ITT we shall bask in the madness that is the Herald's grumpiest old man columnist, Garth George. A man who's been around since the dawn of time, and should have been put out to pasture long ago.
No one seems to be concerned that the salacious slurs cast upon these revered historical figures might bring real distress to thousands of believers, reduce many to tears and drive others to their knees in lamentation and to beseech God to forgive the perpetrators.
"Historical figures" Garth? Lamentation and beseeching? Goodness!
Also, as EtH points out, there are now COMMENTS on his column. This can only lead to more mirth!
this sort of religious diatribe has no place in a secular publication, I would have thought. he belongs in a pulpit, where he can happily preach his hellfire and brimstone, not in a newspaper office!
heh, posted this in the christian hate thread yesterday, so lame. I even commented with a long winded beautifully researched peice, but that didnt make it, instead a quote of a paranoid christian with my reply of "paranoid much" was selected as my contribution to the herald for the day. That was also ghey.
What a dipshit...
On the topic of South Park, he starts carrying on about slating Islam rather than Christianity. I guess he conveniently forgot the episodes where they do exactly that then.
That whole column is a joke. I did enjoy a moment of delicious irony when he referenced Chirst Almighty! as being concieved from 'dark and ignorant minds'.... Ummm I wonder if he considered the countless number of people that have been murdered in the name of christ, or the brainwashing of hundreds of millions of people into believing dogma that can be easily disproved using irrefutable science, logic or just some plain old common sense.
I find it absolutely hilarious that a lot of the people who have commented and can't understand why a Christian would be offended are the same people who would be quick to get offended and attack those who don't believe their views on a several topics on Your Views
yeh i know, but i was so dissapointed my epic post never made it, which would have squashed his very comments to smithereens, that i just let it go, heh.
What a dipshit...
On the topic of South Park, he starts carrying on about slating Islam rather than Christianity. I guess he conveniently forgot the episodes where they do exactly that then.
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this is the biggest irk for me, and its carried on by the faithful in the comments, who seem to think that christians are picked on more than other faiths for some reason, without realising that most haters despise all religions equally.
What a dipshit...
On the topic of South Park, he starts carrying on about slating Islam rather than Christianity. I guess he conveniently forgot the episodes where they do exactly that then.
That whole column is a joke. I did enjoy a moment of delicious irony when he referenced Chirst Almighty! as being concieved from 'dark and ignorant minds'.... Ummm I wonder if he considered the countless number of people that have been murdered in the name of christ, or the brainwashing of hundreds of millions of people into believing dogma that can be easily disproved using irrefutable science, logic or just some plain old common sense.
By definition, science has to be disprovable. So something that is "irrefutable" isn't science, it's faith, which is exactly what you claim to condemn
of late you've been sounding rather reactionary bobby d so maybe you'll fit although gg is rather liberal in his own way in the true meaning of the word
-Sunday Star Times = an "irredeemably liberal rag"
-Prince William = "a decent sort of bloke", "no stranger to eccentricity"
-Garth = would like to "soar in helicopters and other flying machines"
-Keith Locke = "sinister"
tbh, and it hurts me to say this about GG, i agree with quite a bit of that article.
Yeah, I don't have any feelings either way on the subject really, but his point makes sense. It just wouldn't be right for the Garthwatch thread if I couldn't find anything to pick on
Let's give him some credit. He has managed to distinguish between paedophiles and homosexuals, which is more than we might have expected. I like his explanation for not "touching" more often on male homosexuality, homosexuals being a far more "infinitesimal minority" than pedophiles. I suspect that the lack of writing on homosexuals has less to do with their minority status and more to do with the fact that the editor sat him down and told him that it was the twenty-first century, and he wasn't allowed to do it anymore because advertisers would complain. As for the vegan/vegetarian distinction, that's just the sort of quality, Google-led research I've come to expect from Garth.
I have written often about child abuse and paedophilia, have touched on male homosexuality but find it expedient these days simply to ignore such an infinitesimal minority, and every time I encounter a vegan or vegetarian (I'm told there's a difference) I simply shake my head in wonder.
Well that was weird... but then I suppose we've all talked to an elderly relative and had the same experience of conversation suddenly veering off course. Then again, most senile old folk don't have columns in the country's leading daily newspaper, a column which has swung from righteous rage at animal abuse to advice on getting a dog.
