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Today, after months of trying to sort this issue out, I've placed a complaint about Vodafone with Commerce Commission.

Basically I have not heard back from anyone after calling many times and leaving my contact details with CSRs for any managers to get back to me about credit limit issue.

I have never had such a appalling service from anyone in my life. Myself being in service industry, I can not see how anyone can get away with shit like this.


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I just had a $2200 bill land on my table yesterday because of raoming fucken issues and the fact that I was given the wrong information Neutral

Not happy with the bastards!

Music
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Heh. i need to change my call plan, which they cannot do over the phone. i have to go into a store...

i'm trying to figure what the next excuse will be when i finally make the big trip
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LOL @ Vodafone and how they have lost all the goodwill they had.

A few years ago everyone sang their praises and people were laughed at for being with Telecom.
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/me handed in her notice today.

blower
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yeah, way to royally fuck things up vodafone.
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Tiger_lily said:
/me handed in her notice today.

blower


:C blower
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Best feeling ever Very Happy
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harvey said:
LOL @ Vodafone and how they have lost all the goodwill they had.

A few years ago everyone sang their praises and people were laughed at for being with Telecom.


Reading all that I was just thinking the same thing, I remember when it was cool to shit on TC and everybody was with VF. Weird.
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Why have they gone so bad?

And Roman that sux heaps dude.
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* Issue with a bill (2x the size of normal, I was happy to pay it but couldn't figure out what was wrong because I didn't think I'd made as many of the high priced calls as I obviously had)

* Tried a couple of times to get through to CSR, long wait times

* Got a message that my bill was overdue - fair point, but I wanted to sort it out before I paid it

*19 Dec finally get a CSR who has more competency than a newt. Very helpful, promises she will get back to me (via phone!) to discuss or at least let me know if I am correct or incorrect.

* Didn't hear back, assume this is because of holidays and backlog, decide to give it till [this week]

* End of last week, bam, 'restricted' service Mad

Now she promised me that nothing would be done until the bill had been reviewed. If she had said 'Please call in the first week of January' I would have done that.

It wasn't even a very big bill (like $360 or something, not like I was making massive charges) and I have been a customer for over 10 years.

Not impressed.
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Voda do suck a bit. I've been with them for ten year also and wanted to know about roaming to China. I've roamed heaps of times but thought I'd enquite as to which network was the best to roam with when there...

They said I'd need to pay a bond/up-front sort of thing. I said, but if I hadn't called you and just roamed it would have been fine - so in calling you for advice to make my trip easier you're taking the opportunity to inconvenience me. WTF?

I just said, I'm not paying anything up-front - my bills are always paid. If my phone is restricted overseas I'll sue you for interfering with my ability to conduct business... bla bla. They then say: we've looked at your history and have decided you're fine to travel and pay by bill as usual. (which I've done for years and years with no problems already anyway)

They're so retarded sometimes it's not funny.

R
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I'm porting my number to Telecom.

The only downside to this is that I have to get one of their handsets at my cost... This sux cause a) their handsets are shit and b) it's an additional cost to me.

Does anyone know if any of those PI handsets can be used on Telecom mobile network??
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no. PI = GSM only afaik.

telecom should be able to do you a deal for a free or cheap handset if you're going on contract.
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Roman_K said:
I'm porting my number to Telecom.

The only downside to this is that I have to get one of their handsets at my cost... This sux cause a) their handsets are shit and b) it's an additional cost to me.

Does anyone know if any of those PI handsets can be used on Telecom mobile network??


Just grab one from Trade me or something hun...

Guess it depends how posh you wanna go...

I feel like such a sad geek i spend like $20 on my phone a month.
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Yeah, cheapie is the way to go me thinks. It sux cause I'm so used of my beloved Nokia... Crying or Very sad
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Welkom to the dark side


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lol RobW you must have spoken to someone who really had no clue. Paying bond up front? wtf? That's only if you are prepay for a roaming application fee....
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Roman_K said:
Today, after months of trying to sort this issue out, I've placed a complaint about Vodafone with Commerce Commission.

