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SHIRT Very Happy Got mine in the post a few days ago

Morning folks......GRIIIND AWWWN
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lame double post
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I'm so over this this...I took my last $40 or so to the 25c/50c tables this morning...three bet AA from the big blind, lead a King high flop for 3/4 pot, original raiser/caller min-raises me, I shove, he snap calls with KQos...Turn...KING Neutral

Over it! Full Tilt has been uninstalled...online poker can suck my fucking dick
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See you at the tables soon Insanity! Very Happy
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also: awesome bad-beat in HU SnG yesterday:

I'm in BB with 2-5os and button limps and I check and it comes 3-4-6 lol.

So I check-raise the flop and he 4-bets me so I ship it and he calls with K-K Very Happy

Turn: K

River: 3

:>

FURTHERMORE, saw J-J vs K-K aipf hand on the w/end.

FLOP: K-x-x

Turn: J

River: J

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Very Happy
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gummi_bear said:
See you at the tables soon Insanity! Very Happy


haha...hopefully not! Need a break...might just put some monies aside to cover a decent night at Crown once a month or so
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Full Tilt Poker Game #23504862071: Table Nettie (heads up) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 07:10:00 ET - 2010/08/31
Seat 1: joshaucks ($28.85)
Seat 2: shortychamp1989 ($11.70)
joshaucks posts the small blind of $0.25
shortychamp1989 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joshaucks [As Ks]
joshaucks raises to $1.50
shortychamp1989 calls $1
*** FLOP *** [2s 3c Kc]
shortychamp1989 bets $10.20, and is all in
joshaucks calls $10.20
shortychamp1989 shows [7s Qd]
joshaucks shows [As Ks]
*** TURN *** [2s 3c Kc] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [2s 3c Kc 3s] [4h]
shortychamp1989 shows a pair of Threes
joshaucks shows two pair, Kings and Threes
joshaucks wins the pot ($22.90) with two pair, Kings and Threes

ahahahaha
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wtf Laughing
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This is by the same guy - awesome one too heh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyk0drjyy8
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Ordered two more books from Borders Online Smile

Pot-Limit Omaha Poker: The Big Play Strategy - Jeff Hwang
Advanced Pot-Limit Omaha: Small Ball And Short-Handed Play - Jeff Hwang

I am going to get good at this game :>
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Best to read at least the 1st page of the 2+2 thread before watching the vid...which is genius. SO well done

"What the bloody f*ck I uttered!" Laughing

Trying out HEM this week .....hard work. Need HEM for dummies Sad
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How's HEM been going for ya?

Got owned a couple times in a row now at Crown Sad Been playing a bit recently. Few nights ago had my first losing session ever, but mostly due to a bit KK < AA aipf near the end which sucked.

People have gotten so much better than last year when I played here though. Lot of real tricky hard to exploit people. Felt so owned after one pot yesterday.

2/3 blinds
Two limpers, CO limps, I raise to $22 from the button with A8s, folds to CO who 3bets to $45. Roughly equal stacks at about $250.

I've been isolating quite a bit in position, and this guy hasn't busted out such a small 3-bet before so I'm not entirely sure what it means, but given he's limped behind two others in the CO and then practically begged me to call preflop with the small OOP 3-bet, I'm not really putting him on a very big hand, and actually thinking about 4-betting, but it's going to be way too FML if he shoves, so decide to see a flop.

Flop K 8 9 two diamonds - he check/calls $55
Turn offsuit 5 - check, I mini tank-check
River 6 diamonds - he thinks a second and leads $75

It's a pretty bizarre line. So my thinking was like this:
Flush - I don't think so, I think he check/shoves a lot of flush draws on the flop with these stack sizes. Particularly as the nut flush has an overcard, and basically every other combo has a pair or a straight draw too. So I ruled this out.
Straight - Is possible, but there's not that many 7s in his range that play like this, particularly as I could quite conceivably have a flush here, and I don't really think enough of his 7s are 3-betting like that preflop to worry about it.
Everything else - seems too unlikely that even hands as strong as sets are really leading out on this river

So I call expecting straight or bluff, and he shows QQ Neutral

So hard to win when people value bet like that :/


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(and yeah, I def think he's value-betting, not bluffing)
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HEM is going ass. I have a bunch of HH's missing tx to a busted box and also one of my main rooms is only partially supported which means I have to add results manually when means research blah so lost patience then had a tantrum over its Adjusted EV and hourly rate calculations etc so went back to grinding...which isnt going well either. This post is a giant fml tbh
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<3 this fella so much after watching last couple of WSOP episodes Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Tough hand, Yak...pretty weird way to play QQ, limp then more or less min-3Bet...gutting when you look back and realise you probably could have taken the hand if you'd be the Turn repping the King, eh?
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gummi_bear said:
<3 this fella so much after watching last couple of WSOP episodes Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


VUN SEVEN!!!! VUN SEVEN!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.....

hahahahahah he's so gold.

