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Let's take the gloves off.
We all know about Hussein Obama's deadbeat dad. Let's compare families.

Palin is willing to bring up a downs syndrome kid as well as a pregnant daughetr. No abandoning them like Hussein Obama Senior.

Some recent investigative reporting has also revealed the following:
- a cousin who was FDNY and was involved in saving multiple lives on 9/11
- a formerly lesbian niece (yeah, Palin is so homophobic. She was willing to help pay for the niece's lesbian wedding until it was called off)
- a naturalised Mexican half brother. (yeah, Palin is so anti Hispanic. Palin helped with the paperwork for the former illegal to gain his American citizenship)

While Obama's family screams DYSFUNCTIONAL, Palin's screams LOVE AND CARING.
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that's not really discussing Palin. Or at leat it's not a discussion of any substance...
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vadinho said:
Palin is willing to bring up a downs syndrome kid as well as a pregnant daughetr.


She has no choice in reality... but if you want to ta every child with their parent's ways/actions then lets round up anyone who's parents are from Germany pre 1945. Even if they weren't soldiers or Nazis they had a moral obligation to the world to oppose it. If they can't prove this then their children and grandchildren should all be barred from getting any publicly funded education.

vadinho said:
- a cousin who was FDNY and was involved in saving multiple lives on 9/11


So, a relative is a selling point now? Can we get rid of John Tamihere because of his relatives please?

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Obama lovers: shut the fuck down by VAD-D
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in answer to the question posed by your thread title

no
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A philanthropist does not necessarily make a good politician and leader of the USA

Can we have some real arguments please? Rolling Eyes
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vadinho said:
Let's take the gloves off.
We all know about Hussein Obama's deadbeat dad.
While Obama's family screams DYSFUNCTIONAL, Palin's screams LOVE AND CARING.


With that kind of argument, no Americans will vote for Obama's dad ever!
Stupid point, crude analogy, and mostly irrelevant, but you can have a gold star for trying if you'd like.

All else aside, I can only only assume that an intelligent person like yourself Vadinho, is only taking this pro-republican stance for the sake of argument- forgetting Obama for a second, have you actually seen McCain? The guy is a fucking moron, and can barely string a cohesive sentence together, and when he's not busy contradicting himself, as is very well documented all over the internet, or doing his best to sabotage his own campaign, you can quite clearly tell he is part of the 'old guard' of politicians, clearly in it for their own interests and not that of their constituents.

His decision to pick Palin for VP was political point scoring and nothing more. It was grossly irresposible and naive. As an indicator of McCains leadership style, it was a very unsettling move. As I say, you must only be pro-republican for arguments sake, or a fucking moron yourself. Also: heres an interesting read...

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/scanner/archive/2008/09/17/you-can-t-argue-with-a-conservative-no-really-it-s-a-fact.aspx
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I thought this was Palin vs Biden...

Not Palin vs Someone not even running for President/Vice President.
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resist said:
I thought this was Palin vs Biden...

Not Palin vs Someone not even running for President/Vice President.


Palin's background indicates a caring, productive and diverse family. Whereas Obama's indicates abandonment and selfishness.

Family life is crucial to development.
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Pro-creationist by default are already unvotable Smile
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vadinho said:
Palin's background indicates a caring, productive and diverse family.

So caring in fact that she illegally and unethically trampled all over due process and the interests of her state to fire anyone involved who was reluctant to sack the man who divorced her sister. Sounds perfect for POTUS huh vads... Neutral

Personally I won't get into the rest of the immediate family stuff about her as it's distateful in the extreme.