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hopefully you have more luck than I did with my last complaint to them

"limited enforcement budget"

"not enough detriment"

etc

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BTW guys, all the shit you're saying that is wrong with Vodafone?

It's either as bad or worse with Telecom Smile

Don't kid yourself. For a second Smile
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we do live in the third world

well not really cause teleco service is no doubt better in them nations
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it's probably due to high marketing budgets and locating themselves in the market in an unbundled local loop world vs investment in infrastructure
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Night Rider said:
it's probably due to high marketing budgets and locating themselves in the market in an unbundled local loop world vs investment in infrastructure


no, it's not.
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ok so what is it then?
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NR makes one post that's not a terrible attempt at a headline pun, nor a ridiculously obscure lyric, and gets shot down.

Shame.
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Night Rider said:
ok so what is it then?


none of your business.












what strobe says is correct also.
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PFunk said:
NR makes one post that's not a terrible attempt at a headline pun, nor a ridiculously obscure lyric, and gets shot down.

Shame.


what? you didn't like my trouser snake lyrics?

shame
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Roman_K said:
Yeah, cheapie is the way to go me thinks. It sux cause I'm so used of my beloved Nokia... Crying or Very sad


Some alright Nokias on Telecom, not to Vodafone level, but not that shabby
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kris_b said:
what strobe says is correct also.


More often than not, lolz Wink
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Ive gone off them since my company phone was switched from Telecom. Literally the day after we changed my dropped calls went from 1 every now and then to 1 or 2 every day.
Not to mention (and this, admittedly, may be due to our IT guy getting royally owned on contract negotiation) my first bill being about $150 more than my average Telecom bill.
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Thats weird I never have a dropped calls or anything. My flatmate however has coverage issues on Telescum.

I actually put it down to individual phones rather than the network..
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No dropped calls with 3G turned off. Lots with it turned on. It has been a while since I used 3G for long enough to know though.
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PhunkyDave said:
Thats weird I never have a dropped calls or anything. My flatmate however has coverage issues on Telescum.

I actually put it down to individual phones rather than the network..


Yeah with so many phones you get as many variables and I've had plenty.
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Done!

Just went to a Telecom store and got myself a $400 phone for $200 with costs spread over 12 (added to my monthly plan fee). Number is also ported. Didn't cost me anything either.

Happy so far. Smile
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The teething problems Telecom customers are going to have over the next couple of years will make the sort of technical issues above seem like nothing. They're giving up on CDMA because phone manufacturers are not supporting it anymore.. they're abandoning it in droves. I think there are something like six or seven brands only now that will make CDMA phones compared to 35 who make GSM/GPRS ones. And the cost of getting phones set-up for the local network is almost nil for GSM (sim-card phones) but tens of thousands for CDMA phones.

Imagine in the next couple of years when Telecom has to tell their customers: your phone wont work soon.. sorry, but you'll have to buy a new phone.

R
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Telstra is doing it?
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a) they already had a trial run with the 025 switch-off
b) they are already starting to bring in worldmode phones (cdma and gsm) and those customers are getting SIM cards already.
c) the vast majority of voda's technical issues have been caused by totally replacing their entire CRM system. telecom don't have to do that.
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RobW said:

Imagine in the next couple of years when Telecom has to tell their customers: your phone wont work soon.. sorry, but you'll have to buy a new phone.


I reckon if they perform a gradual migration it wont be an issue.. people don't really keep phones more than a couple of years anyway and I had a feeling most would prefer a GSM phone anyway?

Not sure how it will affect Woosh customers though but I think the modems are duel band.
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woosh is W-CDMA, piggybacking on the vodafone network, not telecom.

"W-CDMA was developed by NTT DoCoMo as the air interface for their 3G network FOMA. Later NTT DoCoMo submitted the specification to the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) as a candidate for the international 3G standard known as IMT-2000. The ITU eventually accepted W-CDMA as part of the IMT-2000 family of 3G standards, as an alternative to CDMA2000, EDGE, and the short range DECT system. Later, W-CDMA was selected as the air interface for UMTS, the 3G successor to GSM."
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When Telecom eventually swaps to GSM phones will that also mean a much better range of handsets will come with it?

