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A Nelson man has admitted having regular sex with a goat. Nelson District Court was told yesterday that the 39-year-old was caught after the owner heard the goat bleating in its shed.


Police were called and found the defendant leaving the shed.

He admitted having sexual intercourse with the goat, and said he had been told about the animal by friends who had also had sex with it.

The following month, the defendant again entered the property and was preparing to have intercourse with the goat when he was disturbed by police.

He admitted having sex with the goat regularly and told police he needed to be admitted to a mental hospital.
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wtf bauhahahah
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Worng wrong wrong! What about the friends of his who were doing the same?
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now that is appalling - what a disgrace to man kind - he should be shot, poor animal!
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The goat might have enjoyed it.

I find it ironic they people who are happy to eat animals make a big deal about things like this. Don't you think your priorities are a bit screwed?
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Oh Dear :-O

That's just wrong!! Always knew there wasn't something quite right about those Nelson hippies Razz (j/k)

Anyone know what the sentance for beastiality is?
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if anyone as much as bites @ justahalf's post....

I'll say this much however, using that rationale, can we eat whatever we fuck then?
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The questions we should be asking is: did the goat have horns?
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but was the sex consenting?
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hehe he's a really cool man
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You've goat to be joking, right? Mmmmm, my mate told me he met a really nice little rockmelon the other day. Her skins a bit rough but on the inside she's sooo sweet.
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why couldnt the man just pay a hooker to get off if he needed a piece of meat that bad?!
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omg, that is a shocker, his mates told him aye, yeah right.
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The goat was free and better looking than some of the hookers you see.

shaolin - my point is killing an animal is worse than fucking it. In fact, for all we know the goat may not suffer at all from this guy.

dick - well it never said no.
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Under the law i dont think its a crime against the goat that he fucked it, but dammit its just wrong! Its like pissing in a public place it doesnt cause a victim but its offensive to society as the law puts it.
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he needs an Auckland woman.

500 SL Mercedes,
80 Ft yacht, and a box at Eden park.

'reckon.
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im inclined to agree that murder is far(m) worse than rape.. and yea, maybe its not rape..
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The interesting part is he was told about the goat by friends who had also shagged it.
This goat is nothing but a tramp!
I will no longer had goats milk or goats cheese.

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not to say that i would sooner shag a cow than eat one..
some time ago someone decided that killing an animal is better than sexing one... perhaps because sexual relationships were much 'easier'
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... and further in the article it mentions that he was charged with committing an indecent act with a goat, stealing a goat, and trespass.....

haha wot a fuckn mental Razz
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I think maybe he is mentally retarded and has been set up by his "friends". Pretty fucking lame of them if this is the case.
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but the fact is we live to kill it doesnt matter what you eat cause it will be killed in the process so get off your high horse and accept the fact that we are killers and have the metabolism to boot Razz

ahh well he has admitted to being a nutter so case closed
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Bloody Nelson nutters eh!
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(P.S I am a nutter from Nelson)
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Bob: I'm pretty sure there's a law against bestiality.

justahalf: That's a matter of opinion, but they're essentially two different constructs. Killing an animal serves our inherent need for food & therefore survival.

What purpose does fucking a goat serve?
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hmm at least he admitted it you know..
but then whats the point??
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This sounds like a little joke to me. Seriously, where was the source and do you really think this would be in a newspaper?
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Haha,

I hope the Aussies dont get hold of this!
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Poor guy, he can't get anyone better to sleep with Razz
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I'd be really worried if he could!
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Classic, and he never will now.
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Shaolin: my point is the law veiws it as a crime against morality not a crime against the goat.
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Maybe if the goat could speak the law would differ Very Happy

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Maybe then the goat could consent to it or decline to participate.
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regardless, it would still be immoral.
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....from a purely humane perspective that is.
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You can survive perfectly easily without killing animals. You eat meat cause you like it, this guy fucked a goat cause he liked it. Which would you rather have happen to you, be raped or murdered.

Agree with bob about the fact the law has nothing to do with the suffering of the goat. Maybe the guy just wanted to have a kid.
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You can also survive pretty easily without 99% of your material possessions.

justahalf, would it be wrong of me to presume that you're a vegan or a vegetarian of some sort?
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By existing you are depriving animals or habitat food etc the electricity you use is causing other habitat loss. We have had this discussion before and i dont want to get back into it but we are designed to eat meat AND plants (canine teeth plus molars) Plus we derive many essential nutrients from meat that if it wasnt for modern food techniques would be very difficult for us to get otherwise. You can deny it all you like jah but eating meat isnt inherentally wrong. If you want to argue it we can drag up the old thread.

Killing the goat to eat it isnt murder and yes i would rather kill or even murder the goat than have sex with it.
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justahalf- i think you're right. a hooker lives in my building and my god is she an ugly site! such a dirty bitch too. everytime i walk passed her apartment i can smell filth and cigarette smoke. she never cleans her windows either! filthy cow
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yeah i reckon this is a very sad story.....
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Totally with you on this justahalf.

