FUCK!

Oh btw, where the fuck is the moderation now? Jesus christ this place is unbelievable.

holy shit, you sound like a psycho.

no the first attack was by kris b, then we apparently resolved the situation in that first thread.

then Tthehf w/e his name is made a dedicated flame thread. the rest you know.

imo just write a scathing post about some nz clubbing brand that advertises here.
Moderation be all up in your bidness then Smiley

It's truly fucked. My respect for this site is dropping and dropping.

i sound like a psycho because someone i thought i could trust doesn't have my back at all?

if he was a friend he would've told kris b to stfu when he first flamed me, but no, instead Smiley the arse sends me emails lecturing me, on and on, because i responded in kind to kris b. apparently it's ok for me to be flamed but not ok to flame back.

it should've ended there. then tThehf w/e his name is made a thread, and what you know, still no backup from my alleged friend.

as far as "making friends who are cool" goes, you have to be kidding. i know what i've seen here. nothing cool about this lot.

Fuck, this is like high school! Look at what I've been missing out on!! Awesome!!

I think this needs some more hair pulling and name calling.

Is that honestly your interpretation of events? Poor little angela minding her own business was flamed by big bad kris_b, and then mobbed by TtheHF when you had enough and responded in kind? I mean come on... you're pretty fucking warped :> You think kris_b had a go for no reason whatsoever? It's because you were being a blatant cunt? Not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand

You asked me to back off from anything you posted, you said you could handle yourself.

I didn't want you to attack people cos I wanted to take you out and meet people, I didn't see how insulting them first would help that.

I may not have handled things perfectly in hindsight but none of us have.

being a blatent cunt. what - saying "don't ask me, i hate long term house guests" (yes that's the comment kris b flamed me for) is me being a cunt?

you must be joking, right?

Yes, that and the fact that smiley is Kris's friend too? And he clearly sat on the fence though out the entire affair. Which is fair.

ok all other things aside - it is your inability to shut the fuck up that is significantly contributing to this three ringed circus.

Step away from the boards and take to private communication. Most people when they get burned stop touching the thing burning them.

have at thee

This is what's cracking me up/confusing me the most.

It seems like most people have been having pretty light-hearted fun with this, and then every post you make Smiley it's all absolute serious business and just makes the whole thing infinitely more angsty heh.

'How to make basic social interactions all fucked up and complex' 101 tbh

what kris b said to me was the first flame. it wouldn't even have occured to me to flame that guy. it was entirely unprovoked.

Smiley there should've had enough decency to step up and tell his "friend" to not to be an arse. only person who got told this from Smiley there is me, and i was the one who got flamed.

sooo, meh.

Wasn't kris_b's first so-called flame something along the lines of a sarcasm laced: 'Thank you for your contribution"? Hardly the trogdor treatment.

^ perhaps. BUT, you then went on to insult every other person who posted thereafter, even if they weren't 'flaming' you... there's where things took a wrong turn yeah?

/waits to be called fatty/geek/ugly

actually it went like this -









sooo...where was it me being a cunt? who started flaming?

link - http://www.biggie.co.nz/discussion/how_soon_is_too_soon_3

yep ^^ jono & minxie's posts i agree with.

Ang - how do you even know smiley was reading the boards when kris_b's made his sarcastic and joking first comment? smiley might have only started reading once you went crazy and started insulting everyone else?! and even THEN he still sat on the fence about the whole thing,

his first post wasnt too over the top but both sides escalated it... then someone just went all out on charm.

But its pointless to try and explain it,

i was on msn, then shut it down after he acted like the fault was entirely mine, then subsequently in email communication with him through this (he started phoning me/knocking on my window/emailing me after i stopped responding to his crap).

he saw the whole thing.

then after a bit of this, he goes and publically posts in that thread, and made the whole thing worse.

heh dont ask someone to chose sides, knowing smiley he was doing what he thought best for all concerned. A fault perhaps but not an unforgivable one.

Hopefully he learns to stay out of other peoples issues.

i shut down msn/communications with the guy because he really knows how to lecture, but rarely listens. wasn't worth the pain to my ears.

yeah but he doesn't stay out of it does he. he lectures one side (me) despite the flame starting with another friend, then goes and makes a public post and escalates the issue.

oops quote instead of edit. Well im done anyway.