I've had my Telecom phone for almost three years now and I've never had a problem with it.

In saying that, I've never REALLY had a problem with my Vodafone either, but I'm a pretty low user - i only txt and am not on any type of plan.

I will be very happy if Telecom gets some cool new handsets. That's the only crappy thing about being a Telecom customer as far as I'm concerned Very Happy
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kris_b said:
W-CDMA was developed by NTT DoCoMo..


The Japanese, for all their brilliance (and pursuit of miniaturisation) really shot themselves in the foot on this one a la IBM with computers back in the 80s.

The cost of getting the network specifics prepared, sent, programs made and then flashed into every phone at the factory is the end of CDMA for phones.

With GSM you put sim card into phone and it'll basically work anywhere. They do do some network specs for them but nothing major as the platform is more universal.

I think there will be plenty of Telecom customers who say, I bought this phone, so you have to replace it - when the time comes.

R
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it's not really a gradual migration if you roam to aus a lot - as of 24th jan - the aussie CDMA roaming is shutting off...

Apparently I am getting an offer in the mail for a free upgrade phone (one of the worldmode ones) - but still almost enough of an incentive for me to change to voda.

Oh and I have HUGE issues with nz/uk texting.
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jessiegirl said:
When Telecom eventually swaps to GSM phones will that also mean a much better range of handsets will come with it?


Hell yes.

CDMA phones are basically made for Japan and some of the US as well as NZ/Aus. GSM phones on the other hand are made for every market on earth so there is naturally more players/options in the market. The CDMA thing came about through Telecom getting into bed with the wrong technology. Back then it looked like the right choice but times changed.

R
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kris_b said:
woosh is W-CDMA, piggybacking on the vodafone network, not telecom.

"W-CDMA was developed by NTT DoCoMo as the air interface for their 3G network FOMA. Later NTT DoCoMo submitted the specification to the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) as a candidate for the international 3G standard known as IMT-2000. The ITU eventually accepted W-CDMA as part of the IMT-2000 family of 3G standards, as an alternative to CDMA2000, EDGE, and the short range DECT system. Later, W-CDMA was selected as the air interface for UMTS, the 3G successor to GSM."


Nah, last time I looked they were using a variation of WCDMA called WCDMA-TDD. Woosh run their own standalone network AFAIK.
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oh really? it has been a while since i kept up on it. i'm still certain they at the very least lease tower space off them in places.
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RobW said:
jessiegirl said:
When Telecom eventually swaps to GSM phones will that also mean a much better range of handsets will come with it?


Hell yes.

CDMA phones are basically made for Japan and some of the US as well as NZ/Aus. GSM phones on the other hand are made for every market on earth so there is naturally more players/options in the market. The CDMA thing came about through Telecom getting into bed with the wrong technology. Back then it looked like the right choice but times changed.

R


So I can look forward to getting a nice nokia handset maybe??? Shocked

Should I hold off buying a new handset then?

How long are we talking here? Years and years?
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Telecom was working pretty hard on improving it's image when I left.

Vodafone have been doing nothing but hip commercials and great marketing with little customer service skills.
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jessiegirl said:

So I can look forward to getting a nice nokia handset maybe??? Shocked

Should I hold off buying a new handset then?

How long are we talking here? Years and years?


November this year apparently.
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off topic slightly but i really want one these ting



anyone know of any brands / stores selling replicas of dem with latest features etc?

oh my isnt that a large image
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jeffthechef said:
jessiegirl said:

So I can look forward to getting a nice nokia handset maybe??? Shocked

Should I hold off buying a new handset then?

How long are we talking here? Years and years?


November this year apparently.


Well i'll be!

YUS! Very Happy
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resist said:

Vodafone ... hip commercials and great marketing


Apart from the mayfly ad, their marketing has been terrible Neutral
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PFunk said:
resist said:

Vodafone ... hip commercials and great marketing


Apart from the mayfly ad, their marketing has been terrible Neutral


absolutely - was looking at some billboard ad of their's the other day going "wtf? that doesn't even make sense?"

