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WTF is the US thinking

forget all the hot air expelled over Georgia as the US is once again fucking with countries sovereignty

Just how many wars do they want to lose?

wouldn't it be nice if just one of the candidates for President utter those seemingly antiquated words "peace in our time"
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I guess Pakistan has been false advertising to the world for so long - claiming they support the war on terror and helping to find the real 'evil-doers' - but actually hinder the efforts at ever step that the US thought no-one would notice if they ran a couple of hundred metres into Pakistan.. Oooopps.

R
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well every nation fighting this so called war is guilty of the same double standard, more so those who kicked it off

this sort of incursion is an act of war, just like the not so covert ops in Iran et al

the one rule for US and another for the rest of the world era is coming to an end
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bob daktari said:
this sort of incursion is an act of war, just like the not so covert ops in Iran et al


Not really. It's just life for frustrated troops in an area where no-one on the ground actually knows where the exact border is - and where no-one really uses the land for anything other than skipping in and out of countries undetected. If Pakistan were at all serious about this (terrorism) they'd paint a line on the ground and maintain it. As it stands they don't, they'd rather have their airforce F16s upgraded at America's cost.

R
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The US has been bribing Pakistans govt to the tune of billions to fight this war in areas that are remote and unstable

The fact Pakistan has been only paying lip service to this so called war is no grounds for US forces to come and go as they please

a border is a border and is easily found on the many gadgets the US empolys to guide their drones, planes, missiles and ground forces
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If Pakistan wants to assert its sovereignty over these border regions, then it can bloody well take responsibility for what’s going on inside them.

Maybe the US & Afghanistan should start billing Pakistan for all expenses relating to enemy operations based on or supplied from Pakistani soil.
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what sort of ally attacks its friends?

if it wasn't for US$ there would be no Pakistani support for the US's war on whatever its called this week
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Pakistan is still a major regional power with twice as many people as Iran. And it definitely has nuclear weapons.

Using US troops in Pakistan without permission is simply begging for trouble. Last week the Pakistani Army chief, General Ashfaq Kayani, warned "the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country will be defended at all cost. No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan".

The White House may be hoping the newly elected President, Asif Ali Zardari, will be pliable enough to let such things happen. Even if he were, the Pakistani Army simply would not allow it.

The new Bush policy is stupid and futile. How can using US troops on Pakistani soil do anything but drive more local people into the arms of the militants and turn the Pakistani Government into America's enemy?

But it is of a piece with the larger "Bush doctrine" which decrees the best way to deal with terrorism is to attack the countries where the terrorists live with military force.

The senior officers who now command the US armed forces should know this is not just wrong but counter-productive. They were all taught that the best way to counter terrorism is by police work, intelligence gathering, and defensive security measures.

The use of military force just plays into the terrorists' hands.


www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10532933&pnum=2