For sure, but if youre looking for sympathy you might have the wrong place.

I layed into reaction because I thought that was what you wanted. I was trying to defend you and prove loyalty. I don;t usually have to go to such extremes with friends but I did with you. It wasn't what you wanted me to do. But fuck how am I supposed to know what you want when you wont TALK to me.

IT. IS. ENTIRELY. BATSHIT!

DO. NOT. COMMUNICATE. WITH. IT!

YOUR. BUNNIES. WILL. BE. BOILED!

I know I know... it's like a scabby wound that's itchy.

But that is me now. unless she says something really really stupid.

if someone flames a friend in a personal attack kind of way (and i did think i was considered a friend) then tell the person flaming to stfu.

these kinds of ethics should come naturally. why doesn't it with you?

i only ask you to stay out of things when i'm internet trolling, and things aren't personal.

do you understand the difference?

as for this guy Chris. he's a total arse. you'll see this one day i can guarantee it.

hah. as soon as Smiley says I'm out.. all the childish crap starts again to wind him up.

What a horrible person you must be to treat your friend like that "angela" it's really nasty and you should be ashamed of yourself.

you really don't see much do you.

stay the fuck out of it, your contribution is meaningless.

You are now bringing up ethics? Are you really that insane?? REALLY??!

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God, I'm pleased you proved how entirely unstable you are before getting introduced in person. I've not yet (not YET, fuckers *Dixon*) samurai sowrded anyone but you could have been my first, I reckon

I dont know what drives you to get involved in other peoples problems Chris but you will have learnt by now it seldom a) works b) ends well for you. Thats not to say you shouldnt help people but only when they actually ask for it and only to a level that is still responsible for yourself. Now I'm going to break my own rule and suggest you just. stop. posting. In fact go for a walk, without your phone.

And dont play the victim, its unhealthy.

yeah i know where you're at. you're just some gimp to me. total fuckin arse.

btw threatening to kill people makes you look insane.

people on both sides wanted me involved.
Except they didn't.

No, they did.

ummmm. which one was it guys?

And don't let her make you a victim of her crazy

Victim.

Jeeeps you kids are still going.

A couple of the girls did but they were wrong to ask you to involve yourself, as it's a lose lose situation for you, but they probably didn't think about it. And El Donna de la Guano wanted you to too, but then she really is better suited to acting as a fertilizing agent rather than acting like a human, so her views don't really count

Ang - i'm not really going to get into it too much - i too have had the biggie mafia abuse in the past... worse than what you got (initially, before you made it worse )... but from what i have read, Smiley has been completely fair through out all this, and that you are expecting is a bit too much and unfair given the circumstances. From what i know of smiley, he is 100% trustworthy and loyal.

Anyways, i can't be bothered with anything more - don't waste too much time with all this, it's just going to go round and round in circles on the boards here.. nothing good will come from it.

i'm aware of this, and i also know Chris thought he was doing the right thing.

it's just that this time he really wasn't, and actually even managed to make it worse. i can''t have people like this in my life. sorry Chris, you really do miss a lot of what goes on. these guys played your drama for their own amusement. they don't give a shit about you.

Heh, had I seen it I would've stepped in buddy. A couple of times I've stepped in for the minority when people have been ganging up on others, and I feel uncomfortable being included in the "mafia" as I only intended to yell the cunt down, but obviously this time the majority was justified and so perhaps there are times when the majority ARE entirely right.

yeah, this be exceptional circumstances.

just fuck off.

This thread isn't really 'moved' as much as 'copied'

yeah that's how it's supposed to go Smiley.

Awww look, our little sociopath is trying to mess with people's heads. So cute! Like... I dunno... a rabid badger that sprays disease out of its arse and has poison lazers for eyes ^_^

furry.

haha, yeah i didn't use that term in an offensive way or anything.. was just the simplest to put it.

Oh God, your tryign to compare yourself to davil actually just broke my perception of reality a little. That someone can see their world in such a skewed light is absolutly astonishing!

what part of fuck off do you not understand.

you think you have a target here? sure, you have that, but i'm not a victim.

fuck off asshole. i know where you're at.