Biggie Mobile? Virtual network that mother fucker off Voda... It's all about brand extension kiddies...
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PFunk said:
resist said:

Vodafone ... hip commercials and great marketing


Apart from the mayfly ad, their marketing has been terrible Neutral


agreed.
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But serioulsy, 'hip' as an expression of coolness has had it's day. Maybe its time for a new joint, perhaps the knee.

Car


as you were
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Always time for a new joint! Froggy
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*waits expectantly*
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resist said:
Telecom was working pretty hard on improving it's image when I left.

Vodafone have been doing nothing but hip commercials and great marketing with little customer service skills.


0_o this post doesn't make much sense sorry bro!
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please someone dont make me start another thread
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looks like wOOsh is heading off into wi-max territory

Broadband spectrum bidder Woosh Wireless says it can get on with plans to further develop its nationwide wireless network.

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The company - which is rolling out a wireless network in Auckland, Christchurch, Wellington and Southland - says it won enough spectrum in a government auction yesterday to firm up its strategy for a Wi-max network.

Wi-max allows mobile users to access the internet and email. The company has radio spectrum which could be used to deliver TV.

"In the future there will be a need for more spectrum to offer robust, cost effective services and I'm hopeful the Government will consider that prior to 2012 when the spectrum caps are removed," Woosh chief executive Kevin Wiley said.
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Page: Might only be able to buy them online only.. in New Zealand anyway.. like dis one yeah?

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=14621
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10 points for vodafone cutting me off a month early and then refusing to reconnect me until they'd run a credit check.. I've been with them 10 years and counting on the same number.. always paid my bills on time and half the time I'm in credit! WTF lol..
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PhunkyDave said:
Page: Might only be able to buy them online only.. in New Zealand anyway.. like dis one yeah?

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=14621[/quote]

(***OUT OF STOCK***)


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ok in regards to my comments, dunno how voda has been recently as I didnt get a chance to watch TV at all last year, when I left telecom they had a very cool image that appealed a lot to the younger generation, whereas telecom was marketing a lot more towards businesses.

That seems to have changed a lot now though Razz
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Fortysix&2 said:
10 points for vodafone cutting me off a month early and then refusing to reconnect me until they'd run a credit check.. I've been with them 10 years and counting on the same number.. always paid my bills on time and half the time I'm in credit! WTF lol..


heh I did explain this to you hun but I think you may have been drunk Razz

It's not so much that they insist on credit checking you as it is a limitation of Siebel. When an account deactivates the max connections permitted on that customer account go to 0. So you can't reactivate it again until the max connects are increased to 1 which can unfortunately only be done by Credit Review dept. That means if you call after hours or on a Sunday you have to wait 'til Credit Review are back in again to action it. Sucks but that's the way the program works unfortunately.
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Tiger_lily said:
Fortysix&2 said:
10 points for vodafone cutting me off a month early and then refusing to reconnect me until they'd run a credit check.. I've been with them 10 years and counting on the same number.. always paid my bills on time and half the time I'm in credit! WTF lol..


heh I did explain this to you hun but I think you may have been drunk Razz

It's not so much that they insist on credit checking you as it is a limitation of Siebel. When an account deactivates the max connections permitted on that customer account go to 0. So you can't reactivate it again until the max connects are increased to 1 which can unfortunately only be done by Credit Review dept. That means if you call after hours or on a Sunday you have to wait 'til Credit Review are back in again to action it. Sucks but that's the way the program works unfortunately.


