m-audio torque

has anyone had any experience with this product? have a friend who is in the process of purchasing it and im curious to hear peoples thoughts on it..

its stoopidly cheap compared to traktor and serato ($300 US).. hmm..

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/TorqConectiv.html

any advice appreciated.

chur chur!

borrowed a friends for a bit last year to have a squiz. Crap. The sound quality is the worst point, ok for home i guess, but i used it on a smallish club rig a couple of times and it just had no freq range at all. I ended up unplugging it a playing cds the second time. Was quite unstable as well, on the same laptop that i use Serato on with no probs. Wouldnt reccomend for anything other than home use.

sweet bro, chur for that!

think ill stick with the traktor plan as i will be using it out. although, it would be awesome if the whole thing crashed and left a silent club.. then everyone would have to get out their ipods and we could have a silent disco.

hey,i own torque and traktor.sound quality on both are good.have used torque on a 40kilowatt outdoor rig for 20000people and had no issues with bad sound.traktor has way more feature for way more money.if you intend to just play track to track,torque will do that well and at a good price.

really? i find that really hard to believe. Ssly, my bass frequencies almost did not exist using it.

stage one problem solving..

.. was it turned on?

chur, cuffed. i def want want traktor can offer.. but torque could be a good interim tool till i have the grand or so together!

Did you use it with cdj's or turntables?I work as a FOH engineer for one of the larger sound companies and have witnessed this problem once or twice before with some turntable/serato setups.We switched the tt's for some cdj's - the bass returned and the problem disappeared.Maybe some faulty preamps in the units?
A lack of adequate bus power from usb may also lead to bad frequency response/improper preamp function.Connect your unit to a direct mains adapter and see if that helps

yeh was vinyl, could have been the faulty pre amp thing for sure, as using serato the same way on the same rig was fine. Never tried it with CD's though. Dont have it anymore anyways, was just a loaner to test it, and went for Serato in the end.

I got torque with my M-audio xponent. Torque was ass, really poor quality in layout and in function. I went for traktor and haven't looked back! Am updating to traktor pro now, which is just awesome. Spend a little more, and get the software you want to do the job! Saves having to learn a new program too.
Go traktor for sure!

But, it obviously wouldn't have effected the line output from the interface, would have it?

Generally I wouldnt think timecode signal/audio would have a direct effect on the interface line output.As you know serato,traktor etc can be run using midi controller,keyboard or whatever,eliminating the input stage altogether.When the problem 1st happened we thought it was something to do with the software,but we set the interface unit to loop through directly to the mixer and played regular vinyl-the sound still lacked bass.So we removed the interface unit and connected the tt directly to the mixer pre-amp and the sound was perfect.We also connected a cdj to the unit and set it to loop directly to the mixer-sound was normal.So we tried the cdj with timecode and the audio from software interface was also normal.Only thing we could think of was a faulty pre-amp in the external interface unit somehow effecting the output stage when turned on.

Odd.

Well I'm just re-listening to a mix I made on TORQ yesterday and can't says I notice any sound issues, and that's records to 192K .WMA opn my iRiver...considering it's half the price of Serato (which was a good selling point when I had to invest in a laptop AND software in one hit) all in all, I'm fucking stoked with it!

Don't find the interface bad at all either...browser is sweet, searching for tracks in the database or finding them direct in folders/external HDDs, USB sticks etc instead of trolling the database is easy as pie, drag drop and you're away.

Serato/Traktor would have to be massively better, and I'm not sure in which way, in order to justify being twice the cost.

Two thumbs up from me.



Mostly you only get 1 hour sets at clubs here, so I wouldn't bother with laptop and setup for sets like that, just burn off CDs, but would be ace for long sets...so far, zero stability issues, though that was only a 1.5 hour session

Laptop is well above the recommended specs, bar the HDD RPM, but I couldn't even find laptops coming standard with 7200RPM drives

And as for interface, sorry, but this...



...don't look any better than...



...vertical wareforms??? Ugly...and the spinning platter things are just unnecessary clutter

Built in effects, easier looping and still has same amount of cue points

Don't scratch much, do you..

Serato interface is far superior. From a design/layout perspective I think your screenshots just proved that.

Vertical waveforms are just an option in the Display part of the setup menu btw, you can change them to horizontal.



The spinning platters actually have a function above just displaying track running times etc - the stripe changes colour providing a visual reference to the start of cue points.

Rane/Serato have a solid reputation (well, as far as time-code products go).

I think Torq is probably sweet for that low price, but you often hear of people shifting from Torq -> Serato. Not often the other way around.

been using it for 2 years, like all software had some teething issues, but has all the features and more for anyone, I use it with the xponent midi controller and run it into ableton as a channel, its rock solid, and have no hesitation using it at any gig big or small, so those who have dissed as home use, I will challenge anyone to a dual head to head, to be as creative with loops samples on the fly sample recording/playing as you can be with torq, Traktor is def getting there but you will need a big chunky top end laptop.

you'll get the haters, but find something you like that you can use and enjoy, I use Torq it is my tool of choice and I do know what Im taliking about, 19 years of vynil /software/production and have used all of them serato, itch, traktor, they all have pros and cons, I like torq. I alos beta test the software.

anyway have fun with what ever you choose. cheers G

The torq play thru problem you had. I had the same problem with traktor. Eventually it started cutting the audio too. Had multiple e-mail conversations with NI before I finally sent it back and found out the Audio interface hardware was faulty.

mate how do you rate the M-Audio Xponent? Please give us a run down -cheers

i'm selling my M-Audio Xponent if anyones keen.

They are awsome but dont use it much