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i personaly arnt under age any more but i was curious what your thoughts are on them eg have you done them, what did you think, are they easy to get, dose anyone feel there a gateway drug for underages
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Sugar, caffene, alcohol & cigarettes are the gateway drugs. All totally accepted by western society...
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party pills. waste of money really. they're all totally overpriced! haha
just got natural. u'll love yourself for it Froggy
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ummmm dance pils are all good in my opinion... but i know there are many diff opinions on them.... I would much rather ppl on herbals at a gig than getting pissed and smoking etc... if your using them to get urselves messed up i dont approve but if ur using them to give u that extra boost to get you through the night then i think thats all right....


I think that jax is probably the best herbal on the market... Its $25 from alot of daireys Smile I also think that exodus and frenzy come close behind it Smile
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It was good to see the young crowd at spectrum mostly going straight, I think a few herbals is all good for energy, if you want to try the real thing at least wait until you are 18.
Agree with RP though there is a place for drunk and stoned morons and it certainly isn't a dance party.
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well i had my first herbals that worked on saturday and they were fun, definitely do them again, but i reckon alcohol / weed etc is pretty stupid..if you want to do that then why not go to a pissup? i agree with raversparadise tho, im nt trying ecstasy til im 18
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just stay off the hard stuff! lol
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exodus or ESP?
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Meh.

Booze, ciggies, caffeine, herbals...

I think that what a lot of people overlook is that all of those things are okay.

They really don't have to be a problem, just DON'T OVERDO IT. No-one likes the type that drinks so much they end up in ER getting their stomach pumped. It's not cool, it just means you're an idiot.

I think that's the real problem - people thinking - 'Oh, that's coooool, need as much as I can possibly handle and then some', and ruining it for everyone else. Case in point being the possibility of the drinking age going back up.
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I dont see any problem with herbals really. As an under ager i find them rellativley easy to get, but then again im not a regular user. They actually alot better in public than alchahole in alot of ways. They dont really tend to bring out violent temprements in people (as far as im aware), and dont really distort the though processes as much....that is of course if u dont overdo it.

But yeah i personally dont like weed. It puts me in the wrong frame of mind. Therefore i dont do it. Alchahol is alright but, i say this because i know its effects.

But yeah herbals aint really a gateway drug as much as weed and alchahol. They are the things with that depressive effect on your head that get people into cycles in th first place

But thats just my opinion.
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They should be restricted to R18 I think...
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well i think it is good that over here you have the choice of a herbals or the right thing... in aussie you dont it is just the real shit getting around. now i have to say i have done the real thing and it rocks it is good for people that dont know how to interracked. . .
i think they are a good thing to take if you take them at the right times.
it is better than kids getting around with tracks up there arms
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mikem said:
They should be restricted to R18 I think...


Yeah i think i do actually agree with this even though i am underage. I think could help minimise alot of the instances of people ending up in hospital from taking too much.

But if there is an age restriction of 18 weve also got to make sure that its enforced.

I also forgot to mention in my previous post that they are extremely overpriced. I know that other illegel drugs are much more expensive. BUt i still think theyre extremly overpriced for the effect they give.
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my little brother who is 17 told me he took them...

i was astonished...

i waited till i was 18 to even smoke pot let alone do anything else...and i still think i could/should have waited longer!!!
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Havn't tried them. Don't know the effects of them. I havn't really heard many posotive replys from people who have tried them so I'm kinda on the negative side. Rolling Eyes
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Meh.

I'm strange enough without any help Razz
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I'm the kind of person who has to try everything for themselves!
Herbals are over priced and we all know cheaper illegal alternatives. But they are all good for that extra energy or loved up feeling i would only recomend them for a really long night when you need that (And some can have nasty come downs and wont let you sleep Neutral ) otherwise pure adrenaline is the best! Everyone has different reactions to herbals.

Nos, cigarettes and alcohol is pretty much accepted these days i guess.

And i would never smoke weed at a dance party it just makes you tired and buzzed out and I go there to dance all night, not crash on a couch.. although sometimes it does happen
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I used to take a couple of herbals if I was staying out for more than 6 hours a night but i've found that I don't really need them anymore. What are people taking them for anyway? To stay awake? Dude if you're in any danger of falling asleep at a good rave then you have fully the wrong attitude towards your chosen passtime. They are horrendously overpriced too. Most herbals cost more than the door charge for your average party which I think is an insult to promoters everywhere.