System issues vs loyalty = gay
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heh yes but sadly it can't be helped (aside from people being smart enough to schedule deacts on the right date.) It's not like they consciously chose to NOT react your connection to spite you or make your life difficult, the poor person you were probably ranting at couldn't do anything about it at all Razz

I did a react this morning and it took 5mins tops. You just got stuck at a crappy time.
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See if you said 10 points for cutting you off and not being ABLE to reconnect you til that team got in then you would have a fair point. Hate the system, not the poor person who couldn't help you no matter how much they wanted to Razz
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Tiger_lily said:
See if you said 10 points for cutting you off and not being ABLE to reconnect you til that team got in then you would have a fair point. Hate the system, not the poor person who couldn't help you no matter how much they wanted to Razz


Nah, I don't hate the girl who couldn't reconnect me... I'm pissed off with the company for cutting me off in the first place and not listening to the customer... I'm also pissed off at the fact the 'SYSTEM' wouldn't allow me to be re-connected without a credit check... not the person who told me that I couldn't be reconnected. Do you tihnk I give a rats arse... hehe.
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heh but it didn't need a credit check, it need a max connect increase Razz

They weren't insulting your credit history either Razz

And be pissed at the retarded CSR who couldn't schedule a deact correctly (not the company on that one lol.) That's just sheer laziness/incompetency imo.

And I don't care either lol, I'm just stirring you because it's fun Razz
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PAGE-3 said:
off topic slightly but i really want one these ting


ME TOO! I wish someone would start making them so theyre compatible with GSM...
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ennajel21 said:
PAGE-3 said:
off topic slightly but i really want one these ting


ME TOO! I wish someone would start making them so theyre compatible with GSM...


sick of losing our midget phones are we?
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I've just finished my latest masterpiece. The mother of all bitch letters that I'm sending to Vodafone. It's just under 2,200 words heh.
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shamone said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-VINTAGE-GSM-Retro-Classic-BRICK-Cell-MOBILE-PHONE_W0QQitemZ250205945685QQihZ015QQcategoryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


this one claims to be...


Its a Motelona! Laughing
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Yaksha said:
I've just finished my latest masterpiece. The mother of all bitch letters that I'm sending to Vodafone. It's just under 2,200 words heh.


Please please post it.
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ennajel21 said:
Yaksha said:
I've just finished my latest masterpiece. The mother of all bitch letters that I'm sending to Vodafone. It's just under 2,200 words heh.


Please please post it.


Yes or email it! Just to remind me once more why I'm leaving lol.
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Yaksha said:
I've just finished my latest masterpiece. The mother of all bitch letters that I'm sending to Vodafone. It's just under 2,200 words heh.


have you sent it yet? I have another massive gripe to add if you haven't .....you could really fock them with this one.
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chicken said:
Yaksha said:
I've just finished my latest masterpiece. The mother of all bitch letters that I'm sending to Vodafone. It's just under 2,200 words heh.


have you sent it yet? I have another massive gripe to add if you haven't .....you could really fock them with this one.


Oh? Please enlighten me.. I haven't sent it yet.
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Shall PM you Smile
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Dear Sir/Madam,

I write to you as an authorised party of the abovementioned mobile account, on behalf of my friend and colleague xxx xxx xxx. You will note from your records, there has been there has been an active dispute and complaint over the last couple of months which I have been dealing with. It is this experience I would like your understanding of and comments on; an experience which I can only describe as the most appalling and relentlessly disrespectful service I have ever come across from a large firm like yours. Having spent a large part of my working career in Customer Services, I can expect you must write off comments like this daily as emotional hyperbole, but I can assure you, I am a very reasonable person.

As a preface to my larger concern, I have to say I am shocked that your billing policies would allow for this situation to eventuate in the first place. The situation I’m referring to, of course, is that a 20 year old girl who clearly did not have an advanced understanding of internet protocols, was mislead by a Vodafone licensed dealer about what would constitute ‘downloading’, and then was allowed by Vodafone to rack up a bill in excess of $2,000. Does this sound to you like the spending capacity of a typical young woman barely out of her teens? I would’ve assumed, as a responsible company, that you would have policies in place which would have perhaps a phone call after the first $500 or so to check if that was her intended usage; perhaps a temporary block until that can be established; perhaps a low credit limit on all new accounts until it can be determined that customers genuinely understand the conditions of their terms. That’s what I would expect of a responsible company. Having said that – I had soon spoken with an employee of yours who informed me that there is a policy in place to deal with the aftermath of these events (even if a preventative measure would’ve clearly be more helpful), named “Bill-Shock”; an apt name, given <name>’s reaction having received the bill. So, I called up your Customer Services line to see how I would go about having this policy applied on her account.