Don't let the days go by...
Glycerine

just regarding the "internet is not real life" school of thought - it's rubbish

i think i know what people are trying to say by that (IRL as a distinction to cyberspace) - but still - let's get real. the internet is a mode of communication just like any other. but we wouldn't call a conversation between two people in a room together "not real life" or a text message or a letter or a phone call - so what's the diff?

given that people have been convicted and sent to jail for things said/done on the internet, or sued for defamation ... i think that's very much "real life" isn't it? what about the peeps who have been cheated on via the net, relationships broken up etc because of things said/done on the net ... that's real life.

it's still all happening in the real world.

Good times!!

1. Smiley and Angela have tentatively decided to try and be friends
2. Angela thinks Smiley takes Biggie too seriously
3. Smiley wants Angela to meet up with Biggies and meet them IRL- Angela isn’t fussed

-Angela comes onto Biggie and starts flaming people +5 (for entertainment value)
-KrisB criticizes Angela’s (lame) post in a thread, because he finds her irritating -1
-Angela calls KrisB fat -50

-Smiley emails Angela discussing how she should post on Biggie -10

This makes Angela angry!
-Angela decides to teach Smiley a lesson about the importance he places on Biggie by flaming people unprovoked, she also drops Smiley in it by repeating some stuff he said about an old Biggie member

-Making Smiley look bad in front of his friends -500000 (kinda mean and unnecessary)
-Repeating stuff about JBB -5000
-Smiley getting all angsty about it and tells people to stay out of it / while trying to distance himself by telling Angela publicly that she has let him down etc -10
-Angela gets called a ‘c*nt’ by tons of Biggies -1000
-Smiley continues to go on about personal stuff on Biggie despite the fact that he has already ‘taken it to email’ -50
-Everyone has a great time reading as all the drama unfolds

Smiley- Angela doesn’t seem to like Biggie and / or ‘Biggies’ and doesn’t respect that YOU DO.
I think she was trying to wind you up and it all got out of hand (unfortunately you contributed to this by exacerbating things with her via email, and everyone else calling her names when she was mad added fuel to the fire)
Angela was enjoying making you uncomfortable at the beginning which is a sure sign that she doesn’t really like you that much right now.
If you want to stay friends with her don’t bang on about Biggie. I wouldn’t bother being friends with her anyway (sorry Angela) if I was you because her lack of respect for what matters to you isn’t a good place to start a friendship.
Also, no-one really cares that you talked to her about JBB. Everyone talks about everyone else all the time EVERYWHERE. Sometimes its gossip, other times it’s just letting off steam. I know for a FACT with the JBB thing you would have just been letting off steam / talking it out to try and make sense of what was happening with a friend you were worried about. So you don’t need to keep trying to distance yourself from Angela and what she said.
So you really didn’t need to jump into that thread and get all stressed about what Angela was saying and worry about how it was affecting what people think of you. I'm sure everyone is cool with you Smiley!

Smiley- Don’t take Biggie so seriously. It is kinda hard when everyone knows each other off the boards. It was fun when people didn’t know each other and we all used to have silly fights. Although when people did meet up some people couldn’t forget what was said it kinda sucked. Some of us realised we didn’t like each other IRL after all, and vice versa. Personally I hope that noone on here I have met would ignore me because of something smart-arse I said on Biggie 5 years ago. I wouldn’t do that to them! So yeah things around here have changed, probably for the better, if most people here now are friends!

Smiley: Take Reaction’s advice and chill out

I can understand why Angela didn’t take too kindly to being coached on how to talk to people on the boards so as to make a good impression. I think some people would do the opposite of what you asked just to annoy you. Plus the whole ‘emailing about discussions on Biggie’ thing looks a bit extreme to people who don’t care about it, so that probably made her more angry.
Still, Angela should just have walked away. Its pretty obvious why she didn’t, she’s really mad at you, I don’t know why, and I seriously DOUBT its justified (seeing as I have known you for 15 years!- even if I haven’t seen you in ages I am sure you are the same person- you wouldn’t hurt a fly)
I think because you wouldn’t hurt a fly BUT take things REALLY seriously the best way to piss you off is to try and fuck with something you are mega serious about. Which is what Angela did. STOP talking to her via email. Tell her to leave you alone and ignore her. AND LEAVE HER ALONE TOO!

