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Hadn't been paying attention to this until today... when i saw NEW FRICKIN ORDER on the lineup up! Was not familiar with them when they played BDO in 02 (03?) so have been praying they would reform at some point.

So there!

Lineup:
Swedish House Mafia
New Order
Fatboy Slim
Paul Van Dyke
Tinie Tempah
The Wombats
Chase and Status (live)
Skrillix
Jessie J
The Rapture
Aphex Twin (live)
Frank Ocean
Die Antwoord
Gareth Emery
LCD Soundsystem DJs (James Murphy and Pat Mahony)
Naked and Famous
Hercules and Love Affair
Sven Vath
Alex Metric
Azari and Ill
Friendly Fires
Gym Class Heroes
Mark Ronson Vs Zane Lowe
Knife Party
Professor Green
Kill The Noize
Flux Pavillion
Porter Robinson
Oliver Huntemann
John O’Callahan
Dubfire
Jamie Jones
Holy Ghost!
Horse Meat Disco
The Juan MacLean
Benoit and Sergio
Stafford Brothers



Anyone else planning on going?
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decent lineup....

New Order without Peter Hook seems a bit wrong to me.... (first saw them in 84, they were wicked)

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Dubfire, and Sven Vath!!
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Sven Vath! Cause being over 40 and constantly wasted is awesome when you play sweet, sweet tunes like that man can.

Hunterman and Dubfire also will be epic
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Huntemann, Dubfire, Vath + New Order...makes me very tempted to go even though I've sworn off going to festivals at Flemington, fucking cunt of a venue
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I'll be there. PVD front and center!
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I'd go for Aphex Twin alone...
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gah its in Ozzie
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Bought flights, just need to organise tickets to gig.
Tine Tempah and Chase and Status work great at RnV
Haven't seen Fat Boy Slim since Japan around 6 years ago.
Last time I saw Paul Van Dyk it was at powerstation.
Such a great line up- really looking forward to it
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Decent lineup but I went a few years ago and it was a let down.

Loads of people, shit sound systems and a barrier set up for the main stage which meant it took about half an hour to get in, sound so poor you could barely hear it outside the barrier (which was in view of the stage), and no toilets inside it so once you left it you had to queue again.
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Pretty average line up imo. These festivals seem to increasingly be running with line ups that are a couple of big band - preferably from the 80s - and then start with second string DJs. The top level DJs seem to be missing out - perhaps they're pricing themselves too close to full bands and organisers are saying "enough"?

On that lineup I'd pay money to see Hercules & Love Affair, Azari and Ill, Holy Ghost! and maybe Aphex Twin... aside from that it looks a pretty uninspiring bunch of obvious hit-makers and overrated fly-by-nighters. (not including New Order obviously)
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top level DJs are vastly more expensive than many bands and often have more cross over appeal (the mining of the 80s as tired as I think that is is a case in point) and thus pulling power

many festivals lineups just scream lazy booking really.... or is that conservative booking polices

if it was the wombles not the wombats I'd so go
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FRANK OCEAN!

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bob daktari said:
top level DJs are vastly more expensive than many bands and often have more cross over appeal (the mining of the 80s as tired as I think that is is a case in point) and thus pulling power

many festivals lineups just scream lazy booking really.... or is that conservative booking polices

I agree completely. This line-up basically has no top Djs at all other than PVD who isn't really my thing. They have some big names, but no real big guns with any long-term clout other than Sven.
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I read the Wombles at first.
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Wombles are far too underground for Future Music



saying that they did play glastonbury this year

sell outs!
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RobW said:
bob daktari said:
top level DJs are vastly more expensive than many bands and often have more cross over appeal (the mining of the 80s as tired as I think that is is a case in point) and thus pulling power

many festivals lineups just scream lazy booking really.... or is that conservative booking polices

I agree completely. This line-up basically has no top Djs at all other than PVD who isn't really my thing. They have some big names, but no real big guns with any long-term clout other than Sven.


Doesn't really matter what you guys think about long term clout - heaps of munters right now are into shite like swedish house mafia or skrillex so I'm sure it'll be a big gig.
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Dubfire and Fat Boy Slim has no long term clout?!?!

Rob, you'd never be happy with any festival line up unless it had Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles and Danny Tenaglia on it
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Bn1 said:
Doesn't really matter what you guys think about long term clout - heaps of munters right now are into shite like swedish house mafia or skrillex so I'm sure it'll be a big gig.

For sure. In doing that they're trying to cater to people who don't like dance music.
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Insanity said:
Dubfire and Fat Boy Slim has no long term clout?!?!

Rob, you'd never be happy with any festival line up unless it had Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles and Danny Tenaglia on it

Ha ha... I actually don't think either Dubfire of FBS have long term clout as top DJs. Making big tunes is not Djing.

