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I just heard a story, im pretty sure its bs but you never know, thought someone round here may know something

The last record company to have a vinyl press in NZ sank it in the cook straight once they stopped pressing......so no one else would get hold of it.

any truth in it?

Ive heard something similar myself, but Im pretty sure its bollocks.

nope its correct

EMI owned and ran the vinyl pressing plants you're talking about and they were dumped out at sea

nutbars would suggest this was so that no one else could buy/use them, which isn't too far fetched I'd suggest as getting the public to move to CD was a slow process as they were fucking expensive and the hardware more so here intitially

I thought it was Universal and the Waikato?

But yeah - regardless - the machines were dumped.

It also meant that NZ was an early adopter for the whole CD DJ market - which in some ways, may have been a push for the whole Serato thing as well..

nah not universal and no fool would attempt that in the mighty waikato...

doubt it has any bearing on the CDJ take up here, we're talking around 1988 for the vinyl press and 2006/7 for the influx of tards with a few downloaded tunes burnt on CD and jesus poses perfected

seriously; the CDJ thang is possibly more a reflection on the demise of physical record retailers (vinyl isn't a cheap medium either) and our kiwiness - we like to embrace new things

Only in so much as the majority of DJs who played out were in pubs etc. - not the people playing more underground stuff which made the dance scene. The move to CDs was really more stemmed by the advent of CD burners and being able to get tunes online rather than the advent of CDJs imo. Reliable DJ CD players have been around since the mid 90s.

I played a few CDs (on one of those early Denon players - a single one) at Redzone/De Bretts in 1996 and remember a couple of the other DJs being shocked at my 'cheating' ha ha. I only played them because I couldn't get the vinyl. But it took a fair few more years for the idea to become even remotely accepted amongst non-mainstream house/tech DJs.. and even longer for DnB guys etc.

(Page 3 is still hanging in there tho)

Wow! I imagine somebody is kicking themselves now over the dumping. (anyone got their padi licence?)
I remember when they started pushing cd's(the record co's) in the 80's. The first I think was Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits. They used the catch phrase
"You can eat a fried egg off them!!"

no one is kicking themselves at that decision... major companies follow orders not make decisions themselves

allegedly NZ produced some of the highest quality vinyl in the world... but pressed the shittiest records (thin fucking shitty bloody things they were in the end, more fan than anything)

I can't remember the year I brought my first CD (was the year they kicked off here) but it was 5 years later before I or anyone I knew had a CD player....

I remember listening to the radio with the aforementioned Dire Straits cd, I think it was 91fm?
whatever station had the Rick Dee's top 40.
They were hyping it up big time and when they finally played it, the cd kept skipping!!!

Rick Dees Top 40

I knew you would have the answer. Probly a nice home for a few cod now i imagine.

I know, but it was all we had as kids. I even used to sit there with the record button on my tapedeck on pause waiting for my favouite songs to make mixtapes.
Go the TDK's!

Bahaha, I used to do exactly the same thing! Only not to Ricky. The pre-internets version of musical piracy eh?

and p2p back then was swapping tapes with like minded oddities around the globe...

me, I swapped live tapes of nz bands for experimental european stuff and punk rock... good times

This is exactly how many types of music especially metal and punk managed to become popular.
I suppose you could say the same for early rave too.

Bob, were you one of the guys standing next to me at Crawlspace and Corner Records buying UK Subs and Exploited 7"s and 12"s?

nope, I virtually never brought anything from crawlspace

though I do a good line in standing around

Ah, so Im picking new wave punk then Bob?

oh no I'm old skool punk... but not a Aucklander so my punk buying days were done in a more southerly town

by the time i got to Auckland I was buying gay disco

bought my first Bad Religion vinyl in a Berlin record store in 1987...and now they are coming to play in NZ later this year with NOFX....didn't even know anyone knew them around these parts...

Their latest album is really good. Brooks Wackerman on drums
Older NOFX was okish "Stickin in my eye" etc..
but Fat Mike just ballsed everything up as of late, especially the whole Propaghandi thing.
I really need to learn how to quote more than once in the same post.

where exactly between said southerly town and the Bombay Hills did you have your coming out, swapping two-chord riffs with strings, offbeat hi-hats and sparkly bootsy collins shades?

when a punk I was also a synth duo fan amongst other things... always had a huge interest in electronic & experimental music... so the descent into gay disco was always going to happen I guess

I believe very strongly that the attitude of punk tanslates into the feeling of house... which may excplain why I fucking hate 'dress up' clubs

its a fucking music venue not hallensteins changing rooms

Well Ska evolved out of punk which gave us the off beat hi hat thing, and the diy ethic of punk is totally on par with the early rave/hardcore scene.

the second wave of ska.... ie the english styles based on that which came from Jamaica in the late 50's

a reflection on UK immigration policies and mixed neighbourhoods, perhaps

blah blah blah

DiY rules

Totally dude, "sampling"... nuff said.

hmmm....I think the whole Fashion & Exprashion thing is found in punk as well as in house and many other music scenes. (for a laugh, check out this documentary on house ~1990 hehehe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z5MFylEStc )...but I know what you mean with friggin wanker dress codes and all....

all for people being able to express themselves via dress... but our club owners want sheep who dress like they have money

sophisticated is being confident enough to allow your punters to be themselves

Surely its more about attracting a particular subset of people. If you took a bunch of DnB heads and put them in their natural state at a house gig you might scare away the house bunnies

NZ never had a dubplate culture.

Really.

once upon a time that wouldn't have been the case

I thought dress codes were there to keep the bogans away?

bogans wear a disguise to look like human guys...

best clubs in the world don't have retarded dress codes... only the small minded do (often reflected in music policy and marketing wankspeak)

Ha ha I dressed up one of my bogan mates and took him to Derrick Carter (years ago at the Ministry, best gig Ive ever been to ever ever ever!!)
This dude is a serious bogan (I love extreme metal)
but this guy takes it to a whole new level.
I lost him halfway through the night (I was dancing like a bastard!) and finally found him, he had taken his shirt off and was mincing...MINCING!!! ...and there were no drugs involved!! Proof of Mr Carters awesomness!

the one thing that I've always noticed at the few London hard house parties I went to was the absolute lack of dress codes...was just like you'd see at the local student pub except that a few hrs in there was a lot of tops off and sweaty bras and all that....