Fuck felt so sorry for those two guys in the KK > QQ > AQ hand though. LOL at shoving AQ there my god. His eyes just lit up Laughing
Then BOOM 1 outer. BOOM runner runner nuts Razz

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FUCKING GEETIN PWNED FML AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I hate poker
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hehe.. I got your $ in 10-15 business days btw Maestro, as soon as I got internet at home again.
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My mum is playing real money SNGs on Full Tilt now :> hahaha
I was helping her set up her filters, she just sent me this email

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i got the poker working right thanks.
i played in a heads up game today.
i was getting low on chips and the blinds were getting higher so i bet and he raised so i went all in.
and won. that happened about 3 times. he started complaing about me min betting and raising etc.
he said " you should see my stats. i win about 65% of these games.
i was like " who cares you are not winning this one"
i ended up winning so told him to go revise his stats HA


hahahaha sick burn :>
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2 more weeks of THIS and it might be just in time Sad

I know no one really gives a fuck about others bad beats but here goes anyway.....Example of current form. 4 games going yesterday, decent/avg stacks in 3 of them... and a 2.5 x avg stack just short of bubble in the 32k GTD. Feeling good in the 32k, table is full of lag donks.

JJ in sb folds to me with lag in BB with avg stack. obv I call he ships I snap he shows a2 off and turns a straight. hmmmm

Ok..I can handle that....I fold the orbit until Im in the BB and I get JJ again. SB covers and over ships allin I snap he shows A2off. Rivers the Ace Neutral

Within the next 5 minutes on the other tables I run KK into AA and in another some nutjob on Absolite does a ridiculous c/r shove on the flop with ISD in a $100 game and I hero call 2nd pair/top kicker BINK FUCK... MY.... LIFE

One game left my blood is boiling and I really need a result! Somehow I grit my teeth and nitted up well with dead cards to eventually min cash... then I get them in with QQ vs KJ for a pretty huge stack and turn a set that I didnt want/increases villians outs by one...and.... OMG.... Noooooooo

To top it off....I somehow resisted berating villian.....but just as Im closing the room down I noticed he typed in chat.... "bye bye donk"

Shocked

Mad

/cant find the table via the lobby to reply, possibly due to short curcuiting frontal lobes

Today was even worse, excpet the "worst" came early so I lost controland played the rest iof the day like an idiot, predictably getting my azz handed to me
I wish I still drank alcohol Sad
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heh, anyone been playing on stars lately?

they having all these jackpots 'cos 50 billionth hand is coming up or something and ppl are SUCH idiots about it :p
basically folding is terrible 'cos everybody gets something, but you still see stuff like this:

PokerStars Game #49985000000: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2010/09/22 16:33:03 NZT [2010/09/22 0:33:03 ET]
Table 'Eltanin IV' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Pdogedog ($266.60 in chips)
Seat 2: hossyboybabe ($189.60 in chips)
Pdogedog: posts small blind $1
hossyboybabe: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
hossyboybabe said, "HI"
Pdogedog said, "hey mate"
Pdogedog: raises $264.60 to $266.60 and is all-in
hossyboybabe said, "SERIOUSLY"
hossyboybabe said, "U'LL WIN 4 BUCKS"
hossyboybabe: folds
Uncalled bet ($264.60) returned to Pdogedog
Pdogedog said, "gota protect my big hand" <-- so lolz
Pdogedog collected $4 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Pdogedog (button) (small blind) collected ($4)
Seat 2: hossyboybabe (big blind) folded before Flop

observer chat blew up after this hand something epic! Laughing Laughing
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Poker Stars $50/$100 No Limit Hold'em $25 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

nutsinho (MP): $26715.00
Domce (CO): $27022.00
ZhugeL1ang (BTN): $12447.00
Prefontaine (SB): $25000.00
ta1887 (BB): $33404.00
Mr Zahmat (UTG): $59909.75

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
Mr Zahmat raises to $300, 4 folds, ta1887 raises to $1100, Mr Zahmat calls $800

Flop: ($2400.00) 3h Tc Ts (2 players)
ta1887 bets $1600, Mr Zahmat raises to $4100, ta1887 raises to $7800, Mr Zahmat calls $3700

