Greens back Labour

bye bye greens

it would be bye bye Greens if they'd come out in support of national

the greens rock!

roll on Nov 9

then we'll see

Oh god... I'd rather the Maori party rule alone then let the Greens anywhere near the government.

I really hope for the demise on them this election (but I doubt it) and environmental policy has become more prevalent in the major parties.

Is it true they have spiritual communions at Green Party conferences or is that just another myth (the ones about falling for the dihydrogen monoxide banning prank and wanting to lay possum ashes around to scare away possums are true though!)

I read or heard earlier this year some commentator say something like "the Greens environmental policies of 10 years ago are the national parties policies of today"

or in simpler terms, what is once seen as radical policy becomes mainstream with time, especially concerning our ever changing environment

alas the cynics are proven correct and a vote for the greens is a vote for labour and hence why clark could afford to spurn them in '04

now no reason to vote for them as they are superfluous

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apart from the obvious reasons - they are the party/candidate one wants to vote for, not everyone votes strategically

I'd suggest that a vote for the greens from some might be a protest vote against labour

Greens are a natural fit for Labour

Labour/Greens/Maori coalition is possible

but it really isn't so just vote ACT instead

There is evidence of a very strong swing to the Greens amongst undecided voters. For many left leaning New Zealanders who may believe the constant media drumbeat of "time for a change" the Greens are seen as offering that change whilst keeping the right wing bastards out. The big thing about the statements of Williamson and Lockwood Smith in recent weeks hasn't been the content of what they said - it's been the jolting reminder to many in the electorate that there is a lot of 1990's baggage still left on the National front bench.

I've long been of the view that one of reasons National had such a huge poll lead was because the angry right has tirelessly mobilised its base over the past three years, and everyone who is going to vote National has been voting National for ages now. Now the campaign is on, the swing voters seem to be heavily leaning to the Greens and to a lesser extent Labour.

Still, we will know in two weeks. I am picking the following result:

Right Block
National - 56
ACT - 2
United Future - 1

Total in a 125 seat parliament: 59

Left Block
Labour - 45
Greens - 14
Progressives - 1

Total in a 125 seat parliament: 60

Maori Party: 6

On that result, I suggest you'll see left block doing a deal on supply and confidence with the Maori party and governing with a one seat majority for the next three years.

I was talking a friend the other weekend who is the classic example, reasonably well educated on all sides of the debate and fully aware that if Greens ruled alone we would be up the shitter but they still get his vote because he understand they play important part in the overall make up of the government meaning they help keep the balance.

Greens will do well this election, NZ First will get the hammering they deserve and the rest is anyone's guess but I still hope Labour can sneak through with some fast negotiation after election day.

exactly rips

the greens, maori party, act

they are all EXCELLENT influences as PART of an mmp government

its not about governing alone, its about having actual representation of different ways of thinking finding the best middle ground (shit... sounds a lot like democracy to me!)

which is why so many doin't like it or get it - the damn proles getting a say in how they are ruled... madness

I think people have an issue with the fact that the Greens had more power last government than National did - if you get 40% of the vote (or whatever they had), you should get 40% of power. Obviously easier in theory than in practice, and it hardly bodes well when I vote ACT, but w/e lol

or ACT