Hardcore

I need an event with oh so much hardcore!!!

I think we all love hardcore, its my life and style.
An event on the horizon?

You talking 'bout the music right?

Lol.
Hardcore Rulez...I was so gutted I missed the bonkers tour with Hixxy in '03.

corse n seeing u now become of our hardcore dj's next to kam n shit so lead us on wit the sweet sweet hardcore!!!

There may be an event on the Horizon.. Before the end of this year, in fact. Keep your eyes peeled

Is it me or is there an abundance of people around my age (17) that love hardcore. Im not too big a fan of it. Im personally more a Trance and House person.

Do we the younger generation eventually calm down into the more chilled out genres?

im a straight rocker lol!

i dont think ill ever really chill out a. whilst i can listen to house, trance etc its generally to slow so need ma harddance, sum dark drum n bass tunes, n dat epic hardcore madness!!!

Hardcore was my First love.

Dune - Are you ready to fly.

And now I’m all old and grown up, I still loves my Hardcore. (I still feel like a big 17yr old most of the time though)

Who thinks dnb b2b hardcore works well?

I reckon it has potential?

Sounds different, dare ya to try it.

It was tried, and it sounded pretty good at the Central Gig on Friday last week.

Just wondering what the punters reckoned

as im still slightly new to all this with ignition recently being my first rave ive been to im a little confused on what the hardcore tunes are.

if hardcore is the music filled with happy girls and guys singing in really high voices over the top then i must say im not a big fan of it.

im a full on georgefm junkie and love my house but if im gonna hear something up loud it needs to be real dark and real trippy, something that really takes over me.

if this IS hardcore then let the legend live on, otherwise someone please guide into my correct music genre?!

ta chaps!

You'd be a fan of breaks/house.

(Keep an eye out for a gig called Fresco, in Mid-October)

That, or if you need up tempo - and you're george listener, I'm sure you're already familiar with Drum & Bass..

Loved it. I rekon it was great.

yea drum n bass is wiCKKEEd but stuff like Infected Mushrooms and all that is wat i love hearing up loud at a rave, what would that be classed under?

am i on the right track with harcore being wat it is?

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head in regards to Hardcore.

yea the dnb hardcore back to back was diff but all good. im pretty much still a newb raver in reguards to knowledge bowt the music and all that but i reakon im geting there

Haha, thanks a bunch. Solved my late night kifuffle. Will certainly keep an eye out for that gig...

That pretty much describes the old "Happy Hardcore" from back in the late 90s.

Most of the vocals in Hardcore now days 'ant all high pitched or chipmunk, but more like faster trance vocals.

Even then most people would class that kind of stuff as the cheesy type of hardcore.

Then of course you get the Freeform, which by the sounds of things, may be more your cup of tea, and then of course there is gabber...

Oooo, you've got me interested now... do explain 'freeform' to me?

I would recommend heading over to
http://www.imorecords.com
http://www.nuenergy.com
http://www.happyhardcore.com

And have a listen to the samples in their online stores; you will see the HUGE variety that’s in the hardcore genre.

No. Infected Mushroom is Psy Trance.

UK Hardcore is like Trance at about 170-180 BPM. For reference, Hard house is between 150-160 BPM...

Hardcore is usually the same speed as Drum & Bass (the two actually stemmed from the same music, Jungle, in the early & mid 90's) so mixing into & out of DnB is piss easy (as I will demonstrate)

I'm spinning Hardcore at Suburban, so check it out, should be a damn good night! For reference, I play mainly Freeform, an acidy type of Hardcore, with a bit of cheesey UK stuff thrown in for good measure...

ares you must spin hardcore with kam at suburban like actually, u taking requests?

Yep, but Kam isn't spinning at Suburban, just me.

yay awesome !! you taking requests or just seeing what the crowd wants :p

If you have any good requests!

Hehehe, just messin! So, what y'all wanna hear?

Don't forget PH Radio, this saturday, up fm, 10-12, tune in to score a cd!!!