Turn: ($18000.00) 9c (2 players)
ta1887 bets $6500, Mr Zahmat calls $6500

River: ($31000.00) Kc (2 players)
ta1887 bets $8800, Mr Zahmat raises to $17600, ta1887 raises to $17979 all in, Mr Zahmat calls $379

Final Pot: $66958.00
ta1887 shows 4c 7s (a pair of Tens)
Mr Zahmat shows Td Ad (three of a kind, Tens)
Mr Zahmat wins $66955.00
(Rake: $3.00)

HOF
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after all these years it still amazes me the amounts cash game guys will play for, its incredible enough live but behind a computer? staggering
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I know right? Just think how many donkaments he could play with that $70k pot ?!
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Laughing That is fucking retarded?!?! The final re-raise all in, raising it an extra $379 when you have 7 high?!?! Shocked

Fair enough on the attempted steals pre flop and on the flop...but after that, jesus man, give up! Laughing

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Insanity said:
Laughing That is fucking retarded?!?! The final re-raise all in, raising it an extra $379 when you have 7 high?!?! Shocked
Fair enough on the attempted steals pre flop and on the flop...but after that, jesus man, give up! Laughing


There's been a couple of hand histories posted on 2+2 before where that kind of thing has worked Wink Guy bet like 98% of his stack with a missed jack high flush draw, other guy shoved with 3 high for an extra $100 into like a 5k pot, jack high folded heh. It's the most legendary bluff if you can get it right heh. But yeah this spot was never going to work
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Pechora said:
Ordered two more books from Borders Online Smile

Pot-Limit Omaha Poker: The Big Play Strategy - Jeff Hwang
Advanced Pot-Limit Omaha: Small Ball And Short-Handed Play - Jeff Hwang

I am going to get good at this game :>


Yessssss they just arrived... Hurry up 5pm Very Happy
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Have you ever dared to play PLO live, Yak?
They get games going at Crown, decent stakes though, like $5/$10 or $10/$20 is the lowest they'll play

Apparently the higher stakes NLH at Crown is a fucking donkey gamblers crap shoot...more so than $2/$3...people with load of money to burn and no care for losing! Laughing
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Insanity said:
Have you ever dared to play PLO live, Yak?
They get games going at Crown, decent stakes though, like $5/$10 or $10/$20 is the lowest they'll play


Yeah played quite a lot of PLO at SkyCity.. Was pretty fun. Quite profitable too, considering at least half the table had barely even played it before on most nights. There was a few up there who would consistently own me though. It's high variance, but I think it's easier to dominate someone in PLO if you understand the fundamentals better (compared to full ring NLH).
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Viktor Blom (isildurrrrrrr) leads the WSOPE main event field after day 2 :>
Ivey in 6th...

gogogogogo
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When do they start airing coverage of this?
Blom's blow up in the last one was beautiful! Laughing

So...anyone playing the WCOOP main event? haha
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Isn't there delayed streaming of WSOPE this year with hole cards?
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Yeah 5 hour delay FT with hole cards Very Happy
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Blom 1 / 19 Very Happy
Ivey coming 5th..

omg one timeeee... :>
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FML ivey out in 19th nooooo Sad Sad

Let's go isildurrrrrr
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Stink one...again, when does coverage start? Not until it's all done and dusted?
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Coverage is on atm but can't fnd working link :'(

De Wolfe is cl on final table I think... gogogogogogogogo runner runner hobgoblin! Very Happy
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Roland is 3rd I think.. Blom was 1/19, Ivey was 5/19. And they're out 19th and 16th? Rigged Sad
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epic PLO action on FT right now Very Happy
Was cadillac vs durrr, 300/600, durrr kept rebuying for 30k and somehow managed to lose over 600k lol.
He went to get another transfer but never showed up, so Skjervoy sat down.
Skjervoy ran like god for like 10-12 hands, managed to turn 30k into 270k in mostly coolers and beats, Cadillac obv getting a bit tilted, then this hand... All in on the flop Laughing Laughing



Bottom two and gutterball vs top set.

Drawing dead to a 6. 16% equity for 540k pot hahahah so owned Very Happy
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Hahahah jesus just as I was typing that he just won another 260k monster. Had way the best hand this time though.

