oh dear jesus
(9:54:21 PM) xxxxx: :O
(9:54:32 PM) xxxxx: wel ljsut forget i said that then

That's fucking awesome.

This is the best thing I've seen on the Internet for ages.

Just highlights what I said though and how rare (and bad) shit like this is.

J-Geek is more like Fast Crew than Supergroove or Outkast. Also J-Geek has released his second single, both vids/songs doing well virally, and at least these lads aren't taking themselves seriously. Heard an interview with him on the radio and they're just having a bit of fun with their tunes. Second song is basically about cumming.



gc.

fuck yes - can't believe how some of that shit passed me by - it's priceless

That Pure chick used to go out raving all the time. Someone on here must know her!



gc.

I like the band with the cross eyed guy. Now there's an under utilised look in pop music. :>

Why do boy bands always have a tall ugly one and a gay looking one? Its like in every 5 guys in the world theres a tall ape man and a feminine looking man.

heh, the Maori boy song is lol.

and some of the other, nowhere near as bad as rebecca black... methinks there is a bit of cultural cringe going on...

Only the first one is as bad as Rebecca Black

yeah, first one is terrible..

cultural cringe... really? Cultural cringe is where we denigrate a good to great song because of its origin... or did I miss a meeting?

Nah rebecca black is worse than all of those. But the second track by 'Purr' um made me feel weird. that dude with the egyptian head movement thingo....??

heh feel kinda bad about laughing at this but that first band's promotional video is pretty fkn hilarious:



Just so delusional :/

Come on we have to take that in context though - when bands like Backstreet, Take That and Westlife were at the top of the boy band game they weren't really that much less tragic than these boys! Don't get me wrong I love me some old school boy band sing-along tunes and those bigger artists made a lot better stuff, but we're talking about the poor man's version down here...



gc.

So what ended up happening to En Masse - I don't even remember them from back in the day.

Finger bang baby...

It's like something out of a Christopher Guest movie.

Jesus Christ that was awful. Would you break my heart agaaaain?

not this bob

WOW - you are doing a lot of defending of the Edge lol - I like listening to ZM and yet you don't see me jumping up and down at your comment about them being vomit inducing lol

Where's that from... stupid article.

Oh, thanks for telling me not to take it seriously, not to confuse it with artistry, that she's not a star, that she won't be famous, and that real music requires talent.

Enlightening stuff.



gc.

I think he makes some valid and interesting points...

but hey I find this fascinating you just see it as a shit song I guess

Oh I do find it fascinating. I love pop culture (obviously), but think the message is very confused here. This song has been noticed *because* it was bad... unbearable. It was passed around and became a huge viral success because of it's supreme cringe factor (which again, says a lot about it in the current musical climate). As I've said a few times in this thread, if you think this compares to 99% of the music on the radio these days, it just shows you don't actually listen to it.



gc.

WTF are you on about? Jump up and down all you like?

What you quoted there was not actually about the Edge at all - it was a brief bit about the tunes because it's painfully obvious that most of the people commenting on pop music don't actually listen to any. My hatred of ZM isn't about the music (although it annoys me that they speed it all up), it's about their DJs. In particular the nauseatingly lame Polly and Grant, and their attempt at having 'funny' guys on in the arvo up against Fletch & Vaughan. Jay and Flynny are about as funny as Rebecca Black is a good singer.



gc.

my interest surpasses that of the song itself - I really couldn't care less for how it sounds, what she looks like or what radio station plays it

radio is a side issue (refer to gatekeepers) and one that is increasingly irrelevant when it comes to popular culture, I barely listen to the radio, fuck that... same reason I hardly ever watch TV - fucked if I'm going to sit and let some marketing lead focus groups dictate what and when I'll see and hear anything, that shhit is so last century - I've a apple music playing device, I have the internet, I have choices and exercise them

I think there is far more to this than a bunch of post 25 year olds opinions on the music (and singer) itself... their opinions are not important unless they have something intelligent to say - just repeating the song is shit is not intelligent.... its tired, worn out and redundant (though can be amusing)

Thats your opinion.... personally I don't like listening to the Edge at all, not my cup of tea. You state it like its fact when quite frankly it is just your opinion.