To me the top Djs with with long-term clout are like Digweed, Cox, Luciano, Sanchez, Sasha and maybe even a couple like May, Pullen, Mills, Knuckles, Dimitri From Paris, Morales etc.. (even if I don't personally dig all of them, they're top guns outside of trance). Festivals, especially in Australia, have gone downhill big-time in terms of the curve of their acts. They seem to run with a number of old bands and then tons of "now" acts, most of whom will probably be gone in 2 years. They do this not because of an artistic theme/aim but because they know they can save money and the munter crowd, as mentioned above, will be in a Big Day Out headspace and likely not care much as long as they're with a bunch of mates and have their pills/alcohol sorted..
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On Bn1's comment about it not mattering about what we think about long-term clout... for sure, that's the line used by every future bankrupt event promoter when they put token effort into the entertainment when they put on gigs.
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Dance events in Aus have always relied on the munter crowd to pull them through. It's a fucking big crowd over there. I'd hazard a guess and say bigger than here. THe lack of decent acts has more to do with the lack of decent acts in dance music these days.
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RobW said:
To me the top Djs with with long-term clout are like Digweed, Cox, Luciano, Sanchez, Sasha and maybe even a couple like May, Pullen, Mills, Knuckles, Dimitri From Paris, Morales etc.. (even if I don't personally dig all of them, they're top guns outside of trance). Festivals, especially in Australia, have gone downhill big-time in terms of the curve of their acts. They seem to run with a number of old bands and then tons of "now" acts, most of whom will probably be gone in 2 years. They do this not because of an artistic theme/aim but because they know they can save money and the munter crowd, as mentioned above, will be in a Big Day Out headspace and likely not care much as long as they're with a bunch of mates and have their pills/alcohol sorted..


I reckon Dubfire/Deep Dish are pretty up there...but whatevs

And you're wrong, the crowds DO care, they care lots about these shit-ass "now" acts, that's why they're on the bill over the quality we'd prefer...fact of the matter is, we are not (city) festival demographic anymore...it's all about the 18-24 YO's and to them, LMFAO and Skillrex rule and "why the fuck is Stacey Pullen?" Laughing

This is the first time FMF has included any old "bands"...some years there haven't been any...NERD and Basement Jaxx, but they're hardly "bands"...Franz Ferdinand last year was the only band...Empire Of The Sun, too, but again, not really a band, and not at all old
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There's some sweet festivals in Aus, but none of them cater to the older dance crowd. There's too few of us to make a profit Razz
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spike said:
Dance events in Aus have always relied on the munter crowd to pull them through. It's a fucking big crowd over there. I'd hazard a guess and say bigger than here. THe lack of decent acts has more to do with the lack of decent acts in dance music these days.[b/]


In you opinion Razz

Not even so much just "munters", but youngsters set the trends here...most of the big festivals still have some solid acts on them from the prog/tech/house/techno fields, but go to those stages when their own and it's like a whole different world compared to the crowd main stage...add at least 8 years to the faces and remove some of the gear...all in all, it's a much better environment Laughing

You have to put up with the crap if you want some quality there, tho, those people make the numbers, without them, there wouldn't be any festival which had Aphex Twin, Dubfire, Hunteman, New Order, Sven Vath on its lineup as it wouldn't get enough sales by itself

And as much as they suck in many sense, they're also a lot of fun...I mean last year we got Loco Dice into Leftfield Live into Sven Vath into Plastikman Live with only about 5000 going nuts in the tent...you don't get that without the crap to fill the seats
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spike said:
There's too few of us to make a profit Razz


Yerp...basically you have to make the missions to likes of Rainbow Serpent to get quality acts all day and an old crowd...but then you have to deal with hippies! Laughing
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Rob - check out this mix if you don't know Benoit and Sergio www.fabriclondon.com/blog/view/audio-benoit-sergio-fabric-promo-mix

I'd like to see James Murphy and Pat Mahony (If you haven't listened to their FabricLive you should), Jamie Jones, Horse Meat Disco and The Juan MacLean as well as the ones you named Rob. But probably not enough to get me through a day of agro fucktard Skrillix fan boys.
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RobW said:
On Bn1's comment about it not mattering about what we think about long-term clout... for sure, that's the line used by every future bankrupt event promoter when they put token effort into the entertainment when they put on gigs.


Yeah and I should point out in case it's not clear that I don't agree with that line of thinking.

There are good electronic festivals around the world with solid lineups (labyrinth/freerotation/unsound come to mind) but all of them cater to a specific niche audience that doesn't exist in a large enough quantity in AU/NZ to meet the expense of running such a festival.
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Insanity said:
...NERD



NERD is a band. They certainly tour as one big one.



Jeez Rob, get outta the 90's already. I mean Morales? Really? I loved him in the 90's but what has he done for me lately? Razz