Our new national flag will, I desperately hope, not be a Maori flag. A flag representing a minority race, not a cosmopolitan nation, would be as inappropriate as our existing flag, which is essentially British.
The tino rangatiratanga flag is definitely out. Red and black are not only the colours of death but colours associated with anarchy and pan-Arabism.
And any other flag that has a Maori theme should not even be considered. The national flag must be representative of an independent nation in all its complexity yet must at the same time be simple and instantly recognisable.
As a last resort, perhaps, considering that we are infested by thieving Australian-owned banks and businesses owned by multinational corporations, which annually suck billions of dollars out of our economy - thanks to Douglas and co and their successors - we could well consider appropriating the Jolly Roger.
....~ ~ I suspect that the lack of writing on homosexuals has less to do with their minority status and more to do with the fact that the editor sat him down and told him that it was the twenty-first century...
That is total gold Kris.
My god, I wish someone would interview and ask him straight: do you think gay people are paedos? Yes or no...
Fucking Herald Fucking Insane for printing this crap.
Environmentalist David Suzuki made the point recently: If there are scientists who believe in creation who dont get media time to create the impression that doubt exists in the scientific community about how life came into being, why is it that the tiny proportion of scientists who deny global warming are taken seriously, as if there is doubt about climate change???
Environmentalist David Suzuki made the point recently: If there are scientists who believe in creation who dont get media time to create the impression that doubt exists in the scientific community about how life came into being, why is it that the tiny proportion of scientists who deny global warming are taken seriously, as if there is doubt about climate change???
Nice way to sum it up. The overwhelming majority of experts on the subject have one view and only a very very very tiny oppose it. As with minor opinion-makers, they scream louder to be heard. They may be proven right one day but there is about as much chance of it as the controlled demolition 9/11 'experts' also being right.
Fucking Herald Fucking Insane for printing this crap.
Environmentalist David Suzuki made the point recently: If there are scientists who believe in creation who dont get media time to create the impression that doubt exists in the scientific community about how life came into being, why is it that the tiny proportion of scientists who deny global warming are taken seriously, as if there is doubt about climate change???
1 is it a tiny minority who deny (or at least are sceptical of) global warming?
2 the herald has an oblgation to print all views
3 scientists who believe in creationism have expressed their views in the herald
Fucking Herald Fucking Insane for printing this crap.
Environmentalist David Suzuki made the point recently: If there are scientists who believe in creation who dont get media time to create the impression that doubt exists in the scientific community about how life came into being, why is it that the tiny proportion of scientists who deny global warming are taken seriously, as if there is doubt about climate change???
1 is it a tiny minority who deny (or at least are sceptical of) global warming?
2 the herald has an oblgation to print all views
3 scientists who believe in creationism have expressed their views in the herald
Wow, open the flood-gates - flat-earthers and one million other fringe philosophers stand up, the Herald is your pulpitt. To hell with informing the public we are cruising shit creek without a paddle, the media have a new crazy each day to entertain and baffle you
'Diversity' is not the same as entertaining fools.
Climate warming is a hoax. It must be. Garth said so yesterday. Now that bleeding half-wit Jim Hopkins in the same column-space today informs us in his tedious 'witty and entertaining' style that an important scientist has discovered "no significant warming since 1995".
I suppose it was inevitable that the feeding frenzy about various “gates” in the British press would attract the attention of the wise old man of Rotorua, Garth George. In today’s Herald he emerges from his sulphurous lair to add his muted sqeak to the hubbub.
So, do newspapers reflect society or the other way round? Frankly, I don't give a damn as long as my newspapers keep arriving every day and continue to contain serious, intelligent news, information and analysis that you can't get anywhere else.
*ring ring* Hello, Subscription Department? The boy isn't delivering my paper! Oh I'm sorry sir that's very usual, what's your.... Where's my paper! I pay for my paper where is it?!?! Sir, if you just give me your details I can see abou..... WHERE'S MY PAPER. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING WITH IT? WAIT THERE'S SOMEONE ON MY DAMN LAWN HEY YOU WHO ARE YOU BOY?!?!