Sitting on 900k stack now at 300/600 heads up hahahah utter carnage
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omggggggg hahahahaha

He just scooped another 240k pot, ran twice, with a pair of jacks. ONE pair

Ad Jd Qh 5c versus Kd 9d Qc 3s

Skjervoy shipped it on turn, board ran 7d 10c 6d Js then 4c first run, 2s second run hahahaha

1.02 million stack now. So retardedly sick.
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Unreal. Whos is Cadallic? Some US kid? Durr seems top be getting a bit owned lately, perhaps the rest are cathcing up on him a bit . Roland De Wolf spews horribly everytime I see him play, is he actually any good? Got your trans Yak cheers PS I fkln hate poker
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Join the PLO revolution man :> I've been reading these new books I got, it's highlighted a couple major things I hadn't really focused on already and I've only read 20 pages. I'm starting to feel enthused like when I was learning hold'em for the first time again Very Happy
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Don't think it's public knowledge who cadillac is btw. He was claiming in chat that he's 66 years old heh, but no chance imo. He ended up leaving yesterday with like 650k stack. Was such a mental game against Skjervoy. Skjervoy had 458k stack at the end and finished the session up $10k lol.
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Holy fuck the money that gets thrown around in those high level PLO games is sickening!
$250K+ AIPF with 88JA and not even double suited?!?! Fucking insane!

What's the latest on the WOSPE Main Event?
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Looks sweaty and gross...who is it? Laughing
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Jesus... just logged onto FT now and Cadillac1944 has a 700k stack on a 6max 300/600 table
Man what a heater this guy is on Neutral
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HSDB has Cadillac up 650k for the last two days now, and Skjervoy is up 650k too for those 2 days, about 600k of that came from Cadillac hahaha.... craziness.

He owned durrr and galfond. Awesome action
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Ahhhhh Cadillac's luck finally ran out Razz

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God damn, past 24 hours:

Top 5 winners:

skjervoy All 572 $1,234,177 (Last 24 hours)
IHateJuice All 1109 $459,568 (Last 24 hours)
DrugsOrMe All 418 $294,010 (Last 24 hours)
trex313 All 844 $234,844 (Last 24 hours)
harrington25 All 758 $176,644 (Last 24 hours)

Top 5 losers:

Patrik Antonius All 2246 $-921,113 (Last 24 hours)
cadillac1944 All 816 $-580,787 (Last 24 hours)
David Benefield All 723 $-422,070 (Last 24 hours)
Brian Hastings All 341 $-216,016 (Last 24 hours)
Urindanger All 38 $-133,858 (Last 24 hours)



Skjervoy owned Cadi for another 600k, now up 1.2m in 24 hours... :o

Also in other big high stakes news:

ISILDUR1 IS BACK. Well, Kinda. He was sitting at three 100/200 HUNL tables - but everybody refusing him action Sad Good news though, people were offering to play him PLO and he refused Very Happy Needs to grind up NLHE before trying that again heh.
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heh awesome bout Isildur... imagine if he had shipped WSOPE main event :>
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In other news, what are people's thoughts on pokertableratings? Just did a search for the mighty lopsided4pe and it's pretty grim lol (although definitely on the comeback in recent times) Very Happy
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gummi_bear said:
In other news, what are people's thoughts on pokertableratings? Just did a search for the mighty lopsided4pe and it's pretty grim lol (although definitely on the comeback in recent times) Very Happy


Until I can learn to stop playing when drunk / stressed / tilting then I hate it :> In general I think it should be banned too, I don't really see how it's good for poker. It promotes bum-hunting, gives people ammo to needle weak players which will keep them out of the game. Definitely a useful tool and one that I think you have to take advantage of while it's available or you're just putting yourself at a disadvantage - but one that's killing the game slowly imo.
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Same as OPR and HUDS..would be banned in an ideal world but thats impossible so use them or get used

Im profitable in Omaha on PTR, couldnt work out why when I was generally losing at RUSH Omaha then realised its cos PTR doesnt track rush and my profit was 100% driven by stacking the hell out of Yaksha playing him HU when I was drunk :>
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What the hell is pokertableratings? Laughing

Hello from outside of the loop
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Insanity said:
What the hell is pokertableratings? Laughing

Hello from outside of the loop


Basically OPR for cash games. A tracking site - very thorough and detailed.
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Totally agree that it's awful for the game, but it's a pretty incredible resource...

(also very funny to look back on hands you've butchered) Very Happy
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So it's a (free?) cash game tracker? That's rough...bet that's why people stack off with me/I can't get bluffs through...everyone knows I'm a fucking fish! Laughing Seriously, I suck balls at cash online...if I ever load back up again, I'm just going to ban myself from them...I've been fine at Cash at Crown with always getting in good, though last two trips have ended poorly with bad side of variance, but least I go it in good! Razz

gummi_bear said:
See you at the tables soon Insanity! Very Happy


Not so far! Froggy

Question: If you sign up through a rakeback site, do you still get the first deposit bonus? Confused

If I play again, gonna make sure it's through a rakeback site, which means a site never signed up to before, which means bonus...hopefully

