GRAF

yo you guys i am asking for a little feed back to help me with a reseach paper i am working on...

bacically i want you thoughts on graf and how it fits into hip hop.. what i mean is do you think there is still a connection between all the elements??

i am mostly interested in people from welly because thats where my research is based but any one is welcome to give me their 2 cents..

and a big thank you if you do

Yo Izabela, I'm from ak and have been 2 welly only once in Dec 1999. One thing I noticed was that there wasn't actually that much graf around and the stuff that I did see was mostly from Ak - i.e. Phat1 and the TMD crew.

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This may not have much relevance, i.e. the relationship between hip hip & graf these days but just one thing I noticed.

i've noticed that graf is developing it's own identity and culture. all the other elements are kinda stayin in the hip-hop fam' but graf is growing more. b-boy's are just dudes who listen to hip-hop and watch hip-hop videos trying out the shit, emcees are listeners of hip-hop, and hiphop dj's are just dudes who wanna spin their tunes. graf is being taken up by more and more non hiphop heads. but there is still the connection, graf heads still listen to some hip-hop and a lot of them are skaters too.

this is only my opinion/observation

I'm mad keen on hiphop (when i say hiphop i
mean the music) but don't really give a shit
about the whole 'elements' biz. Graff bores me
and i don't particularly like breakdancing. It's all
about the music for me, and i think it's the same
for a lot of people i know too. Some of the
'elements' bare no relevance to me, yet i still
consider myself a hiphophead.

the "elements" thing is in the past.
its something only those known as "backpackers" still dig on.
sure they still have a major hiphop influence, but many diferent people now indulge in it.
graf is now practiced in large part by middle class art school students, thousands of miles away from the streets of NYC where it began.
many breakers use much more uptempo stuff than hiphop these days (even house) to do there thing to.
i get a lecture once from the dj from the black attack crew about how they never used hiphop for breakdancing anyway (well it all started with electro anyway)...
i really like graf miself, i used to it in my mispent youth in sth auckland.


hey frisk, off tropic totaly, you use oj36 much? (noticed it in your profile) its a pretty wicked resource for getting fresh dancehall... i prefer sticking with the local sources tho
theres some mad mad riddims around at the mo...

my spelling still sucks.

Ay J.
Been meaning to try it out. Damn cheap and
reportedly very reliable. Go hard at the Sat
dance. You just juggling or are you gonna get
nasty on 'em clash style?

Apologies for threadjacking. No PM on this
board huh?

threadjacking here we go... yeah the no PM thing is pretty stupid on a board of this size...
oj36 is pretty dope, very cheap if you buy a lot at once. quick postage too.
just jugglin saturday, wouldn't dare clash the main sound here, they have nuff specials and dubplates.

oh true
, by the way 'four' if you think theres not much graf in Auckland no dis but your wrong + cant have dont much looking. When was the ;last time u caught the train from ak to waitakere, and then to Papakura? yea, for the starter of the topic, welli graf, u want to check out Time bandits, Bodyrock chaffers park Jan 18th + 19th, welli

the graf on the lines in ak is nothing compared to what it is in melbourne.
there are wall to wall wicked bombs streching over hundreds of km's on every single train route, and the quality of the work here is outstanding, the writers are alot better than australian mc's.

izabela: Theres an old thread on GRAF from a way back with about 60 posts. You should check that out for some information.

Its on page 2 called "Tagging"

graf be rocking on and on to da break of dawn

fullayyyyy!

my flatmate has gone mad crazy in auckland photographin graf around the uni and old oriental market building .. theres a crapload out there and all unique styles ...

holla if you wanna zip file of all the pics we captured - leigh@ihug.co.nz