Glad to see your in the right forum *said sarcasticly*

Heh, Scoob's been playing his Drumcore sets for years, mixing up teh dnb and hardcore, and yeah the genres are the same speeds so it does work well. Hardcore is the fucking shit, however in NZ it doesn't get the recognition it deserves. I don't think that an all age gig with only hardcore being played would work that well, as hardcore is not popular enough

We just need a few people to really push the hardcore..., It will become the popular style again.

I always drive people around in my car and usually have hardcore blazing the stereo. Most of the people that don't usually listen to dance music love the hardcore and get me to make a copy of the CD for them. I think an all ages hardcore gig has lots of potential. People that are not too familiar with dance music don't realise the music they like is hardcore is there is often a slight confusion. Well thats just my opinion.

well most ppl who think they like dance music, are judging that from the more commercail stuff, like MOS Annuals and then when they hear stuff like hardcore their like whoa!! this is so good!

So you're bringin them to Suburban right?

Heh, I can remember when Hardcore was all the all age scene had in the l8 90's! Could go out every weekend to a Hardcore party!

Too much of anythin kills the scene though, I'd say once every 2 months tops!

Good to see the support though!

Yeah , I'll be coming to suburban with my troops Surprisingly all the hip-hop fiens I know say they would be hanging around the 'spectrum' side because if they wanted to listen to hip hop, they could do it easily at home.

"Hardcore till i die"

For a dose of Hardcore NZ style

www.planethardcore.co.nz

HARDCORE!! ~~!!!

*waits patiently for someone to do a full hardcore gig*

So you're not gonna come out & support Hardcore in the mean time?

Come to SubUrban & have a blast! I Can't wait for it!!!!!!!

What choons you wanna hear guys?

Hell yeah I'm coming to Sub-urban.
I would like to hear:
Styles and Breeze - You're Shinning
Brisk and Ham - Angel Eyes
Brisk and Ham - Crazy Love
Digital Anarchy - Worlds Apart
CLSM - Free your mind
Scott Brown - I became hardcore

corse ill b supporting hardcore in the mean time should also b supporting gees going to hospital at suburban 2!

Will certainly accomodate some of these, though for the most part I play harder faster stuff!

In fact, my last set at planethardcore(if you were there) was a lil bit more sedate, as it was the first of the night. This time, I've been approved to go full force!!!

CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!

sounds good!
what bpm u gonna hit?

sounds good!
what bpm u gonna hit?

I usually average 180-190bpm per set.
Swee?

sounds nice and slow to me be thur!

190? Crank it up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets see how fast we can go....anyone else keen?
Ill dance as fast as i can till i have a heartattack.
Bring it on!!!

Heh, you do know that's an average speed, as opposed to a choon that speeds up to that speed...

Hee, so amped!

kris got 198bpm at juiced. i think you should try harder!

LOL!!

Believe me, if Ares wanted to - he could! I think he's just being nice!

For how long though?

I keep it fast from the first choon to the last, none of this speeding up for one track nonsense!

Besides, wouldn't want to tire you youngins out!!!

im expecting you to tire us owt!! no going soft on us now!

It wasn’t like it was just for one track or anything. I did the count about 20 mins before the end of Juiced. It must have been going at that speed for at least 35-40 mins.... Could have even been longer.

Lol, who in their right mind would do this?

Unless you're pitching down your d&b tunes by about -10% or your hardcore tunes up by about +10% you aint gonna be able to mix hardcore with d&b

Really?
You mad?

THEY ARE THE SAME SPEED!

I'm not talking Hard HOUSE (EW) I'm talking Hard-beenaroundinclubssince1994fastasfcuk180bpmaverage-core.

Dude, if you're under the false impression that Drum & Bass CAN NOT be mixed into Hardcore, I'd like to maybe make a wager.

Come to Suburban with $20 & I'll be glad to take if offa ya hands!

I heard dnb and hardcore mixed at the central party @ viper 2 fridays ago by Darkmain & Aphotic...sounded great. Really enjoyed it.

ill second that!

Burn.

I'm sure they can be mixed together..

But one or both of them are going to have to be played at an unhealthy bpm!

Jungle and hardcore, different story..

Ok, you know I think you must be right. I've only been a DJ for 8 years, what would I know...

So, you up for that bet? I'd be happy to get you $20, hell, $50 at SubUrban, IF I can't mix a modern DnB choon into Hardcore.

