North Habour should be in div 2

well another interesting week of rugby

wellington finally playing like the team they should

counties cleaning up the second divsion and habour getting the pants thrashed off them good job...

troy favell would have to be the most overated fucked in the game of rugby.

counties didnt even lose by that much in the preseason to auckland.

and if rodney soloia (sp) isnt in the allblacks end of year tour then someone needs to be asking some serial questions there isnt a better number 8 in the game at the moment!

hahahahaha habour!!!!!!

but we'd probably still kick Counties division 2 ass, so shut up

good win for Auckland. Time for us to get back to the top form we were in about 4 years ago. We won so much it got boring to go to the games and support them!

they wouldnt beat counties

12 NPC titles, as I never hesitate to tell Harbour fans.

That's 12. Canterbury has 3. It shows who the real NZ powerhouse is.

For the last time Forest, if you're going to post in here, make it sound a little more sensible than your usual crap. Or I'll relocate it to The Lounge.



Good work

next please

its a current event topic

habour got beaten

wellington played a good game and as for couties and auckland outstanding just because you dont like rugby dosnt mean you have to come in here and tell me what to say and do ...

its a general rant about the weekends games its a a heck of a lot better and more interesting than some of the other shit in here..........

and if it was put in the lounge everbody would go erhh fuck off dont bring rugby in here

if people can talk about the tall blacks then i can talk about rugby

Forest does have a point, even though he doesent bring it across well ;P

I'm saying try and phrase your posts to aid conversation, and also try and maintain some sense of, umm, ENGLISH AND GRAMMAR. Thumbs up. Got no problem with the topic, just the content.



























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Well, perhaps Counties should have done a better job last year then? Who cares if they are cleaning up in second division?

"counties didnt even lose by that much in the preseason to auckland" ...please note the word preseason. Things are usually a bit different in the actual competition where it matters.

I'm not a big fan of Harbour, but I think some of your comments on Counties seem a little bit clouded rather than being logical.

harvey

same team that took the field against nth harbour played counties, preseason is nuthing differnt to the real competion at all. auckland only had 1 all black out at the time they played counties so what are you talking about i dont really know. Preseason is taking just as serially as normal competion because if you lose in preseason you havnt got a lot of time to get things right.

and if you have been following the rugby you will see that all the teams that are doing good ie otago and waikato all have counties players from last season.. like former couties player blair feeny is the leading points scorer and erh danny lee keeping bryon on the bench... there 2/5 also use to attend wesley college.

thus indicating that the mangament is in the second divsion not the team.

my comments arent clouded at all i follow rugby very closely i have family memeber and very close mates and friends in management for quite a few of the 1st and second divsion teams. Habours performance on saturday was shit offsides droped balls pretty average really troy favells performance was also pretty flat for a guy trying to get back in the all blacks he really needs to work on his game and learn to keep his hands to himself. really they looked like a team that is going done hill very quickly and if they dont beat a few more teams they maybe heading to the second divison as i said.

and as for who cares about the second divison
if they didnt have these smaller sub unions teams like auckland . otago and canturbury wouldnt even exist.

erh lets see here of some all blacks that have come from these not so important teams

Calab Raplh - Povety Bay
Cullen - Manawatu
Carl Hoeft - Thames Valley
Leon Mcdonald - Malbourgh

and the list goes on as some of the stars in this divsion one played in second divsion teams last year.

so does the second div really matter ? erh yes it does

all three divsions are much more important and much more exicting then any bullshit super 12 game.

you could go on about auckland winning its first three titles but if u didnt have second divsion players Jonah Lomu and Joile Virdi from counties at the time u wouldnt have been anywhere near the top of the competion. add to the that counties coach Mac Macalion.

so harvey next time u say my judgement is clouded about rugby
why not find out what i might know...

some of us are a little bit more cluded up than othes about certian things..

Counties are a good team. The biggest weakness of NZ rugby is that we don't have an automatic promotion/relegation system. I'd love to see teams like North Harbour suffering in the second division, where they belong (43-7 eh boys?). Whether Counties deserves to be division one would depend on whether they had a fair chance last year. However some teams should be in Div 1 that aren't because there isn't automatic promotion from Div 2

There is no point trying to speak rationally to those that are blinded in their support

lol@harvey.

Be laughing if Nth Harbour gets to beet auckland!!

lol @ harvey & Forest

Counties played like wimps last year, thats why they are in Div 2

forest how can you say "Preseason is taking just as serially as normal competion because if you lose in preseason you havnt got a lot of time to get things right." and then expect people to think you're clued up about rugby. If its just as important how come teams experiment with different players etc. Counties only won by 9 and 10 points in their 2 games and they were both at home, hawkes bay have been much more impressive.

Hawkes Bay 51 Counties 20 - nuff sed.

yea well ya cant win them all can ya and the season isnt over yet.....

You can win them all, and if you can't....you can certainly not get thrashed by a second div side

Maybe Counties should be in Division 3?

I will come to Forest's defence here, the point of the thread was that Nth Harbour deserve to be in 2nd Div, that i agree with.

Hawkes Bay are a good team and have won more NPC titles and ranfurly shields than Nth Harbour haven't they!

Counties will beat them in the final!