You liking Cake, eh Maestro? Good for tournaments/SNGs?
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Interested in your opinion here Mr yak (and othrrs) theres a lot of streets where things are weird

Read on villian is straight forward and a little bad, has 30k in profit..... but closer reveals thats literally all come from a 2nd place in the Double Duece

Final table

Full Tilt Poker Game #24316534842: Daily Double - B (186525819), Table 89 - 15000/30000 Ante 4000 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:47:39 ET - 2010/09/30

Seat 1: TaylorFirebaugh (1,314,329)
Seat 2: bitsy1 (399,710)
Seat 3: playnwithnada (420,620)
Seat 5: IRON_FIST_NZ (803,400)
Seat 7: LoezLionco (454,941)

TaylorFirebaugh antes 4,000

bitsy1 antes 4,000
playnwithnada antes 4,000
IRON_FIST_NZ antes 4,000
LoezLionco antes 4,000

bitsy1 posts the small blind of 15,000
playnwithnada posts the big blind of 30,000
The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IRON_FIST_NZ [Ts 9s]

IRON_FIST_NZ raises to 77,777
LoezLionco folds
TaylorFirebaugh has 15 seconds left to act
TaylorFirebaugh raises to 157,422
bitsy1 folds
playnwithnada folds

IRON_FIST_NZ calls 79,645

*** FLOP *** [6h 6s Th]

IRON_FIST_NZ checks
TaylorFirebaugh has 15 seconds left to act
TaylorFirebaugh bets 134,511
IRON_FIST_NZ calls 134,511
*** TURN *** [6h 6s Th] [3s]

IRON_FIST_NZ bets 507,467 allin
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Hmm.. this one is extremely read/situation dependent - how often is villain 3-betting? Are there any bet sizing/timing tells?

In a vacuum, I don't really like the turn shove. There's not a single better hand that's folding, and the only worse hands that will ever call there is possibly 88 or 99, or overs + flush draw, which you shouldn't want to gamble with really, and if you're looking to just get him to fold two random overs, you're placing too much value (your tournament life as 2nd in chips) in that protection.

This is a spot where I'd definitely check the turn and re-evaluate. How often is he double-barrelling with air here? I would fold a decent amount of the time on the turn on the basis that you'll still be #2 in chips alone, unless I had a prettty strong-ish feeling that he is double barrelling super light, in which case I'd obv shove. Tis an interesting one for sure Smile
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Oh a big consideration also is how terrible the others are. If they're all pretty unexploitable then obv that gives more merit to gambling here etc.
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btw preflop might be a fold the more I think about it.

You're UTG, presumably you haven't been taking too many liberties to have a LAG image from EP, and you've been 3-bet by the only person who has you covered, and you have 26 blinds. I think it can be too easy to think "well, good suited connectors, let's see a flop" - but on the balance of things, there's not really too much that can go right. It's a good spot earlier in the tourney because you can rep more, you're not playing short-handed and you can be more sure you're up against a stronger hand that will pay you off etc...

But here, it seems like when you're putting in 15% of your stack preflop, the best you can hope for is to hit top pair andd pray that you're not against an overpair or K-10 / A-10 etc, or you're going to hit a big draw and get there or semi bluff to win a deccent pot. But it's quite risky for the reward. I think raising in the first place is good, but I think folding here to this 3-bet is probably optimal.

As played, flop play is perfect and turn is debatable but interesting
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Levelled myself at the time to thinking he would fold overpairs because of the 1st v 2nd dynamic and he had been saying things in chat earlier that let me know he knew who I was. ie bluffing at the flush card is pretty bad vs strength and he should know that. He did timebank/ claim overpair but not sure if he was telling the truth. I dont often call a 3 bet there and certainly wouldnt vs a good player, its prob still wrong.... but not awful. At the time I remember thinking I might be able to apply some pressure b/c of payouts but I think that has some merit in position but not much out

Playingwthnada is a good SS reg but the others were not, there was no need to take a big gamble. tbh I dont think I even run that thought through my mind. Really wish i could learn how to timebank. I always finish my mtts having used..... none of it.

Im stiill really undecided on the river ship. The pot size is so big that taking it down now is great and if called by the overs we nearly always have 13 outs and an utterly commanding chip lead. Not to mention random good stuff like being called by 88/99 and flushy overs is also fine and Im not sure if we can discount a badish player like this running the streets through his head and thinking "Decent UTG raises then flats my 3b, 2 flushes on board the pot is huge maybe he has AA and doesnt want to see river, if I fold Im still 2nd in chips, I dont want to go out now for only $700 bla bla etc I fold my JJ"

OR...perhaps thats just a justifying overthink and it actually sucks for the simple "doesnt ever get overpair to fold and thats pretty much what his hand looks like" line. hmmm I might put this HH in front of a few pros and see if I get roasted
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Insanity. You still get all the bonuses you would normally. Do not not do it whatever you do. Missing out on rakeback is criminal. Ive stopped playing CAKE. Reccomend you join mansion or any Euro room ....mansion prob has the best mtts though. Or if you insist on joining the US then join Absolute.

