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So many of you probably know Louis CK introduced his own website recently where people can buy (for $5), an unrestricted/region-free copy of his latest show 'Live at Beacon Theatre' which he wrote/directed/edited himself, rather than going through a big company and selling it to them. Here's a statement he made about his results. Pretty interesting, I really hope more artists start doing this!

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People of Earth (minus the ones who don't give a shit about
this): it's been amazing to conduct this experiment with you. The
experiment was: if I put out a brand new standup special at a
drastically low price ($5) and make it as easy as possible to
buy, download and enjoy, free of any restrictions, will everyone
just go and steal it? Will they pay for it? And how much money
can be made by an individual in this manner?

It's been 4 days. A lot of people are asking me how it's going.
I've been hesitant to share the actual figures, because there's
power in exclusive ownership of information. What I didn't expect
when I started this was that people would not only take part in
this experiment, they would be invested in it and it would be
important to them. It's been amazing to see people in large
numbers advocating this idea. So I think it's only fair that you
get to know the results. Also, it's just really cool and fun and
I'm dying to tell everybody. I told my Mom, I told three friends,
and that wasn't nearly enough. So here it is.

First of all, this was a premium video production, shot with six
cameras over two performances at the Beacon Theater, which is a
high-priced elite Manhattan venue. I directed this video myself
and the production of the video cost around $170,000. (This was
largely paid for by the tickets bought by the audiences at both
shows). The material in the video was developed over months on
the road and has never been seen on my show (LOUIE) or on any
other special. The risks were thus: every new generation of
material I create is my income, it's like a farmer's annual crop.
The time and effort on my part was far more than if I'd done it
with a big company. If I'd done it with a big company, I would
have a guarantee of a sizable fee, as opposed to this way, where
I'm actually investing my own money.

The development of the website, which needed to be a very robust,
reliable and carefully constructed website, was around $32,000.
We worked for a number of weeks poring over the site to make sure
every detail would give buyers a simple, optimal and humane
experience for buying the video. I edited the video around the
clock for the weeks between the show and the launch.

The show went on sale at noon on Saturday, December 10th. 12
hours later, we had over 50,000 purchases and had earned
$250,000, breaking even on the cost of production and website. As
of Today, we've sold over 110,000 copies for a total of over
$500,000. Minus some money for PayPal charges etc, I have a
profit around $200,000 (after taxes $75.5Cool. This is less than I
would have been paid by a large company to simply perform the
show and let them sell it to you, but they would have charged you
about $20 for the video. They would have given you an encrypted
and regionally restricted video of limited value, and they would
have owned your private information for their own use. They would
have withheld international availability indefinitely. This way,
you only paid $5, you can use the video any way you want, and you
can watch it in Dublin, whatever the city is in Belgium, or
Dubai. I got paid nice, and I still own the video (as do you).
You never have to join anything, and you never have to hear from
us again.

I really hope people keep buying it a lot, so I can have
shitloads of money, but at this point I think we can safely say
that the experiment really worked. If anybody stole it, it wasn't
many of you. Pretty much everybody bought it. And so now we all
get to know that about people and stuff. I'm really glad I put
this out here this way and I'll certainly do it again. If the
trend continues with sales on this video, my goal is that i can
reach the point where when I sell anything, be it videos, CDs or
tickets to my tours, I'll do it here and I'll continue to follow
the model of keeping my price as far down as possible, not
overmarketing to you, keeping as few people between you and me as
possible in the transaction. (Of course i reserve the right to go
back on all of this and sign a massive deal with a company that
pays me fat coin and charges you straight up the ass.). (This is
you: yes Louie. And we'll all enjoy torrenting that content. You
fat sweaty dolt).

I probably sound kind of crazy right now. It's been a really fun
and intense few days. This video was paid for by people who
bought tickets, and then bought by people who wanted to see that
same show. I got to do exactly the show I wanted, and exactly the
show you wanted.

I also got an education. And everything i learned are things i
was happy to learn. I learned that people are interested in what
happens and shit (i didn't go to college)

I learned that money can be a lot of things. It can be something
that is hoarded, fought over, protected, stolen and withheld. Or
it can be like an energy, fueled by the desire, will, creative
interest, need to laugh, of large groups of people. And it can be
shuffled and pushed around and pooled together to fuel a common
interest, jokes about garbage, penises and parenthood.

I want to thank Blair Breard who produced this video and produces
my series LOUIE, and I want to thank Caspar and Giles at Version
Industries, who created the website.

I hope with all of my heart that I stay funny. Otherwise this all
goes to hell. Please have a safe and happy holiday, and thank you
again for all this crazy shit.

Sincerely, Louis C.K.


The website, for those interested: https://buy.louisck.net/
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yeah pretty cool realisation of a solid (not unique nor new) idea

power to the people not the corporations!





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Yup, great stuff. I even saw comments from people asking "how can I pay MORE?"

