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I had a screaming row with the cashier at my Mobil station this morning, seriously I was shouting in his face.. what happened was I paid for my petrol but pulled my cashflow card out of the machine too quick so no receipt came out…but the payment went through, I knew this because I went to try again and it declined as I’d put only $35 in that account and paid $20.00 so obviously if I tried to deduct the amount again it would decline. I knew straight away the guy started saying I was a liar about 10 times, which fired me up… So I brought up my bank statement on my phone to show him the payment had been deducted – the only way they would give me the petrol I paid for was if I completed a form that said “To pay for petrol” though I wrote all over it that I had paid and had proof – and would only pay if the money was refunded to my account”… clearly the hot builder guys in the Mobil station probably thought I was crazy but seriously .. WTF~ so for now until forever unless it is a dire emergency life or death I will never go to another Mobil station in my life.

That is all. I am still pissed off. / rant.
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" but pulled my cashflow card out of the machine too quick so no receipt came out"

huh?
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Oh I've got a "debit" card so you have to "insert" it... I pulled it out before the receipt came out but it still deducted.
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Still have no idea what you're talking about tbh!
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Really. lol.. it made sense to me..
But yeah pretty much doesn't matter anyway lol
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Chip card. No swipey on machines that support chip cards. Card gets stuck into machine and left there till end of transaction. Awfully slow over dialup. Do you people never set foot inside a fucking shop or restaurant or bar or something?
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What are you saying? I just put my chip card in the machine, then take it out … the money deducted he said it didn’t and I didn’t pay and was lying.. I showed proof and they reluctantly gave me my petrol as I wasn’t going anywhere without it…
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I was explaining to the others.
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wtf.. If you paid for the petrol then just leave? Let them sort their own shit out.

edit: (oh, unless it was prepay?)
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the gfc fallout continues
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Yeah I paid and it shows clearly on my bank statement which I showed them .. why would the bank give me the money back which is what the cashier thought would happen because their eftpos didn’t give him a receipt. I was so irate as I don’t need to thieve petrol nor would I and to be told to my face I would.. not a good idea buddy. Not just that I dropped my bottle of Dolce and Gabbana Light Blue in my garage and it smashed so was not in the best mood anyway…

LOL. My life sounds dramatic.. it’s not really and I am quite laid back I just seem to attract annoying situations.
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Sounds like operator error to me. Doubt it has much to do with pulling the card out. When I buy petrol I've already removed my card, then the guy asks me if I would like a receipt. Surely notification of successful transaction of funds would be independent of requiring the card still being in the machine. As it would not be an uncommon occurrence.
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kris_b said:
Chip card. No swipey on machines that support chip cards. Card gets stuck into machine and left there till end of transaction. Awfully slow over dialup. Do you people never set foot inside a fucking shop or restaurant or bar or something?

Yes. And I swipe my card as per normal. I still have no idea what you're going on about Razz
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If your card has a chip, and the eftpos machine accepts chips, you can't swipe it afaik?
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Yeah that's right iirc. So QT's card has a chip? If she pulled it out too fast then the transaction wouldn't have gone through?
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spike said:
Yeah that's right iirc. So QT's card has a chip? If she pulled it out too fast then the transaction wouldn't have gone through?


It did go through, the amount deducted from my account.

You would think it wouldn't .. but it DID.
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Why didn't you just leave after you confirmed the funds had come out of your account?
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Hang on, so you paid for your gas after you pumped it in? And he didn't think you paid for it?

If that's the case, yeah fuck him and just leave.
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OH, CHIP CARD. They're fucken annoying :<

You can still swipe them though. On some machines.
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jbs said:
Why didn't you just leave after you confirmed the funds had come out of your account?


Because the gas was pre pay so I had to pay before they would give it to me.. so if I left I would have no gas.

I hadn't already pumped the gas.

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minxie said:
OH, CHIP CARD. They're fucken annoying :<

You can still swipe them though. On some machines.


That's a fuck up though, all those machines are supposed to have gone by now.

SO. FUCKING. SLOW. Fuckers need to get with the times and put some fucking broadband in already. (That's why some are slow and some are fast, broadband vs dialup)
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Christ, dialup still exists? Fail.

QT - OH, PRE PAY. It just gets better heh. Prepay sucks. Mobil are the only ones that seem to do it. Power to the boycott!

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I haven't been to a Mobil in years. I was talking to Shyguy about them once who was telling me how inept they are as a company.
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Go well, Go Shell.........oh, that's right, we got the fuck outt of there! Razz
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There is Mobil just around the corner from me but I refuse to use them because they are always on prepay
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Insanity said:
Go well, Go Shell.........oh, that's right, we got the fuck outt of there! Razz

Yeah we now have Z. Far better Razz
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kris_b said:
minxie said:
OH, CHIP CARD. They're fucken annoying :<

You can still swipe them though. On some machines.