Or just join em all and work out which one you like. Theres no limit Very Happy
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That hand is a toughy, Maestro...5 handed on the final table, knowing your nittyness, I'd say you have the perfect image for the UTG raise and call of the 3bet with a hand like that...not sure about the Turn shove though, but check-calling is pretty damn ugly there, still gives you zero information about what he has...but as you've got top pair and now a flush draw, and your image, it's probably very optimal with you opponent either thinking "over pair or set"...got it through, kudos

The Maestro said:
Insanity. You still get all the bonuses you would normally. Do not not do it whatever you do. Missing out on rakeback is criminal. Ive stopped playing CAKE. Reccomend you join mansion or any Euro room ....mansion prob has the best mtts though. Or if you insist on joining the US then join Absolute.

Or just join em all and work out which one you like. Theres no limit Very Happy


It's a money thing though dude, when I'm back from South America, I want to put a decent amount on (by decent I mean $200 - lol) so want to know it's on a good site for MTT's and SNG's.

Pretty sure I had a Mansion account at somestage, so no bonus/rakeback sign up unless I try and diddle them with a second account.

How do you even tell which ones are Euro VS American? Anyone know of a site which has comparrison information of the various poker sites? Confused
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Well ya I meant join a few and just play freerolls or rail to see if you like the software

That raketherake.com site I sent you a link to explains which rooms are US/Euro
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Excellent...cheers
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The Maestro said:
e. hmmm I might put this HH in front of a few pros and see if I get roasted



FWIW Ive been informed that turn ship is pretty bad but is actually dwarfed by pre flat which is horrendous. I suck Very Happy
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Yess yak = right on both counts Wink
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Awesome quote from latest WSOP: "There's just so much in the pot... I mean I can't 6-bet / fold.."

Dunno why but that cracks me up Laughing
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I logged into Stars for the first time in donkeys yesterday, discovered I had $2.35 on there...score! Laughing

Went to short stack the 2c/5c table and accidentally went to a 5c/10c...oops...protected my blind first hand with 89s 4 players to a flop, hit 8 high flop, checked it, raiser bet the pot, min raised him and he folded...more or less doubled thanks to the additional callers pre flop. Hit a few nice hands and made a few blatant "I didn't hit that flop, but I know you didn't either" re-pops and in about 20-30 mins I was up to $28!

Why can't everything go that well to plan when I'm playing decent stakes?!?! Laughing
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1.3m day for durrr today :o destroyed ziggy at PLO..
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wow! Doesn't Ziggy get destroyed quite often in the nosebleeds?


...

my 10NL graph for last 2 weeks -- non-showdown winnings line is fkn sexy imo :>




Have been killing game for 2 months now... made 3 $25 deposits and converted each one to > $100 each time ($175 last time actually, although that included $50 bonus from stars) Very Happy
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Ziggy is a beast at PLO except when he's tilting heh. A non tilting Ziggy just steamrolls nearly everyone though at HU PLO.

Nice graph gummi Very Happy

I put in two massive sessions over the weekend at Crown. 15 hours on Saturday, ended $1100 up, then lost it all on Sunday FML haha

Final straw on Sunday was a guy check-raising the K-10-6 flop, I had K-10 and call. Turn ace, he ships, I call, he shows J8o. Boom, river queen Razz $500 pot lol. Just went home after that heh.
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Show mini profile durrrr
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$1,512,076
(Last 24 hours)


sick life


1.5 mirrion dollars
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omggg what a tease. Durrr just sat 4 tables vs isildur 100/200 NLHE. I've been waiting a freakin year for this day! :>

Then durrr quit after like 15 mins saying doesn't feel well, might be back soon after room service.
Epicness about to ensure in the next few days I think :>
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yesssss he's back :> *gets red bull*
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btw LOL at this guy on the final table of EPT... FIST are you coaching now?! :>

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John Juanda raised and Artur Wasek called in the big blind to see a {k-Clubs}{j-Hearts}{8-Hearts} flop. Wasek checked, Juanda bet 335,000, and Wasek called.

They saw a turn - the {8-Spades} - and Wasek checked again. Juanda bet 575,000 this time, and Wasek folded.

As EPT Live commentator William Reynolds said, "He needs to develop a new strategy that is not calling out of position and then calling again and then folding."


then

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Wasek Wilting?

