Hipsters...

Why does everyone hate them so much?

Because their for individuality have turned them into a group that conforms to each each others idead of conformity.

Also have you ever heard them talk? Seriously it makes me want to shoot them all. This was amplified by living very close to Shoreditch in London, which is so hip it doesn't even have a tube station anymore because that was too cliched.

for the same reason people didn't think much of them when they were emo's I guess

file under another youth trend with no substance but a nice line in headwear/neckwear

yoff must be frowned upon, especially if they is haivng fun

fuckers

Berlin was nuts for hipsters. I've never seen so many in my life.

btw, my comment was not really related to hipsters, but more to the fact that I've been hanging in Berlin ($1.70 becks with currywurst! whut!)

neil

Epic indirect bragging.

from some hipster dude

what do hipsters look like?

and why no use of the word 'construct' in that quote of yours daktari? as in 'psychological construct' or some such

perhaps because its not a psychological construct or anything of the like, merely an observation from a layperson

hipsters look like death

I see them every night as I go to sleep and every morning when I awake the fuckers are back

I blame those stupid colored tight jeans. At least when we wore em in the 80's, they were black, and we had stupid over-sized basket ball sneakers at the bottom.

I don't like the way they look, I don't like they way they act, I don't like the way the dress, I don't like anything they stand for and I especially don't like their superior attitudes.

Sitting near some at a cafe a few weeks ago, and they were talking about some musician friend of theirs, and one of them says, I shit you not "I don't want to use the word quirky because it's so cliche". I swear it took every ounce of strength in my body not to pick up my knife out of my big breakfast and STAB HIM IN THE FACE WITH IT.

You should have, no one would have cared. You might have even got a free coffee out of it ( well, at least some applause)

^^^

Weird, I know some people who may be regarded as hipsters and they're like the most humble people I know...

Just last weekend I spent I went down to Whangamata with a hipstery couple from Melbourne and they were just really cool people.

Fucking haters ITT imo :>

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humble?

look into my eyes son

I don't really care either way about all the above, don't like the superior attitudes but it isn't only hipsters who are guilty of that. I'm guilty of having a superior attitude to music a lot of the time, so I try to keep that in mind and any dislike I have in check..

Is one of your best friends black too?

That's probably too obscure actually heh. But ya there are hipster exceptions..

For me it's more hating (well, disliking) the culture/movement rather than the people themselves. Same thing with emos. Can't stand the emo culture but I'm sure there's plenty of otherwise cool people who get sucked in by it.

Christ I hate ironic moustaches most of all... How dare you insult the moustache in such a manor.

gummi is a hipster.

Don't really come across them here in South Auckland

They're everywhere in Melbourne, and while one individual one might be a lovely person, put them in a pack and that's all out the window and they're collective douchebaggery reaches epic proportions...I can't even stand going to the pubs they hang out at (in truth, this is 50/50 hate for them as much as it's hate for the dreary, dire fucking music they listen to)

Just been chatting with self confessed hipster on facebook and she said that

i) it's not a binary thing -- everyone's somewhere on the hipster scale (she's a 7 apparently).

ii) she uses the term hipster about people she doesn't like

:>

examples?

Crappy local indie-rock shit

Gotye considered hipster?

Hipsters vs:



Who wins?

Not in my books

I beg to differ but i have no problem with LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire and most other indie bands either. Generally i don't see the big deal with hipsters but they're an easy target + it's fun to hate.

I hate the way band have taken over the term INDIE - it is not a genre, it is a fucking business model

especially those bands on major labels (LCD you know I'm looking at you)

saying that most music associated with "hipsters" I tend like to varying degrees...

Pretty much this..

Just a few indie/hipster bands i like

THIS, FUCKING THIS

It's not so much the bands that have coined the Genre as you music industry folk. tbf when LCD started DFA was independent.. 4AD is pretty big now but was pretty small 10 years ago.

Last video you posted is pretty cool micarl

Reminds me a bit of The Smiths in parts...

DFA signed a deal with EMI for LCD at that point they ceased to be independent in the business model sense of the word - musically they didn't change, thankfully - I *heart* LCD

once upon a time indie was savagely defended as a type - there were independent record stores, labels (and as such artists), distributors, radio stations etc etc etc - it meant a awful lot to people around the globe - this is very much lost in todays world largely, which is a shame...

it is not a industry folk term I'd suggest, probably coined by the media and the model is as old as the pre-recorded music world - ie has its roots in the 50s but really came into force in the punk era as it is now known

blah blah blah

once upon a time I could say I liked indie music and it meant rock bands through to techno producers... which is actually akin to my listening habits

now I have to spit on the ground at another word/ethic/type I held great respect for being denigrated (hipster is the same)



indie doesn't mean small - it means independent of the major multinational recording companies, as in: in control of your own business destiny (to varying degrees)

This s much fucking this! In the UK indie seems to mean English band that aren't the Arctic Monkeys as well. Oasis get called Indie! OASIS!

It's a tough market to be distributing music in though right? I'm sure had it been possible for DFA to stay independent they would have but selling music on vinyl is near on impossible without *some* backing and distribution help.

I agree indie is a very broad term these days but there's no other widely coined terms to describe non mainstream rock music.

its a tougher market to be an independent distributor if any artist with potential sales buggers off to a major label - as has always been the case, ie support ya peeps and they will support you (for a good story refer to Offspring and their support indie stance over smash - yes I know they suck)

tbh physical distro is increasingly redundant as the lack of actual stores to supply renders the economics of it all a waste of time

and once again the term wasn't rock centric once upon a time - it would have encompassed most of your listening I'd suggest

and you'd be sticking it to the man each and every "play"

Smash came out at the height of CD sales, it was no skin off their back to stay with a smaller label once it got big.
These days, it helps get exposure if you sign to 4AD or another label which has stronger distribution powers. I think 4AD is a pretty incredible case of a label supporting lesser known acts and being successful.