Not that I have any objection to Whanau Ora being just for Maori. Separatism has been the order of the Maori day for decades now and if Whanau Ora manages to alleviate the dreadful social problems that afflict that race, then all of us would benefit.
Its pretty clear to me that those cheekie darkies need the help of enlightened, socially superior white men like Garth to become productive members of society. Unbelievable. (he did have some valid points, but that whole article came across as condescending in the extreme).
Garth George has this climate science stuff sorted out, it's a scam you see. And even if it weren't, New Zealand's emissions make such a tiny proportion of the worlds carbon dioxide we should just do nothing. You want evidence or New Zealand's tiny carbon footprint? Well, George doesn't need evidence because he has his suspicions:
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I suspect that the eruption of Mt Eyjafjallajokull in Iceland shot more gases into the atmosphere in five minutes than New Zealand would in five years.
But, as Gareth Renowden points out at Hot Topic, George's suspicions don't match the data. In order to work out how much carbon dioxide Mt Unpronounceable (Paul Litterick's joke, not mine) was shooting into the atmosphere the Guardian took the surprising step of asking some scientists. The upper bound of their estimates is 300 000 tonnes of carbon dioxide per day (or about 1040 tonnes in 5 minutes). Impressive, but not much when compared with the 377 million tonnes New Zealanders managed between 2004 and 2008.
Amazingly, Garth George's estimate is out by a factor of 2.75 million. That's equivalent to estimating the driving distance between Dunedin and Auckland as being 60cm. I couldn't let a week that combined such breathtaking stupidity with this nice infographic go without memorialising George's folly:
follow link for graphs and charts and pictures of wombats http://theatavism.blogspot.com/2010/04/garth-george-wrong-wrong-275-million.html
On Robin Brooke and Andy Haden's defence of him.....
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"Surely it is perfectly logical to acknowledge that if female groupies attach themselves to sportsmen, drink with them and take them home, chances are they'll end up screwed."
and
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players in recent years should surely have warned any sports-loving young woman to stay well away unless she is prepared to go all the way.
Awwww, I've been so slack with this, but at least I'm reminded to keep up with it by something so utterly true to form. The old "bitch deserved it" defence!
a classy essay from the man today, makes one proud
G-Dub (443)
Adequately hidden thunder...
1 year ago
That one is straight up unbelievable, I honestly can not believe the Herald printed it. "Maori walk slow to piss off white people" and "rugby players rape so woman shouldn't be around them". Hole. E. Shit.
That one is straight up unbelievable, I honestly can not believe the Herald printed it. "Maori walk slow to piss off white people" and "rugby players rape so woman shouldn't be around them". Hole. E. Shit.
I couldn't believe the Herald was agreeing to print such hateful, racist diatribe
no, we really DO want you to keep your thoughts to yourself on this occasion, Garth
from my perspective not a bad effort today Mr George....
"But what bothers me the most about all this chaos is that I've been hearing and reading similar things for at least 30 years, if not more.
And I've been reading and hearing the politicians utter the same sort of platitudes and promises to fix the problems and passing the same sort of ineffective band-aid legislation to deal with them, for the same amount of time.
And all that has happened is that the chaos has got worse - because no set of governing politicians has ever had the guts to legislate unpopular but really effective solutions. "
We hear ad nauseam about the need to increase investment and productivity, yet our biggest employers treat their employees as a bum on a seat, a mind and a pair of hands to be exploited, rather than as a person.
yup
after 10 years as an IT worker with a 6 year old computer and only 1 days training at their expense in all that time I told them to shove it.
we know theres fierce competition between the, what two, supermarket companies
theres no shortage of soild justifications for the difference betwen what we pay here and others pay elsewhere for our goods - most are very believable... but don't dispel the very real feeling we top dollar for average foodstuff (refer to the herald comment on garths column re oranges)
Yeah but I wonder who is making the momeny - average margins in supermarkets are around 2% though because they use loss leaders there may be a lot of variation. I wonder if its the places like fonterra or turners and growers that are making large margins.
Definitely worth looking into it and while a right wing party may be more keen to let a market set a price they still want to make sure there isnt collusion or cartels.
Theres usually not enough info to prosecute but shining a light on it often has an effect. It is the govt job to make sure the market is getting enough information to make decisions.