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White Ribbon offers men the opportunity to be part of the solution to end violence against women. Violence is endemic within New Zealand. One in three women are victims of violence from a partner, while on average fourteen women are killed each year by a member of their own family.

White Ribbon is a campaign led by men who condemn violence against women and take action. We are part of a global campaign committed to ending violence against women. You can help effect change by supporting White Ribbon.

Wearing a white ribbon is a personal pledge to never commit, condone or remain silent about violence against women. In 2011 our campaign focus will be on two things: what men can do to change attitudes toward violence; and developing a narrative around positive male role models.



White Ribbon Day is Friday November 25th... but let's make it everyday chaps!

http://whiteribbon.org.nz/
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I did some work on White ribbon tvc's here recently blower
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Do we really need to bring gender into violence? Confused Something about these campaigns never sits right with me. Even though it's obviously unintentional, I feel like the corollary of explicitly separating out 'women-violence' is that male-violence isn't as important or concerning.
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maybe that it's a problem all of it's own with a bunch of predictable factors.

And the rest of the male population gets pretty fucked off with it.
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I'm with bob (McCoskrie)
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And what about animal violence? that too is a serious issue i think needs to be addressed.
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Pechora said:
Do we really need to bring gender into violence? Confused Something about these campaigns never sits right with me. Even though it's obviously unintentional, I feel like the corollary of explicitly separating out 'women-violence' is that male-violence isn't as important or concerning.


You and bob have a lot in common, if you are upset about the lack of female violence against men being represented make your own day. No need to tear other causes down because there's gender lines.

The fact is that 95% of reported abuse is from women, ~80% of hospital related domestic violence admissions are women. There's an obvious male bias in domestic violence. So yes, gender does need to be brought into it. If you actually discovered how the day was founded (in Canada) you would see the reason for it being violence against women as it related to a specific event on it's founding.

Just because you feel one gender is excluded, doesn't mean that we can ignore the statistics (flawed as they may be) that we have.
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Here's the original founding:

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The first White Ribbon Campaign was launched by a group of men in Canada after the brutal mass shooting of 14 female students at the University of Montreal. WRC in Canada runs its campaign from November 25 (the International Day for the Eradication of Violence Against Women) until December 6, Canada’s National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. Other countries support 16 Days of Action from November 25th until December 10th but campaigns can occur at any time of the year.
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Heh, seems someone got as angry as I did about the gender insinuation...

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1111/S00668/family-first-or-womens-safety-last.htm
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resist said:
Pechora said:
Do we really need to bring gender into violence? Confused Something about these campaigns never sits right with me. Even though it's obviously unintentional, I feel like the corollary of explicitly separating out 'women-violence' is that male-violence isn't as important or concerning.


You and bob have a lot in common, if you are upset about the lack of female violence against men being represented make your own day. No need to tear other causes down because there's gender lines.


a) I'm not upset, I just said it doesn't sit right with me and questioned it in a fairly innocuous manner Razz
b) I'm not concerned with any particular demographic more than another. All violence is wrong, I don't see a point in separating it out personally.

So what if 95% is reported from women? Confused I don't see how that's an answer for why gender needs to be brought into the campaign for violence to stop. Surely we still want violence to stop in all its forms, so why not devote the ribbon to the entire problem instead of just for half the population?

neil / gummi - thoughts on whether this kind of campaign could contribute to negative social attitudes about men?
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pech fuck off and play cards, please
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Poke 'er flat?
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Maybe its the fact that to get a response from people you have to funnel a cause down to something a little more specific than just "violence". I think it probably gets more of a sympathy vote when you involve women gender stereotypes yadda yadda.
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Just* said:
Maybe its the fact that to get a response from people you have to funnel a cause down to something a little more specific than just "violence".

This.
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McCoskrie suggests that White Ribbon Day is about “blaming” men for violence, that the campaign’s messages make a gender issue out of a family problem.

“What about women’s violence toward men and children?” he asks.

It is a legitimate question, but one that reveals a lack of understanding of the history, role and impact of the White Ribbon Day campaign.