Posted 43 minutes ago by Homer

Artur Wasek raised preflop on the button to 225,000 and Kyle Bowker made the call in the big blind.

The flop came {K-Diamonds} {5-Clubs} {J-Spades} and Bowker led out for 240,000. Artur Wasek folded {A-} {J-} face up in an "interesting" move.


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Wasek Plays "Unconventional" Poker

Posted 35 minutes ago by FerricRamsium

David Vamplew open-shoved, and the table folded around to the blinds. In the big, Artur Wasek took his pause to consider, apparently toying around with a tough decision. Finally, he lifted his cards off the felt, stared at them, and open-mucked {A-Hearts} {Q-Diamonds}.

Vamplew took a big gulp as he added the blinds and antes to his stack.


Nitting for payjump ITT!! Wink
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Very sick graph, gummi! Well played...I don't know how you stay so focused on those levels, eh!?

Pechora said:
Final straw on Sunday was a guy check-raising the K-10-6 flop, I had K-10 and call. Turn ace, he ships, I call, he shows J8o. Boom, river queen Razz $500 pot lol. Just went home after that heh.


Laughing Good lawd, that's so awful! How did you not verbally tear him to shreds?

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Yak, can you give cliffs of last few days of nosebleeds action? Razz

cbf'd with gazillion page thread on 2p2 :>
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Well my dreams of turning that $2.35 into millions was shattered...I'd got it up to $28 and took it to the 10c/25c tables, went up a little, then down to total about $22 when I got KK and ran it headlong into AA...I raised from MP, button 3bet it, I flatted as I'm always freaked out of running into AK which always seems to flop the dreaded Ace...flop came 9 high rainbow and all the chips went in...FML
Laughing
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If ya gonna ever drop a small amount online and try make a profit I can't recommend playing deepstack 5c/10c NL enough.

People have no idea how to play with deep stacks and people with >400BB have no trouble getting it all in with TPTK...

Smile
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gummi_bear said:
Yak, can you give cliffs of last few days of nosebleeds action? Razz
cbf'd with gazillion page thread on 2p2 :>


Umm:

- Isildur won about 80k from some guy called '483558' or something
- Then 6-tabled durrr and won about 120k
- Then 6-tabled jungleman12 for an epic long session, ended up down about 200k to him. Jungleman12 ran retarded hot Sad Isi was up about 10 buyins at one point, then jungleman pulled back to even in like 40 mins, just winning every single flip and cooler etc. To his credit though, isi quit when things really weren't going his way Very Happy Something he wasn't capable of before. He quit all tables with over 300k left, so he'll be back Smile
- Gus was messing around at 500 / 1k again vs UrinDanger and DrugsOrMe and was losing heaps (again) - probably in the vicinity of 200-300k, I didn't watch all of it

Can check results on highstakesdb.com Smile





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Fuck I want to be home railing right now... Epic action on a 200/400 PLO table.. Average pot = 65k right now ?!
Average pot is 162 blinds... LOL

Cadillac is such an awesome whale Very Happy he just 5-bet pre 66k with KK82 one suit then potte dthe 10 8 5 flop or something, got run down by AAxx.

Ziggy just won a 545k pot vs DrugsOrMe - yes, that's a 1,362 blind pot hahahahahaha jesus christ
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lolz action flop Very Happy

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed)
Hero (BB) ($18.03)
UTG ($10.55)
MP ($13.20)
CO ($10)
Button ($8.20)
SB ($12.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 8
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.37) J, 10, 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, Hero raises to $17.61 (All-In), UTG calls $9.83 (All-In), Button calls $7.48 (All-In)

Turn: ($29.41) 9 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($29.41) 4 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $29.41 | Rake: $1.46

Results:
Button had 7, A (flush, Ace high).
Hero had 9, 8 (flush, Jack high).
UTG had K, Q (flush, King high).
Outcome: Button won $23.48, UTG won $4.47
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Question about this hand in $4 180 SnG I played last night. It's pretty late in the tournament and we're getting close to bubble. I'm surrounded by passive fish who really struggle to fold pre-flop:

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 125/250 Blinds (9 handed)
UTG+1 (t14644)
MP1 (t9876)
MP2 (t4260)
MP3 (t5275)
CO (t5180)
Button (t12194)
SB (t28289)
Hero (BB) (t11557)
UTG (t14937)

Hero's M: 30.82

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t250, 4 folds, Button calls t250, SB calls t125, Hero bets t11282, UTG+1 calls t11282, 2 folds

Flop: (t23564) 9, K, Q (2 players)

Turn: (t23564) 10 (2 players)

River: (t23564) 8 (2 players)

Total pot: t23564

Results:
Hero had 9, 9 (three of a kind, nines).
UTG+1 had K, K (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 won t23789

....