That's a fuck up though, all those machines are supposed to have gone by now.

SO. FUCKING. SLOW. Fuckers need to get with the times and put some fucking broadband in already. (That's why some are slow and some are fast, broadband vs dialup)


you guys still use chip cards???
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Nah bro most of us have chips in our head now. All we need to do to pay is just look at the cashier. Get with the times man Rolling Eyes
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What do you use BF?
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minxie said:
Christ, dialup still exists? Fail.

QT - OH, PRE PAY. It just gets better heh. Prepay sucks. Mobil are the only ones that seem to do it. Power to the boycott!



For EFTPOS terminals, yeah, it's the most common way. What, you've never had to wait for the dairy narg to yell at his wife to get off the phone so your transaction goes through? Razz

And for internet too, in a lot more places than you imagine. Edit: Mobil? Fuck no, every man and his dog rolls prepay these days. Bullshit. Wish they'd do a proper EFTPOS-at-pump setup again, and not one that breaks down most of the time like Mobil's old shit did.
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PhunkyDave said:
What do you use BF?


Presumably something like Tap & Go or other contactless thing.
http://www.mastercard.us/paypass.html

Chip & Pin has actually been a step backwards for NZ consumers, since we've lived with universal EFTPOS for so damn long compared to advanced countries like the US and UK. All because of the speed thing, mostly. Even on broadband, it's still slower than conventional EFTPOS.
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spike said:
Nah bro most of us have chips in our head now. All we need to do to pay is just look at the cashier. Get with the times man Rolling Eyes


That's why the hot chick at the counter kept giving me the eyes!

I wondered where all my savings went Sad
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kris_b said:
PhunkyDave said:
What do you use BF?


Presumably something like Tap & Go or other contactless thing.
http://www.mastercard.us/paypass.html


Yeah we use this now in Sydney. Only works with most recent cards though.

In the picture on that website, why is the person holding a smart phone up to the reader?
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davil said:
In the picture on that website, why is the person holding a smart phone up to the reader?


Because they are starting to build the contactless chips into phones now. Google Samsung Galaxy Nexus S Ace Super 2 notably, using the 'Near Field Communications' label.
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Cool, so how will that work with your credit card?
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My new AirNZ OneSmart card is contactless too. Haven't seen too many retailers offering it yet, but haven't been looking really.
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We have it in your average joe six pack run of the mill corner store here.
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kris_b said:
davil said:
In the picture on that website, why is the person holding a smart phone up to the reader?


Because they are starting to build the contactless chips into phones now. Google Samsung Galaxy Nexus S Ace Super 2 notably, using the 'Near Field Communications' label.


Interestingly, CBA (commonwealth bank of australia) now have an iPhone case you can buy for $50 which has NFC somehow, and a fancy new app to control it. Was thinking of giving it a go, but I already have PayPass on my card, so probably not much point.
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davil said:
We have it in your average joe six pack run of the mill corner store here.

Never heard of that store.
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spike said:
davil said:
We have it in your average joe six pack run of the mill corner store here.

Never heard of that store.


That's because it's only in Sydney, and there's only one outlet.
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Oh its just our PayWave (which is what they call it here) cards still have the chip in them because PayWave is only good for up to $100, and you can't PayWave at ATM's. So I was wondering what chipless card BF uses?
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There was a big kerfuffle over the MasterCard Tap & Go shit at RWC - lots of concession stands didn't have EFTPOS machines, only Tap & Go, what with MasterCard being a major sponsor.

MasterCard: HEY GUYS CHECK OUT OUR SWEET NEW ELECTRONIC PAYMENT SYSTEM!
Kiwis: What do you mean I can't use EFTPOS? What is this savagery? Might as well be hauling around stone tablets to trade with while smearing faeces on our cave walls.
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Laughing Tap and Go/Pay Wave is all of about 5 seconds faster than your average EFT-POS transaction anyways...did that mean they didn't accept VISA either, only MC?
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That's fucked. What kind of retards decide not to have eftpos machines at an event where 99% of people only have eftpos cards? Someone better have got fired for that.
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Insanity said:
Laughing Tap and Go/Pay Wave is all of about 5 seconds faster than your average EFT-POS transaction anyways...did that mean they didn't accept VISA either, only MC?


The few EFTPOS terminals worked as normal, but no, the Tap & Go terminals ONLY accepted MasterCard.
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spike said:
Someone better have got fired for that.


More likely promoted :/
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Love corporate reasoning.
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PhunkyDave said:
What do you use BF?


Contactless card/paypass/tap and go or whatever you want to call it.
so fast, in fact it is almost instant.

Chip and pin is even super slow here in the UK, slower than old school swipe method.
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