White Ribbon Day has never made out family violence as solely a result of men’s behaviour. It is, at its simplest, a men’s response to the issue of family violence.


not exactly rocket science... but hey here's Michael laws

next up Pech and McCoskie attack the Breast Cancer Foundation for sexism and World Youth Day for being ageist



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apart from giving white liberals like you the warm fuzzzies bob_d I doubt white ribbon day will achieve anything like that the breast awareness campaign has

year after year after year of headline news and not alright campaigns have produced what?

perhaps aiming the message at the victims and not the perps would be of better use

just get out and stay out of abusive relationships

but no: they head back in time and time again for the same old same old bish bash
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always better to do nothing and to pass blame onto the victim isn't it NR

you sir are a REAL man I applaud you
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Pechora said:
Do we really need to bring gender into violence?


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Night Rider said:
apart from giving white liberals like you the warm fuzzzies bob_d I doubt white ribbon day will achieve anything


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IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blower blower blower
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Remember the DPB? brought in by Norm Kirk's govt waaaay back in the day? That was supposed to empower women to leave violent relationships and all would be well in the world (some did). Brave New World. We all know where that lead don't we?

To the sorry state of affairs we have today.
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the DBP was not a anti violence initiative or any form of empowerment for those in abusive relationships

The DPB, introduced in statutory form in 1973 provided State financial support for single mothers, irrespective of whether the father was contributing to maintenance payments.

come on man just say she was asking for it..... you know you want to
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and before dpb women found it very difficult financially to leave violent relationships but after they could more easily

but did they? stats would suggest not



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bob daktari said:
always better to do nothing and to pass blame onto the victim isn't it NR


and your white ribbon will achieve exactly what? more blinding glimpses into the obvious?

Hey, I condemn violence against women too, unless they are coming at me of course. Then I believe in equal opportunities and all that.

See, Imma down wit' da ladeez too ya know.

*feels all glowy n shit*
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Night Rider said:
and before dpb women found it very difficult financially to leave violent relationships but after they could more easily


financially hard to leave a relationship that included children full stop - the legislation covered all, not just the victims of abusive relationships
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I like the way you substantiate my statements
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bob daktari said:
pech fuck off and play cards, please


Sorry for ruining the discussion forums with discussion bobbles Sad
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Night Rider said:
and your white ribbon will achieve exactly what? more blinding glimpses into the obvious?


by condemning violence against woman I have taken it upon myself to not be one of those weak willed men whom violence is an option... be it physical or emotional - I shall personally hold myself accountable for my actions and I shall not stand by if someone near is being abused

I do not nor shall I defend this day or my actions to yourself for to do so would lead me to a place where violence flourishes, I shall not rise to your bait
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are you in a domestic relationship dak? just asking
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bob daktari said:
I shall personally hold myself accountable for my actions and I shall not stand by if someone near is being abused


Except if they're male eh Razz
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The campaign needs to go further with pre-emptive attacks giving Night Rider and Pechora the smash down Smile
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Whoa PMS much?
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OneHappy said:
The campaign needs to go further with pre-emptive attacks giving Night Rider and Pechora the smash down Smile


anger management needed much?
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bob daktari said:
by condemning violence against woman I have taken it upon myself to not be one of those weak willed men whom violence is an option... be it physical or emotional - I shall personally hold myself accountable for my actions and I shall not stand by if someone near is being abused


I have devised the perfect test for your resolve

lock you up in a room with cactus skite - I give it about two hours max Laughing
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Umm... It's already World AIDS Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With Red Ribbons!!!!!!!!!!

You thieving batards!
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you've peaked too early - Dec 1 for World AIDS Day

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Then why are they all over the streets today with thteir buckets? Why do I have a red ribbon and World AIDS Day badge in my pocket? Why did I have the bowl Bart? Why did I have the bowl?
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because organisations focus collection days to capitalise on Fridays (the best day to collect)... happens all the time

*shakes fist*

now bowl ya ball
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Brad Callaghan's had a change of heart (and plea) on white ribbon day

"Mr Callaghan is an intelligent young man who has taken responsibility for his actions in this tragic saga and has pleaded guilty to the two charges today which includes murder.''