Now, I would like to provide a timeline of events since then, describing my attempts have Bill-Shock applied, and I can assure you these details are correct:

- Approximately two months ago. I make my first call to Vodafone regarding this issue and am told by the CSR that the bill-shock policy actually no longer exists: it has been revoked due to the wide sources of information now available for people to check up on their account. I ask to speak directly with the manager, CSR informs me that I will receive a call back within two hours. Incidentally, the issue of authorisation on the account was never brought up at all.
- I receive a call back from Vodafone Team Leader, who assured me that bill-shock does still exist, and he would be happy to apply it to this account under the condition that I properly educate <name> on what kinds of activity on the internet would incur charges like this. He told me the total bill to pay would be just under $360. I agree to this deal, and was told this would be credited that day, and that was the end of it. I left this conversation very satisfied with the level of service I’d received. I was so pleased, in fact, that I did not write down his name.
- Approximately three weeks later. <name> receives another bill still demanding over $2,000. I call up Vodafone to explain there should have been a credit on the way. CSR informs me there is no record whatsoever that I’ve spoken with any manager, or that anyone has requested any credit at all. I request to speak to a Team Leader. Again, I am told that someone will call back within two hours.
- Two days go by with no call back. I call back and manage to speak directly with a Team Leader who assures me that while he doesn’t have the authority to instantly process the credit himself, he will put the request to his superiors and call me back with an update at 3pm that day regardless of the outcome to keep me posted on what’s happening. I let him know “that’s what the last person said”, to which he replied “in all fairness, I am not that person, and you’ve never spoken to me before, so I’ll definitely call you back at 3pm”. I finish the call, again satisfied that someone is at least taking ownership.
- The next day. Still have received no call that was promised me at 3pm the previous day. I call back and speak with the same Team Leader again, and ask why he failed to call me back at the time he promised. He said (paraphrasing) “Oh, I put the request through for someone to call you back so I figured they would get onto it” – despite his very clear promise that he would personally call me back. Said he will get in touch with the ‘Business Development Manager’ who will call me back within another two hours
- The ‘Business Development Manager’ calls me back, in just over two hours, and promptly refuses to talk to me until she receives verbal authority from <name>. This, despite my dealings with two team leaders already who have not introduced the issue of authority at all. This aside, I got hold of <name> who provided this authority. Talk further with the BDM, who doesn’t even understand the bill-shock policy herself, as she was telling me it would be $59.95 per GB used total; rather than purely the amount which exceeded the 2GB free allowance. I let her know this is incorrect. She said she’d verify this and call back within five minutes.
- BDM calls back over half an hour later, repeats the same offer that I had with the first Team Leader, confirms that she will put through the credit right now, and gave an authorisation code. She again outlined I would need to educate <name> on how the charges work. She agreed the total bill would be just under $360, and I confirmed acceptance again of this arrangement.
- Another month goes by. <name> now discovers her account has been barred. She promptly calls up personally, and is told again will need to pay around $2,500 before the service will be re-enabled. I call Vodafone the next day, am told by CSR that I’ll receive a call by a Team Leader within 90 minutes.
- Over three hours go by without call. I find they’ve left a message after this time when I was no longer able to accept calls. I call back to respond to the message, the CSR simply says she has no idea who that particular manager is and hung up on me.
- I call back again; CSR gives me the complaint code “080103000376” and says I will be receiving yet another call back within 30 minutes.
- Receive a call an hour and a half later, from Team Leader Graham. Bemused at the consistent non-meeting of given timeframes, I asked why he did not respond in this time. He offered no apology, and merely excused that he has a “lot of calls to make”. I also queried why none of the previous deals offered by Vodafone had been followed through, his response was that it’s a “lot of money” they’re crediting back which they “don’t have to do” because it’s a “good-will gesture”. He then offered to put yet another request through for the credit amount, but only for $1492 – which was contrary to the previous two deals I had agreed to with Vodafone. Graham refused to discuss anything further than this, and explained that he would refer me to the “Escalations Department” – Who would be calling me back by close of business Tuesday (around 4 days later) to discuss my concerns.
- I call back after close of business Thursday (two days after the given timeframe) when yet again no one has called me back at all. After holding 20 minutes, I spoke with Team Leader Rona. She told me that a credit has been put through, for the amount which I had tried to dispute with Graham, and could offer no explanation for why the Escalations Department hasn’t called me. She said she will definitely call me back by 8pm that night (about 2 hours later).
- I called back the following day, Friday 11 Jan, having received no calls to either my home phone or cell phone, and spoke with CSR Nancy. She claimed that Rona did try to call me back at around 7:45pm but did not get any answer. Incidentally, this is provably false. I have complete logs of my phone activity for both phones and there were no calls whatsoever. I also confirmed with Nancy that she has the correct number noted for me. I asked to speak to a Team Leader again, and was told someone would be able to call me back within 48 hours. I outlined I wanted to speak to a manager more urgently than that, and was fed only the same line again that I would receive a call back within 48 hours.
- Now it’s Tuesday, 15 January, four days later, and have still received no call at all. I called at 5pm today, spoke with Tafao (who identified herself as a “support person”), she advised that she will put a request through and hopefully someone will call me back tomorrow. I demanded an email address to send a complaint to, she refused. I requested that Tafao take ownership of the problem and at the very least agree to call me back personally tomorrow, regardless of the outcome of the request to keep me informed. She refused, and repeated then that someone will definitely get back to me tomorrow, and then hung up on me.
- I call back again; speak with CSR Noha, asking for this postal address to forward my concerns.