Now, is shipping it here kinda bad? Checking seems soooooo much worse, and raising to something like 1600 or something, I know if first guy calls then I'm going to get a lot of callers and be playing a middle pair OOP in multi-way pot. So basically I thought there's a ton of dead money out there and shipping it is the most risk free way of getting it. Am I totally wrong here, since I'm pretty deep and will only get called by better hand...?

I would normally be suspicious of UTG limper, but his VPIP was sometihng like 55/0 over 50 hands....
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Hmm I think 45 blinds is a bit much to ship in here. I don't think you only get called by better hands (certain AK/AQ will call a tonne, smaller pairs sometimes, even AJ gets stubborn here in those things sometimes).

But against their calling range you're not a massive favourite and there's not that much dead money that you need to go mental over it. With 25 blinds I'd be happy shipping here, but not 45 imo. I'd just check (because as you've noted, you'er likely just to be OOP in a raised pot if you raise) and hope to flop a set or overpair tbh.
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Cheers for advice Smile It just seems to me that checking is not very +EV in that spot, but shipping is, 'cos all limpers will fold a ton of time and the rest of the time you're likely to be flipping but are only crushed very occassionally?

To be honest, I have a hard time coming to grips with factoring in "tournament life" into my decision making Razz

In other news, *eventually* shipped one of those 180 player SnGs on stars last night Very Happy

Was in really good spot to make a run of winning another one I was playing at same time, but came 10th...

Will post some hands for advice later when I get home Razz
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Well you said you're getting close to the bubble right... In a 180 SNG there are few things more important than your tourney life at this stage. In large MTTs good players won't give a crap about the bubble and will be looking at the final table, but in a SNG your first and most important goal is reaching the money, and then working your magic from there to get more... So you've got to factor that in when you're looking to shove here.

45 blinds is just too good of a position in these things to throw away just praying that nobody will call. There's only like 4-5 blinds in the pot, which is just two regular late position steals where you're only risking 2.5bb instead of 45bb... There's just much better spots.

I would shove AK for value and like JJ+ (unless I felt like raising less and was sure I could get heads up with a reasonable raise) but 99 I don't like
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I think it's just too easy when you're possibly getting a dry run of cards to light up at the sight of 99.. But it's not a monster and you've gotta take it in context. In this context, there's just not that much that can go right, when considering risk/reward
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Okay so this is about as degen as you can possibly get :>

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/rush-poker-your-mobile-phone-895249/

Real money RUSH poker on your phone?! Very Happy omg.
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So is anyone still playing this game or what? Sad
Post more people! Let's get this bitch up to 10k posts! Wink

I've been playing PLO cash exclusively last little while.. Been relatively up and down, and haven't set up my PC yet (just arrived my shipping last week) so haven't HEM analysed how I've been running, the game is definitely beatable though. Have some nice tips from the books I ordered so far but still a lot more reading to do... Think I'm going to start making a run at the mixed games as well. Was playing .10 / .20 7-game for a while and it seemed pretty easy. Especially razz, god people suck at that game. I just need to calm down in the NLHE round :> It's like you play limit for 6 games and then suddenly no limit it's easy to go a bit nuts with freeeeedom heh.

Might head down to Crown this weekend and try out some Aussie Millions satellites Very Happy

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heh, why is nobody posting? I only play on the w/end these days Razz

I just played a bunch of 180 man SnGs on the w/end (it's kinda addicting after you ship one of them), and just about everything that could go wrong went pear shaped. Each beat on its own is superstandard but when it happens over and over again it's so fkn frustrating Razz

gl in satellites Yak Very Happy
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Im not posting cos Im in middle of my worst run since i started. FUCK poker. cant belive the amount of ways it is inventing to fk me up the azz. Playing about 3000 hands a day and Im lucky if I get Aces twice. As for going on a heater or winning flips./..forget it. Fkn rigged imo. Loking forward to full time work back at AUT in a few days tbh cos I cannot handle much more of this. My chat box abuse is getting out of control too
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Check out Bond18 's lastest blog Maestro Smile It's a little airy fairy but some good advice/perspective too..

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-blogs/43-tony-bond18-dunst/entries/238028-emotional-impression-meets-logical-progression
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lol at matt aflecks k10 hand vs thorson on latest WSOP

SHOW ME 97!!! *doh* Very Happy
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ahaha that was awesome trixy Very Happy

talking about TV poker... OMG did anyone watch latest week of The Big Game?

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