Phil Reynolds controversy!!!!

Alright phil reynolds fans, you may want to sit down before reading this!!

Now, im not 100% certain, but at this point am 90% certain of what im about to tell you.......

I was at danceportal.co.uk the other day and decided to stream the Phil Reynolds @ There whilst surfing the net (as you do). So, im happily looking at my favourite sites whilst listening to Phil do his thing. As Phil is mixing in a track i thought i would watch to see the boy in action. So, he finishes his mix and is fiddling around with the mixer etc and i decide to go back to my other website i was looking at, when out the corner of my eye i see.....wait for it.......Phil taking a cd out and putting it back in its case!!! Yes, you heard right! I thought maybe he was recording his mix so i looked for a while longer and saw on numerous occasions him mixing cds!! WTF!!!!
He was mixing vinyl as well, but there were alot of cds involved in the time i watched this mix.

Anyway, im going back to have a closer look......

Now dont shoot the messenger, alright!!!

Im only telling you what i THINK and am pretty sure i saw!

obviously he records all his new stuff onto CDR and plays it. It's what alot of producers do. It's the most afforable way to test n prime yours and other peoples tunes.

Furthermore, if you were lucky enough to go to Slinky in September last year, Phil R & Matt Clarke were both mixing a combo of CD's & vinyl - hardly controversial.

Do people feel cheated when DJ's are mixing CD's with vinyl?

Well, i guess i do......

If i wanted a cd mix, i woulda gone to sounds and bought it. yeah i know, not the same thing, but i prefer the djs i go to see spinning vinyl.

I don't see why you would, mixing CD's takes just as much skill as vinyl. Especially with the new CDJs with the vinyl functions

Most DJ's will stick to vinyl - if you see them loading up the CD player then you know you are in for a treat - as it's usually going to be something unreleased!

Slave; The main reason behind the playing of the CD's is because the are the newest tunes which haven't gone to press.

If your lucky enough to see a dj of that level mixing CD's into their vinyl then you know that you are hearing the latest tunes available. Pretty bloody awesome i would think.

yeah, i do see your point zebedee - i guess i was just alittle shocked to see Phil doing this time and time again.

Phil does it alot and so do a lot of DJ's now.
Basically acetates cost so much now - NZ$200 each.
I still spend a fortune on them - but if you've just finished a track and want to roadtest it in case you want to make changes - a NZ$1 CD-R over an acetate is definitely the way to go...as well as a track that you'll have on promo in a couple of weeks...
I agree it looks weird though - people coming up to a DJ box and peering over it to check out what is playing and nothing is spinning on the decks...but as long as it sounds good...

i think its fine...

slave1 ... consider yourself lucky ..you where hearing the freshes tunes know to man... nothing more fresh than a cd of a track they have just made and are "test driving" it on the crowd..

as a wanna be dj myself .. its really hard to find and imposible at times to get some of the old classic tunes out there .. the only way is to resort to downloading them.. so you can put them in a set.. now i would rather have the record but in some cass this is impossible...

ps..
have you seen the new pioneer cd player .. fulley like a record on top.. you can scratch it, backspin, just like a record.. it still takes skill to play a cd ..its not a microsolf plug and play device...( if it was it would be fucked anyway )

cheers for your ears .

mike c

So what kinda CD player do these DJ's use when they include one in there set up?
CD Mixer? or just a single component CD player?

Does a regular mixer allow you to mix a CD into a vinyl playing on the decks?

Usually a Pioneer CDJ CD player - which has built in pitch control, queue etc will be included on a standard setup (although other brands also make them it seems Pioneer is the standard - at least here in New Zealand).

There isn't such thing as a "CD Mixer" - a normal mixer does the job. There are ones available which include a mixer and 2 cd players in one though that i guess would fit that description.

It will usually be hooked up through one of the channels of your mixer - flick the channel from photo to line, and then you can just mix it as if it was a turntable.

So whats the standard retail price for a Pioneer CDJ CD player?

Baynesy, the one MCEnergy is refering to is $3000 plus per unit, hence $6000 plus for a pair with no mixer. BUT they are the shit, the CDJ-1000. Its even got a little screen to view the audio stream like looking at the grooves on vinyl.

CDJ-100's & CDJ-500's are signifantly cheaper. CDJ-500s are comparable to tables, $1700 approx. However, they have a standard jog on top whereas the 1000's have a goddamnfunky jog.

Some CD players are sold in a pair and include a built in mixer. Normally the lesser known brands but some Nurmark sets are like that.

Shit! Not cheap are they?

Nope, their NOT cheap! But they are the shit, you can scratch on em, you can store up to 4 cue (loop) points, the jog is GREAT, its like a Turntable almost.

The 500's are good too. They have one cue point (for looping etc) If your thinking of getting some just make sure you get a set with a jog cause using a slider and a 'jump' button is unintuitive.

I've had a fiddle round on the 1000 and was impressed. And thats coming from someone whos been a vinyl purist for a long time. The scratching was pretty damn good, and seeing they have so much memory they buffer a decent amount of time in the memory.

My only complain was that the "touch sensitivity" wasn't quite all that. You still had to use a dial to set the sensitivity of the "platter" when slowing down the records, it wasn't like a real turntable (the harder you push the faster it slows down).

Still, they are getting there...maybe the next model will be the "perfect" cd turntable?!