I'm not one to condone goat "loving" but ....

If eating meat isn't against the law then why should this be?

Plainly the law is making a moral judgment, and is that really the place of the law? Shouldn't the law just be there to stop us doing things that adversely affect others?


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lol. would you eat a vegetable that someone had had sex with? I would prefer my animal meat to be similarily untouched. People having sex with animals be unhealthy for both the animal and humans - allowing disease to cross between species.

Affect on others is a very wide description, what if that person passed on a disease to others?
(Animals that are eaten have to pass health checks to pass as fit for human consumption.)

I guess the law is a throw back to religious laws but i cant see anyone standing up for law reform.


Another way to look at this tho is that that goat wasnt his to have sex with. If the owner had wanted to have sex with it there probably wouldnt have been an issue (whos going to complain to the police?)

Do any of you vegetarians own pets that you feed meat? would it be wrong for me to own a cat that i fed meat even if i didnt eat meat?
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Yeah, interesting points Bob.

I don't think the law against bestiality is there to prevent disease spreading. You wouldn't eat an animal that a human had had sex with, yet presumably you would eat an animal that another animal had had sex with? Can we infer from that that you have a preference for indirect contact with animal genitalia rather than human?!

You're right, it is a throwback to religious laws. Our law and government are generaally secular in just about all other areas so I don't know why there should be this kind of moralising in the law.

The reason there's no one standing up for law reform has nothing to do with lack of merit in the arguments - it's purely that it aint exactly a vote winner!!!
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I agree with you about not wanting to do the whole vegetarian debate again bob. I don't have a problem with bestiality being llegal and people who eat meat agreeing with that. I do have a problem with people who eat meat saying "what a poor goat having someone do that to it" when they are happy to have animals killed for them to eat. As you have pointed out, having a problem with the morality of his actions is more the point than any trauma to the goat.
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When did the argument at hand ever deviate from morality?

According to a previous statement of yours, "killing an animal is worse then fucking it". Yet, if this were based on a moral stand point, and you have no problem with those people that kill animals & subsequently eat their meat, it'd make you a hypocrite.

From a purely moral point of view, it's perfectly natural for people that eat meat to find bestiality immoral. I agree however that they shouldn't say things like "oh, poor goat" -- when from the goats perspective murder > rape. Then again that's irrelevant since neither you or I are goats.

Mendoza & Bob, you both seem confused.

Secular law, like its predecessor, religious doctrine, has its basis in morality. The law is there to provide a clear distinction of what it perceives to be "right or wrong", which is exactly what morality is.

Bob, if I were the owner of a dog, and enact upon it viscious acts of cruelty and torture, but no-one were to complain to the police. Would that make it right?

Ownership is irrelevant, especially where it regards a sentient being.

Where it regards law reform, what possible reason would you have for law reform? Bestiality would only be perceived as an archaic "religious throwback" if people no longer thought of it as being immoral & wrong.

Please feel free to state if you are of this opinion!!
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this reminds me of that story in ecstasy by irvine welsh
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I was stating as a side issue that if the owner had been having sex with the goat the police probably wouldnt have been called, and that you could almost (not under any law or whatever) say that the guy was being done for having sex with another mans goat, as the law doesnt recognise the goat as being sentient.

It was not meant as a serious arguement and im sorry you took it as such shaolin.

You might get done for cruelty to animals.

Where do you draw the line at sentient beings? insects? rodents? mammals?
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All i can say is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
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Why say it then?

...It'd make no difference to me whether it was the owner or someone else fuckin' the goat -- it's the act itself that's irreprehensible.

But I ain't no narc, so yeah, guess you're right - the police would not have been called.

Interesting point regarding the definition of sentient beings. It's not an easy distinction to make, personally I'd class the majority of animals as sentient - that is, they are capable of feelings and some even of thought.

Here are few excerpts from the Crimes Act 1961.

Bestiality ---
(1) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who commits bestiality.

(2) This offence is complete upon penetration.

Whatmore....

Having sex with someone else's animal without the owner's permission is a crime against property, the same as if someone "borrowed" his horse to haul their carriage without his permission.
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This is a classic thread. I wish I had as much time as you guys!
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That last bit was kind of what i was getting at.

Smile

Possibly frazzle, idle minds i guess.
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RedBeast: www.nzcity.co.nz posted the story
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I wouldn't class any animals as sentient beings... even some people hardly pass as one. Smile
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maaaa!
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A similar thing happened in Upper Hutt earlier this year only the guy was tampering with horses instead of goats... insane! I'm having very very bad visuals!!!!! hehe
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Or the year when the 'Silverstream' sacndal went down with the borders and the sheep... this country does not get its reputation for nothing
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I read in a kinslea ((SP?)what ever his name is) institute book that 48 of rural americans had thier first sexual experience with an animal, now i dont know what the definition of sexual experience was but damn thats a high number we should change all those jokes to americans Smile
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that should be 48%
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how about eating and sexing the same animal.. at the same time!!?
thats some crazy shit
-i cant back that one up Wink