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ok i know about party pills but they gust don't compare to the actual thing. is there anything out there that i dont know about, and if so where can i get it????????????????????
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Natural Energy you can get that from yourself
Sugar/caffine etc : V,RedBull other drinks of this nature. any local dairy etc

i prefer the first one Very Happy
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duno if iam right but the good stuff and london underground are chemical, but legal?? anyway i duno where to get them might wana look it up
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www.thegoodstuff.co.nz this stuff works Wink
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Hummer
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hummer is legal? Confused
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Certainly is

its pure bzp, the stuff you find in frenzy etc

Very Happy

Better of taking frenzy or whatever cos it had aminos in it which protect your body a bit Smile
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lol I know what hummer is ive had it before Razz

just didnt know if it was legal or not
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hummer is legal because it is just pure bzp...well its meant to be anyway...


if ya wanna feel stoned for three days...get about 6 or 7 whole nutmegs...put them in a bag or something then smash them with a hammer till they are pieces about the size of a match head...then swallow the whole lot with something to drink...it will take hours and hours to come on...then you will trip out

look it up at www.erowid.org
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why do you need "enhancements" to have fun?

it is more fun to go out with your mates and remember the night imo
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ruthieq said:
why do you need "enhancements" to have fun?

it is more fun to go out with your mates and remember the night imo


exactly, i havnt taken anything for almost 2 years now and ive had sum gr8 nights out latly Very Happy
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There's lots of ways but for the sake of keeping people safe i won't tell you Laughing

just have a look on www.erowid.org and have a read and i'm sure you'll improve your reading skills and vocabulary base haha, cause there's so much reading you can do there, and it's will be beneficial for you too.

also, check the hempstore, they have lots of legal alternative highs.
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ruthieq said:
why do you need "enhancements" to have fun?

it is more fun to go out with your mates and remember the night imo




who says that we NEED them? I have had great nights out on nothing, i just choose to take them every now and then, why not enhance the experience when you can?
Also have never had a night out that I cant remember, if you are going that hard then yes I agree there is something wrong with you but personally I have never had that experience.


heh yea that nutmeg trick is great, i think its easier though to grate the nutmeg and mix it into chocolate milk like wave or something, tastes alot better to.

and as for hummer, I know its pure bzp but I didnt think it was legal to have it in the pure form and in those quantities thats all but then im not a huge fan of bzp Smile
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mErf said:
hummer is legal because it is just pure bzp...well its meant to be anyway...


if ya wanna feel stoned for three days...get about 6 or 7 whole nutmegs...put them in a bag or something then smash them with a hammer till they are pieces about the size of a match head...then swallow the whole lot with something to drink...it will take hours and hours to come on...then you will trip out

look it up at www.erowid.org


Have you actually tried this before? It just made me feel like i was extremely dizzy and extremely tired for three days and everyone around me looked terrifying and looking in a mirror was particularly disturbing (you should never do this on drugs though).

This is the only drug ive tried i don't think i'll be repeating the obligatory 3 times (to see if it has anything to offer) just because its disgusting (especially if u try to wash it down with alcohol) and extremely mentally and physically tiring (and you cannot kill the 3 day trip).
Though maybe its worth trying because even though i have described it this way to some people it will still sound appealing (because looking back on scary experiences in the past can be funny.. after all) so if you're going to do it make sure you have:
At least 3 days without any reponsibilites ie school (which is ..pretty horrible)
Make sure you do not:
Drive (this is very, very difficult)
Do it at a party and have all your friends force you to go walking around town in the middle of the night pretty much alone.. especially if crossing roads is involved...

I would say it would be best to do with a friend in a room while you both watch movies/explore your headspace/listen to music etc... though unfortunately i just went to sleep when i should have been doing this... all i got was a few crappy cevs anyway...

Other 'legal' alternatives:
Cough syrup (DXM- dextromethorphan) - this is a dissociative a la ketamine though a legal one and you should do this under similar circumstances (set/setting) to nutmeg... make sure your cough syrup only contains dextromethorphan though as an active ingredient or you could kill yourself.. do some research first.. on erowid.org..
I found drinking a bottle of vicks 44 and walking around town/being driven around town was quite enjoyable... felt like i was walking in a dream.. though not particularly enlightening and it is not a stimulatory high.

However when i drank benedryl? which is stronger i simply spent most of the night vomitting and such... so its a hit and miss affair... and again not a drug i can imagine using much in the future.

Nitrous - this is only good for a quick high .. but i have found it goes particuarly well with a drug such as party pills (the ones that make u feel happy/trippy rather than hyper like rapture.. and a night of good music like sigur ros/shpongle and some trippy games/visuals and a few close friends) however... i cannot now do nitrious anymore as every time its the same thing.... i forget who i am and what life is... then i try to remember and get angry and hate it when i do remember... hence i hate nitrous and have decided never to do it again.

Party pills - the good stuff is exactly the same as rapture (pretty much) which is my favourite cept much cheaper... they're okay then again i've never tried real ecstacy so i woudlnt' know...
1st time - with a few friends and good music was great
2nd time - at a freinds 18th party he was playing commerical pop music and rap.. stuff i don't even like sober... definately did not go with this.. just wanted night to end
3rd time - (like described with nitrous) in a cold setting extremely good time.. i even puked once and for some reason it was an extremely enjoyable 'purging' of the bad ...things... in my body i even have mild cevs off them.. including one that involved a shooting game i had been playing (bad idea... violent games do not go with this) called rez and whenever i closed my eyes or looked at black the little ..missiles your supposed to shoot would be coming at me... then i did a whippet and let them take me over ... quite a nice moment..
4th time - i took 5 esps.. without nitrous this time and was still quite strong though even though i was at a party i just ended up going outside and playing in the bushes with my friends....(not in a dirty way) then i took 4 more to try to keep it going but this did not work and just made me extremely tired and unable to sleep for 24 hours.