That's like having special "mosh pit" tickets to the Cranberries. (which actually happened btw)

So the function of "Indie" labels has been replaced by illegal downloads?

The Grace Darling?

God knows, I'm not in the habit of learning names of bands I dislike (I'm talking about the local bands playing live at the pubs in the city fringe suburbs...95% of the ones I've heard have just made me cringe)

Totally!

The Grace Darling is a pub on Smith St in Collingwood which is, as far as I can tell, a bit of an epicentre for all things hipster.

Tis actually a nice pub in the afternoon but in the evenings beards, tight pants, check shirts and know-it-all attitudes emerge from everywhere. And thats just the girls.

I know, I was saying it is totally the epicenter.

Maybe Yah-Yahs later on.

Yep, last post was aimed at Insanity

Ah the old Grace Darling/Yah Yahs combo. I would say it's superb but it sounds a bit, you know, cliche...

Yah Yahs is the worst.

Gummi loves his stove pipe jeans. :>

Oh I'm fully aware I'm being highly hypocritical, but fuck 'em.

Also http://dadsaretheoriginalhipster.tumblr.com

of course you wouldn't hate your own kind! HIPSTER!

I love to hate weirdo subcultures as much as the next person, but that said its a faux hate for amusements sake only. Truly I love all subcultures provided they are nice people and don't hate on others/take themselves too seriously. I really like to see variety of people and fashions, makes life way more interesting IMHO. the end.

Shoreditch actually has a huge shiny overground station now except no one uses it because it doesn't go anywhere useful (too cliched), hipsters can't afford to use the tube because they spend all their money on shitty vintage clothes and also because they need to be seen hamming it up on their fixies.

hip this



end thread

now get outside and dance everybody dance

sorry I don't know what came over me

I'm going to go ahead and assume you've seen this video gummi?





gc.

That new RB song isn't too bad. The tweens will be all over it.

Stop it.



gc.

Im going to have the dickhead song in my head for the rest of the day.

I have a few friends I would class as hipsters and they are sweet as cuz. You guys are haters.

(In saying that I know from my Melbourne days what total knob jockeys some can be)

Yeah Hipsters look like idiots.

Move along.

Nowhere near as ridiculous as the hideous outfits seen at dance parties circa 2000 :>

yeah those peeps were dicks too

and a lot were on here... and those who can still form a sentence still post

*i heart my fluffy bra*

It's a fkn dance party Hipsters look like they do ALL the time.

I'm also happy to admit that I dressed/looked like a fucking bell end when getting all 'raved' up for gigs.



gc.

At least we kept the rave pants in the club... We all shook our heads at the cocksucker wearing his Tommy Gun pants, fitted silver t shirt, and yellow lenses at the gas station at 1pm buying a pack of fags with some mean mean hardhouse mean blaring out of his Pulsar.

Oh and what smf said. I saw some old photos and was quite shocked to learn I was still highlighting my hair in 2003.

Overground because you know Underground is too commercial now.

What's the name of that cafe/bar/club in Brick Lane that was basically the hipster capitl of the world? 213? I'm ashamed to admit I spent a great deal of time there, I wasn't even that into techno at the time either.

Across the alley from Big Chill Bar.

Cafe 1001! Zooming enough on Googsmaps found it... Seriously if you ever want to know what hipsters will look like in 3 months time, go there. If you want to end hipster culture in one foul swoop, blow it up.

Cafe 1001 turned into a bit of a tourist trap filled with Italians, Spanish and Antipodeans. Broadway markets has been the epicentre for quite a while now.

bunch of old cunts itt

I always found that type of element of society interesting. People who think they are being alternative by all looking/dressing the same as their little group. They quite often stick out as well.

Different. Different. But the same? LOL

huh? The people in a sub-culture don't think they're these unique individuals, they only want to set themselves apart from the dominant culture.

A hipster with a moustache is as much a claim to individuality as a hip-hop dude with baggy FUBU jeans (lol) or some punk with a mohawk...

TBH the hip hop culture is much, much less of a conscious choice - for 90% of people it's a standard part of their "culture". In particular with urban minorities.



gc.

Yes. Totally Gummi - but when there is more of them than regular people lining the streets... or at least in large numbers, it is a diff story.

I can think of plenty of groups over the years. From my uni days until recently.

For many young ones its more so they feel like they belong to something as well.

Ya that was a pretty bad example

I just don't think hipsters are saying "oh look at me i'm a unique snowflake" or anything

Depends whether you are talking about the alpha hipster or the beta and cetas... The alpha considers him/herself (more often her - pussy power) to be so unique that society is scared of their non-conformity and that they themselves can decide what is cliched or no longer hip. The betas basically do and wear what the alpha says generally because they want to hit that, while the cetas are considered a bit lame by the alpha so hold little or know way within the group, thus the are utterly sycophantic to all members but make constant fopars such as wearing too baggy jeans or wearing their fringe the wrong way.

...or bring up the new Kasabian CD which is a double fopar because Kasabian aren't hip anymore and CDs

Lulz Jono



gc.

"Look at us we are a pack of cunts"?

faux pas.

at JBS!

Wow how did I not pick that 'fopar' up!?



gc.

Goddam French, your language is an insult to Latin and makes no sense to anyone. Stop wasting letters.

hahaha I just assumed he was using it ironically, like a hipster would

for the same reason you didn't pick up on the 'cetas'

Is it Seta? I haven't got a clue how to spell Greek letters in English.

It would be in fact gamma if the third letter

Zeta is 6th and theta is 8th