In summation, it has taken fourteen phone conversations to arrive at this point, and still, no one has called me back. I have been told three times that a credit has been put through when it hasn’t. I still don’t know if it’s actually been put through, but if it has, it’s certainly for less than the amount I have agreed to. I have been told ten times that someone will call me back within a set timeframe, and not one of them has met that timeframe. Granted, some have been close, but no one has taken the initiative to apologise for being late without my prompting, and most have not bothered to call back at all. I’m quite sure I don’t need to indulge in too much more detail how frustrating this has been, how much of my personal time has been wasted in attempts for someone there to take me seriously.

As I said before, I am a very reasonable person. I understand that people make mistakes and I understand that it’s not always realistic to empower all of your staff with the authority to think “outside the box” in terms of internal policies. But the experiences I’ve just outlined above, do not fall into the scope what anyone would deem reasonable. Not only have mistakes been made; but they have been made repeatedly, with no hint of apology, and with apparently no inclination to fix them. As a loyal customer myself for many years, and as someone who has previously deeply admired Vodafone as a company for its operating practices, I am left stunned and bemused. What I would like to hear from Vodafone, is the following:
- Why there has been repeatedly no follow-through on promises
- Why there has been zero effort into either providing realistic timeframes, or sticking to them
- What Vodafone plan to DO to resolve my complaint, given the hassles experienced, the fact that the service has been barred for an extended period, and also given that the service was not able to be used for several extended periods due to an undisclosed “technical fault” which <name> has called about personally.

Based on your response, we will both be deciding whether Vodafone is a company we wish to continue services with. Thank you for your consideration, and I look forward to your reply.

Yours sincerely,




Luke Stanford
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Still need to do a little editing though. I'm actually trying to achieve something instead of just having fun so I've had to hold back on the vitriol a touch heh.
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nice one bro... vodafone pwned Music
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Nice, that's perfect.

I'm just going to PM you regarding a couple of things though Smile
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OneHappy said:
Heh. i need to change my call plan, which they cannot do over the phone. i have to go into a store...

i'm trying to figure what the next excuse will be when i finally make the big trip


I'll call you tomorrow and come to you Smile
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Oh damn I forgot you were a VBC Dr J. What area do you do? I had a referral today for a massive corporate sign on that I should have sent you.
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Astral said:
Ive gone off them since my company phone was switched from Telecom. Literally the day after we changed my dropped calls went from 1 every now and then to 1 or 2 every day.
Not to mention (and this, admittedly, may be due to our IT guy getting royally owned on contract negotiation) my first bill being about $150 more than my average Telecom bill.