I had some free time on my hands so.....


Pendulum - Hold Your Colour - Average BPM = 174
11 Random tracks taken off happyhardcore.com - Average BPM = 172

Now I’m no math wiz, but with averages of 174 for the DnB and 172 for the Hardcore, you will only be moving the pitch control around 1 to 2 % (the actual difference between 172 and 174 is 1.2%)
That does not sound like unhealthy increase to me.


(Note: Although the Pendulum album has 14 tracks on it, 2 of them are under 140bpm and 1 is the intro track, so in fairness, I did not include them in the average).

Haha...don't you just always...

haha owned!!!

Yep, top marks, modern drum and bass DOES indeed average around 175(to 180) bpm, you didn't need to consult your Pendulum LP however, i'm sure even Google, or your resident 'Morning Light' fan could have told you that.

The thing is, the hardcore i'm thinking of, as in 1992, pre-Jungle business, Reinforced Records, as in DJ Ratty etc, if you get my drift, is NOWHERE NEAR 175bpm. I hope you're not talking happy-hardcore dude.. as that and 'real' hardcore are different things.

So either we are talking different genres, or you're pitching it up to the max. Either way I will, however, give you the benefit of the doubt in that i'm sure your hardcore/dnb mixes DO sound sick, and I will do my best to check 'em out sometime. Nice one.

Dude.

History of dance 101

In 1992, we had "Rave" music. An all encompasing genre that held the roots for modern day Trance, DnB, Hardcore, Hard House, Tech House, Prog, Psy Trance & House.

Happy Hardcore, is no longer a current genre, as the last Happy Hardcore tracks rolled out of the assembly line (to the sound of Darren Style's voice) in about 1999 - 2000.

Hardcore as we know it NOW, bearing in mind I buy choons copywritten THIS YEAR, is a very broad spectrum indeed, encompasing Gabber, UK Hardcore, Freeform & Hardcore it'self.

If you limit your way of thinking to "Happy Hardcore, all that chipmunk vocals & piano" you are very sadly mistaken.

Tune in tonight to Planet Hardcore Radio (6-8 on Up FM, 107.5, http://www.upfm.dj)

Some references for you:
http://www.nuenergy.co.uk/vinyl/hardcore_freeform
http://www.theclsm.co.uk
http://www.planethardcore.co.nz/

We'll be happy to bring you from 1992 to 2005!

hmmm i dont think its wise to enter battles with hardcore dj's such as Ares and DarkMain

Lol owned!!

so which djs r gona b at suburban??
i want a gig wif solid hardcore the whole time. i luv it

it will come one day son.

i can only dance to dnb

it beta. dnb is cool as 2 danc 2 bt i lyk hardcore cuz i cn use my lights
id probz rather dnb if i had ta choose

Ares will be playing the Hardcore at SubUrban

k sweet as
so ur a dj aye?

dont you just love the cats who type in "txt"

yea cuz ur a mad hardcore dj
hope u r aye

Ok then.
I'll type it out perfectly for you.
So anyway who's going to suburban?
It is going to be off the hook

itl b good depending how many gees cum into the spectrum area, thats when ill get angry! maybe psycho even....

Not at all, takes all sorts to make up life.

They'll have their Hip Hop, we'll have our dance music...



Anyone catch tonights Radio Show?

I was trying to but my stupid radio wouldn't tune in I don't think the radio frequency for that station is very strong...

Worry not Clue!!!

You can catch the show again, as well as all the past radio shows, at www.planethardcore.co.nz

Ares



Hardcore as we know it NOW, bearing in mind I buy choons copywritten THIS YEAR, is a very broad spectrum indeed, encompasing Gabber, UK Hardcore, Freeform & Hardcore it'self.

If you limit your way of thinking to "Happy Hardcore, all that chipmunk vocals & piano" you are very sadly mistaken.

I concede defeat.

Thought you meant old-school stuff.

ez

You concede defeat?

I didn't know this was a war, else I woulda brought out my big guns!

Cool cool, Grinder no harm no foul, you should check out real Hardcore sometime! If you keep an open mind, you might even like it!

For sure!