Others I havent tried:
Morning glory seeds (can't find them) but the right ones contain LSA a similar compound to LSD i'm going to order these online when i turn 18 in a month, hopefully they'll compare to LSD at a much cheaper price.

I'm sorry if i sound like a total druggie here.. i dont' actually do them that often.. i just like to do a wide range... and btw none of these legal drugs compare to the the illegal ones i've tried.. after all if they were actually that good, the government would have to make them illegal wouldn't they? can't have too many people enjoying themselves..
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Fossa said:
Have you actually tried this before? It just made me feel like i was extremely dizzy and extremely tired for three days and everyone around me looked terrifying and looking in a mirror was particularly disturbing (you should never do this on drugs though).

This is the only drug ive tried i don't think i'll be repeating the obligatory 3 times (to see if it has anything to offer) just because its disgusting (especially if u try to wash it down with alcohol) and extremely mentally and physically tiring (and you cannot kill the 3 day trip).
Though maybe its worth trying because even though i have described it this way to some people it will still sound appealing (because looking back on scary experiences in the past can be funny.. after all) so if you're going to do it make sure you have:
At least 3 days without any reponsibilites ie school (which is ..pretty horrible)
Make sure you do not:
Drive (this is very, very difficult)
Do it at a party and have all your friends force you to go walking around town in the middle of the night pretty much alone.. especially if crossing roads is involved...

I would say it would be best to do with a friend in a room while you both watch movies/explore your headspace/listen to music etc... though unfortunately i just went to sleep when i should have been doing this... all i got was a few crappy cevs anyway...

Other 'legal' alternatives:
Cough syrup (DXM- dextromethorphan) - this is a dissociative a la ketamine though a legal one and you should do this under similar circumstances (set/setting) to nutmeg... make sure your cough syrup only contains dextromethorphan though as an active ingredient or you could kill yourself.. do some research first.. on erowid.org..
I found drinking a bottle of vicks 44 and walking around town/being driven around town was quite enjoyable... felt like i was walking in a dream.. though not particularly enlightening and it is not a stimulatory high.

However when i drank benedryl? which is stronger i simply spent most of the night vomitting and such... so its a hit and miss affair... and again not a drug i can imagine using much in the future.


yes i have taken nutmeg...i think im into double digits...ten times maybe...and dxm probably the same...

nutmeg: too right...you cannot have anything to do for three days...no responsibilities...you shouldnt drive (i have, its bad) and you will look like crap...i enjoy it and have found many interesting things with it...doing it as a group is much more enjoyable

dxm: ive always had fun on this...always need to smoke a lil...i spew up every time at about 40 minutes in and then i feel fine...lasts a good three to four hours with after effects lasting for a day afterwards...

and seriously...if anyone under 18 is even considering trying any such substances i would advise totally against it...theyre not good for you...and you have the rest of your lives to try such experiences...

if you really wanna try dxm, nutmeg etc. give me an email merfrules@hotmail.com and i will give you some tips and advice...

harm prevention people!!!
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the feind said:
ok i know about party pills but they gust don't compare to the actual thing. is there anything out there that i dont know about, and if so where can i get it????????????????????


Well if you interested in Party pills...look up

www.herbalhits.com
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dxm.... Froggy

BUT be careful.. to much can become scary...

and i dont advise nutmeg... not for me...

and i dont advise drugs full stop...

but hey its ur life
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raversparadise said:
dxm.... Froggy

hahah DXM Laughing Froggy Music
yea but b careful with it

yea shouldnt do drugs at all
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nos is such a waste of money guys Crying or Very sad
I got very drunk and went and spent most of my previous weeks pay in some random nos/herbal lounge thing!
yeah it was a hell of alot of fun i'd say worth the money Mr. Green but for one night bloody expensive Confused
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Whatever you do, do not try active absinthe.

Mixing red bull and moccona does not give it mere mmmm, either, although it does look like a very frothy coffee with steamed/frothed milk. Tastes horrible.

Do not ask me why I know these things.
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liamf said:
Whatever you do, do not try active absinthe.


Dare I ask why not?
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Alcohol always works!
Taking lots of Dance Pills does too (not recommended)...
Mixing them works even better but its very nasty the next day...
NOS was also sold at the last GodsKitchen too but I dont think it is technically 'legal'...
Hmmm thinks of other ways...

Nope thats all I can come up with Very Happy
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have a wank, oh wait, you all do it anyways.
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Stay away from nutmeg, psychoactive dosages are toxic to the liver.

Check out www.decadence.co.nz
They sell a wide range of safer herbal highs and accessories. Some of my favourites include Mph, Mexican tripping weed, Kava, Galangal, and Wormwood.
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ruthieq said:
why do you need "enhancements" to have fun?

it is more fun to go out with your mates and remember the night imo


or ya could get drunk and not remember the night at all..aint that right Car
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clip said:
ruthieq said:
why do you need "enhancements" to have fun?

it is more fun to go out with your mates and remember the night imo


or ya could get drunk and not remember the night at all..aint that right Car


yeah, because the boozieq nickname came out of nowhere right?
Very Happy
damn 3 pint lightweights Laughing