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Just looking at various stuff on the news this morning.

Tony Blair has authorised thousands of troops to beef up security imediately at brittish airports and other london targets.
Hussein has moved scud launching equipment near historic sites, and moved explosives out to the oil fields.
Al Queda has pleaded with all muslims to attack jews and christians in all countries once war comences.
Bush has comenced (it seems) a last iniative to convince the america public of reasons for war to time with blix's next anouncement on friday.

Are we days away from war or weeks?
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Days.

Strange that Al Queda is supporting Saddam, I thought they were supposed to hate each other?
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I would still say it's at least a couple of weeks away unless the US and UK are prepared to start it without UN and Security Council sanctions.
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Al Queda supporting Saddam or just anti US Trapper?
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I guess the enemy of your enemy is a friend...
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no one has said apart from bush and blair that al qaeda supports iraq and vice versa, even the US and UK inteeligence services dont say this. Latest statement from osama doesnt say this he just says muslims should stand by iraq not saddam but iraq
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I'd say just wanting to stop US oppression
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"During the first Gulf War, our government used manufactured evidence of all kinds to deceive the American public. The Pentagon claimed it had satellite photos showing Iraqi tanks and 250,000 troops poised to invade Saudi Arabia. Then there was the horrifying story about Iraqi troops killing 312 babies in a Kuwaiti hospital by stealing their incubators. Both of these stories played a major role in winning domestic support for the war; both later turned out to be false.

Now we have alleged links of Iraq to Al- Qaeda, although denied by our own CIA and British intelligence. This is a joke. According to the standards adopted by the Bush administration -- the presence of people associated with Al-Qaeda inside the country -- "Old Europe" and even the United States would be shown to have stronger ties than Iraq to Al-Qaeda.

The bottom line is that this war has nothing to do with our national security. To the Bush Administration, and its chief political strategist Karl Rove, it is a game. It's a power grab. Having successfully used the confrontation with Iraq to win both houses of Congress last November, they intend to ride their "War on Terrorism" all the way to the White House in 2004.

These people know how to read the polls. The Republicans have a 54-16 lead on "security" issues, but would lose badly on the economy, jobs, the budget, Medicare, or any other set of domestic issues. Not to mention the string of scandals -- Harken Energy, Haliburton, Enron and other corporate malfeasance, and the September 11 intelligence failures -- that the war talk has allowed them to sidestep.

So they can grab power at home, and power abroad -- control over Middle Eastern oil has been a key component of American global dominance since the end of World War II. It's a win-win situation. If the anger provoked by the mass killing of civilians in Iraq leads to terrorist attacks on Americans, this will provide further justification for Dick Cheney's vision of a war without end.

All this is obvious to most of the world, but here at home it is obscured by the media. Although most journalists are against the war, they mainly offer the Bush Administration's point of view -- especially in the broadcast media. Our journalists follow an unwritten rule: unless the leadership of the opposition party offers a strong rebuttal, then reporting the news means reporting the arguments of those who are in power.

And there's the catch: the Democratic leadership has shamefully abdicated its responsibility to oppose the war. This leaves tens of millions of Americans who do not want this war -- a majority in some polls -- with very little representation in the major news media, allowing the Administration a huge advantage in its daily public relations campaign. If not for this advantage, Bush's game would certainly be over."

Mark Weisbrot is Co-Director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, in Washington D.C. (www.cepr.net )
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bob, i was rather specific on the question, i didn't really want it to degenerate into another thread on the rights or wrongs of the war, which it is going to if someone rebutts your points.

There's plenty of other threads to put your post on Smile
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the war never ended.... it's just stepped up a few notchs already...
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Careful which bob your talking to Smile

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yea, this one ^^^ might tell you how the world REALLY is, not fill your thread with mindless ramblings of a conspiracy theorist
/end sarcasm
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i meant the other bob, bob Smile

technically your right cactus, but it all but died away for awhile, and by default then your agreeing the step up in activity is ok?
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sorry if my post wasn't specifically on topic Michael

if I were to say - kick off 5.30 would that appease you? and sorry for ruining your thread Smile
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i have given up trying to decide whether it's ok or not. i think we'll all just have to wait and see. it's not like we can change anything either.