I will come to ermm......The Maestros defence here and say IF Harbour deserve to be in Div 2, thats where they will end up

Hawkes Bay may bhave won more everything than Harbour but Harbour have only been a union since um
1990(ish) so thats not a fair comparison

(I would prefer to see Counties promoted than Hawkes Bay btw, for the good of nz rugby)

North Harbour are 4th from bottom anyway so are unlikely to finish lastm, let alone get relegated. Counties are only 3rd in the second division.

well lets get the point right about counties shall we? lets see now 3 players if they are lucky 5 players that where in the team last year are still in there...

funny how thee leading points scorer in the npc is a former counties boy as well...

counties team cant be compared to anything from last year because it is a whole different team.

only about 2 players in the team had played more than a full season of first grade rugby before there season started.

so from my point of view they are going bloody great to be coming third..

also taking into account that hb's team is the same unit that played last year and the year before.. i didnt expect counties to beat them but i didnt expect them to get thrashed either...

and as for habour pfft they are just lucky northland dosnt have any points cause there preformance is pretty average to date. and as for troy favell ? even a 6 year old knows that the only way you are going to go forward is to run straight up the middle? about 5 times he either ran backwards or across the field and turned the ball over twice which resulted in Otago scoring a try.

and erh what year was that north habour had 4 shield matchs and lost all 4 ha good team ok then?

at least we have won the first divison.....
not to worry we will beat Hawkes bay next time

Sour grapes?

Forest, are you playing virtualnpc?

if so, find WSNC and add us as a mate...

you will see how ell the WSNC are doing...
274= out of 65,000 RSA jug drinkers.

nice one dude i will add u :-p

and I will add you both even if your not strictly speaking "my mates"



274th tho thats not bad, you should play v-bet as well

I'm playing virtual npc, but not doing too well. I'm also doing gimpgirls picks and she is beating me. Kinda funny cause she knows absolutely nothing about rugby. I'll add you guys to my list. You all using your biggie names?

nope not me

but justahalf gimme urs and i will add not to keen on giving mine out to other people...


im way down the list but i started two weeks after the npc kicked off

Im "The REAL Maestro"

Had a bad week last week so Im shit really...

Forest you miserable bugga

i am under WSNC

my bad...make that 264th =

hahahha

yea i have got u sorted Damien u way ahead of me but i have only just started your picks for last week where nearly the same as mine..

justahalf you using your biggie name as well?

shit Harbour went ok this weekend huh, does anyone know what happened in the Counties v East Coast game?

Im pretty sure Counties would have beaten a team whose bellies would look more at home at the Trident Tavern than a rugby field

counties lost 38-39 infront of a huge crowd about 10,000 people.

was a pretty tough game counties lost there fullback the 7's dude ( cant pronounce his name) after the first tackle...

not to worry thou we still scored 4 tries and lost by less than 7 so two more bonus points there for third place 2 games to go and they are both easy teams so they are sure to make it to the finals... if they dont then i dunno what the fuck is wrong with them.
East coast did pretty good last year thou didnt they?

lol maestro. Forest, I'm sure maestro knew the result and was just winding you up. Very surprising result though. East Coast haven't been very good this year. Northland this year must be one of he worst div 1 teams for a long time.

haha justahalf, wot me? wind up Forest?

I wouldnt fukin dare mate, hahahahaha. I see biggies best hope in the virtualsuper12 "WSNC" had a shocker

The big question now is who out of Wellington,Auck, Cant, Waikato and Otago will miss out on a semi

I think it will be Otago

yeah....had my lowest score from the games on
the weekend to date....

still round about the 500 mark.....need a good
result this week.....keep ahead of u amateurs..

Come on Damien!!!!!

MAKE US PROUD!!

MAKE US PROUD!!

*poof*

"I understand theres only one winning bet on this result"

I have made some brave calls...

if they pull off.....then I may assume the
lead....however...I need all the games to be
draws.....hahah

Its a hard week to do the picks for div1. Only 1 fairly obvious result, canterbury/north harbour.

marlbourgh vs counties.....easy pick that
one...counties smarting from a loss to east
coast the week before...

I did say div1 damien. Luckily your skills at picking the correct results are better than your reading skills.

very true though about that being an easy pick. Now watch while we're both proved wrong.

im going to the sth land naki game with my erhh media card muahaha those suckers free entry for me hahahaha


counties should whoop there arse

and as for canturbury

they will kick Nth Habours arse!

yahoooooooo counties won

muahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaha

well, I proved myself right...got most of Div 2 &
3....go the grassroots..

but div one can get fucked....dropped down to
2000 and something in the scheme of
things...fucking shocker.

just a half is now leading the biggie
virtualnpc....however, he is only a few points
ahead of me....

managed to get the 20 bonus points for div3. Makes a big difference. Definitely a few surprises in div1 with southland and northland winning. Looks like the top 4 will be otago, canterbury, waikato and either wellington or auckland.

Harbour got thrashed again by Canterbury....

harbour is embarrasing...they should be in div 2.

I would like to see harbour play east coast and
counties.

Harbour played like wimps, good to see Southland get up.
nice picking jah

i went to the southland game for free sat on 1/2 way in the stand thanks to my biggi media card muahahahahahahahaa suckers


and i can say is

hahahahah harbour u suck the big banana

as the title goes :-p

as u where

well picks please?


who is gana win this weekend?>

my picks are canterbury, auckland, waikato, north harbour and wellington with mid canterbury to cause a boilover and beat counties in the second division.






Just kidding about the last one.

Ive gone Cant 12-, Auck 12-,Waikato 13+, Harbour 13+ and BOP 12-

Wellngton lose a shocker every year so Im going with this weekend

true forest, but they already did that against southland.

*I wonder if its me or Forest justahalf is trying to wind up*

Oops sorry, that should have been maestro not forest, but the question is, who am I apologising too.

ha ha ha ha not me, fuck knows who Forest is anyway

Counties won! and thats all that farking matters!

Just slightly wrong on the wellington/bop score there maestro.

Oh yeah!!??

bring on the semis!