Also some good stuff in here if you haven't seen it: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/n9tef/hi_im_louis_ck_and_this_is_a_thing/


I liked:
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I think it's really interesting that i brought the price so close to stealing and made the movie so easy to get and made it so clear that it's a human offering it that it sparked a debate about pirating.
to steal from someone and not feel bad, you either have to be a sociopath or view the act differently. One way is to remove "Someone" from the equation. You're not stealing from a person. Big companies do a lot to help people view them as less than human. I heard a speach by Noam Chomsky who said that corporations are like super humans. They cannot be hurt like a human can and they never die. They are not succeptible to scrutiny or accountability. this makes them more profitable. If companies want to enjoy these benifits to some degree they have to live with what else comes with being not human. you miss out on compassion, forgiveness, comraderie, empathy, trust all kinds of shit.
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kris_b said:

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to steal from someone and not feel bad, you either have to be a sociopath or view the act differently. One way is to remove "Someone" from the equation. You're not stealing from a person.


Yeah this is a good point. I steal music all the time (though I pay for everything I use for djing!) but I've been lucky enough over the years to meet some musicians who's work I admire, and I make a point not to steal their stuff.

Unfortunately for louie ck he is still lacking that personal connection (and I am poor) so I still stole his show.
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refer to switzerland for an intelligent take on dl'ing 'illegally' and the studies that ALL point to the fact that the largest consumers of 'stolen' media are also the largest consumers of paid for media

I don't find louie funny enough to pay nor steal but respect his taking ownership of his own business affairs
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So

Louis CK already rich gets richer

And all the salary earners who would have earned a living wage from a $20 price in distribution etc, dont get a crumb

Yes this is a much fairer system. Even MORE of the money spent on entertainment will go to already very rich people and none of it will trickle down to the "little people"

People = retards especially people like Yak and kris_b who pretend to be socialists
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Bn1 said:
kris_b said:

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to steal from someone and not feel bad, you either have to be a sociopath or view the act differently. One way is to remove "Someone" from the equation. You're not stealing from a person.


Yeah this is a good point. I steal music all the time (though I pay for everything I use for djing!) but I've been lucky enough over the years to meet some musicians who's work I admire, and I make a point not to steal their stuff.


That is fucking retarded. Like the "don't steal NZ made movies " shit. Either it's wrong or it isn't. It's not wrong if it's someone you like but right otherwise
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vadinho said:
So

Louis CK already rich gets richer

And all the salary earners who would have earned a living wage from a $20 price in distribution etc, dont get a crumb

Yes this is a much fairer system. Even MORE of the money spent on entertainment will go to already very rich people and none of it will trickle down to the "little people"

People = retards especially people like Yak and kris_b who pretend to be socialists


So, out of the million he made to date:
$250k covered costs
$250k he gave to his staff as bonuses - those little people you talk of
$250k was donated to a range of charities, he picked ones that his followers suggested
$250k was his payday - which is still less than he would have gotten paid doing it the conventional way

I'm not saying he's struggling, but Louis CK certainly isn't "hollywood fatcat" rich. His TV show has one of the smallest budgets in the industry. Look at the Talking Funny special with him, Seinfeld, Chris Rock and Ricky Gervais. The former are utterly rolling in cash, Gervais does pretty well but would be nowhere near the first two, and CK would be bringing up the rear by a long way.
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Ahhh, he put out a statement:

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hi. So it's been about 12 days since the thing started and yesterday we hit the crazy number. One million dollars. That's a lot of money. Really too much money. I've never had a million dollars all of a sudden. and since we're all sharing this experience and since it's really your money, I wanted to let you know what I'm doing with it. People are paying attention to what's going on with this thing. So I guess I want to set an example of what you can do if you all of a sudden have a million dollars that people just gave to you directly because you told jokes.

So I'm breaking the million into four pieces.

the first 250k is going to pay back what the special cost to produce and the website to build.

The second 250k is going back to my staff and the people who work for me on the special and on my show. I'm giving them a big fat bonus.

The third 280k is going to a few different charities. They are listed below in case you'd like to donate to them also. Some of these i learned about through friends, some were reccomended through twitter.

The Fistula Foundation
The Pablove Foundation
charity: water
Kiva
Green Chimneys
That leaves me with 220k for myself. Some of that will pay my rent and will care for my childen. The rest I will do terrible, horrible things with and none of that is any of your business. In any case, to me, 220k is enough out of a million.

I never viewed money as being "my money" I always saw it as "The money" It's a resource. if it pools up around me then it needs to be flushed back out into the system.

The thing is still on sale. I hope folks keep buying it. If I make another million, I'll give more of it away. I'll let you know when that happens because I like you getting to know what happened to your 5 dollars and bringing awareness to the bla bla bla.

Okay I really gotta go now. Thank you again. I will now stop bugging you. I really hate being in the news this much so I'm gonna just disappear for a while.
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Kiva is actually really interesting, if you haven't seen it before it's worthwhile looking into:
http://www.kiva.org

For the lazy: microloans.