This occurs if your handset is set to force 3G mode for normal voice calling, something it doesn't need to do. Did it coincide with a handset change? Call and complain and a nerd will guide you through fixing that.

It usually only drops if you are switching from a 3G to 2G cellsite.
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If you do call, make sure you specifically ask how to change to 2G only network selection. Reduces the risk of the person at the other end not actually being able to help you Wink
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Okay so sorry I just skim read the thread, but here's my 5c.

Basically two major downers happened for Vodafone's image unfortunately, first of all they decided to replace the whole billing system with another one that's pretty finicky at times. Secondly the support team over at Vnue aren't always helpful, there's a leadership vacuum it seems because noone seems to know all the answers over there especially on the residential side.

The business team is not much better, they really need to aim up on retaining some of these CSR's but really it's hard to do as CSR is a crap job to do anyways anywhere in any organisation so the churn is high. Also they need to train the stuffing out of them which thankfully, they've established a whole new division to sort out.

Honestly, if you want the best help GO TO A BRANCH. Then you will strike WAY, WAY less problems. Each branch has access to the same database (Siebel) and they have way less turnover in staff. In fact usually every store has at least two long termer boffin types. Most.

That is definitely a pain in the bum compared to simply phoning, but if you can't git 'er done by calling one time then it's best to go do it in person.

90% of Vodafone's business sales and account management (everything except the highest clients) is actually looked after by Digital Mobile and First Mobile. The share is about 55-45 with Digital having a slight bit more of the cake. Both are good operations. VBC's (Voda Business Consultants) are usually pretty onto it and have been around a while.

All of them except me that is Razz

You wanna stick with Vodafone though. They're still the best.
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Tiger_lily said:
Oh damn I forgot you were a VBC Dr J. What area do you do? I had a referral today for a massive corporate sign on that I should have sent you.



Duuuude


I'm out of Digi Kingsland.


TBH I've already generated quite a bit of business, first day back today was hard work! But there's never enough so if you know of any more - Fire them to me. jeremy at 3gmobiles dot co dot nz
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Sweet will do. I was sitting there trying to recall if any of the VBCs I used to know were still doing it but they had all left!

I'll keep it in mind though, I'm only there for another month blower but I'll send it through to all of my teams so that if there are any (central) Auckland ones they send them to you. It's a whole load easier than sending it through Beyond the Call that's for sure!
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Thanks Pink Winky


I pay Amstel commission@!
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lol!

I may listen to breaks but credit me with some taste. Needs more Pinot Gris heh.

I'll have a look through my notebook tomorrow too and see if I can find the one from today, I don't know if I wrote it down though.
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Tiger_lily said:

I may listen to breaks but credit me with some taste. Needs more Pinot Gris


oh hell yeah.

I may have however spilt a glass of this whilst reaching for the coloured pencils. Yes I am an art geek. I like vino.
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You draw and you drink Pinot Gris?

Clearly Chicken=awesome heh.

I <3 drawing
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And I spilled on the carpet... of course not on the picture... Very Happy

Nevermind... I have the mad-get-spills-out-of-carpet-skills... got to have mad skills in at least three areas of ones life... whats the point otherwise??
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Laughing

And at least it was white wine. It could have been much worse!
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Tiger_lily said:
Siebel.

Dear God not Siebel Neutral Neutral Neutral
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PFunk said:
resist said:

Vodafone ... hip commercials and great marketing


Apart from the mayfly ad, their marketing has been terrible Neutral


Agreed, and the Mayfly ad was a long time ago
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Tiger_lily said:
lol!

I may listen to breaks but credit me with some taste. Needs more Pinot Gris heh.


eh? Some of the best wine palates and cooks I know are breaks crew stalwarts Smile

Dalai and SkankyMcYankee and chrisv and Egor and Jason Mcawesomegeorge reprezent!!

Breaks people DO have taste you know Smile
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yes but they are exceptional examples ele Pink Winky an I have yet to taste a meal from any of them... wtf is with that?



come to think of it... I IS HUNGRY.