If Angela is trying to stick a wedge inbetween you and your Biggie mates by being nasty to them and then asking why you aren’t backing her up you should see that for what it is and IGNORE IT.


p.s whats your email addy?

Heheh, that's a very good point actually. I really hope there're no unsolved samurai swordings in the near future after my comments in here, d'oh! :/

That's AWESOME stargirl. Ps

alternatively the mates from biggie were trying to stick a wedge in between him and me.

more likely given kris b up there is the one who began hostilities.

Stargirl!

hurr

yeah you're busted.

You don't think there are reasons due to things you have done in the past that might make people decide they don't like the idea of you and smiley being friends again?

so you are all "protecting" him from horrible evil me by sticking a wedge between.

there you go Chris. lucky you, saved by biggie.

Actually, fuck it, I don't care, please strike my question from the record... I'm out.

Stargirl!!!!

chris@theothernews.co.nz (not sure I really care that slowly half of auckland will come here to see the fuss)

Look, I apologise for my part in the mishandling of this situation. I am human. Forgive me. If you don't... *shrug* It no longer matters to me anyway.

We got a regular Dr Sherlock fucking Poison Badger in the hizzay! Yuss!!

ps. Could someone PLEASE PS a coke badger spraying disease from its rear end and shooting poison lazers from its eyes for me? I'm not really certain what poison lazers look like (probably green but not sure after that; maybe little skulls and cross bones involved?) nor how sprayed disease looks (also green coloured I suspect but unsure after that).

Angela, one lesson i hope you have learnt(ed? bad england!) from all this drama is:

if someone says something snarky to you on the internet, do not respond. (this is, of course, if you are looking to avoid drama).

I should be jesus or something.

For purely my own interest - Is there anyone other than yourself that you trust Angela?

Smiley - apologising and then saying you dont care is kinda, well contradictory. +

yeah there is.

Several other personalities (each with their own disorders, I assume :> ) though they interact only by mail as they aren't aware of one another.

you realise you're a fuckin twat, right?

any normal guys reading this crap, do me a favour and punch this fucker. cheers.

I care if she forgives me...
I don't care if she doesn't cos it shows that I shouldn't care.
I've dealt with all the other stuff in the past.

I don't really know you from a bar of soap though I did meet you a few times and thought you were interesting to talk to - I remember saying something along those lines though I don't recall why.

You have some interesting defence mechanisms, you and America would get on well; or badly.

I agree with you! But after the war is finished who started it becomes arbitrary.

I learnt the hard way a couple of years ago that when you can't win its best to walk away. I was in a situation with an ex that I could have walked away from, instead I chose to go nuts and do what I wanted even though it ended up making me more miserable.

I just broke up with someone in November, who was a total FUCKWIT/PSYCHOPATH and treated me like shit for 2 years. I really wanted him to know what a dick he is but through age and experience I know I would be wasting my time trying to make him understand. One thing I would NOT do is call him out in front of his mates - they would automatically side with him regardless of whether he was right or not and I would end up losing my rag at all of them. Then when I had finished abusing them all and walked away feeling all righteous and justified I know they would all talk about what a crazy bitch I was and all try and make him feel better. Which is an even WORSE outcome.Plus being friends with him automatically makes them losers. So not worth it Plus I am too happy being away from him to want to think about his personality problems!
I'm not calling anyone here a loser or saying Smiley is a fuckwit- just giving an example of choosing your battles.

Hi Krissy ! I miss being your friend.

Hi Jono!

BTW if anyone wants to know why I am here I read something about Incline Events going under and came here yesterday to see if anyone was talking about it. Then saw all this stuff and was laughing so much I missed most of Project Runway.

Smiley - hah you cant care over half an outcome. I think youll have a hard time keeping both sides apart now so youre going to be running around trying to keep people happy, which ultimately you have little to no affect over. That said, anyone who asks you to choose sides is not a true friend.

Good luck and dont be a victim.

TtheHF - was that condescending? :p

Heheh, and so the big show of bravado and devil-may-care is reduced again to what it really is; flaccid insults from a silly little wanker who is used to getting what she wants. Doesn't work in the real world, nor does it on biggie, and every now and then you'll meet someone who takes exception to your shit.

Try to take away a lesson from this though: being a hateful cunt can result in your being shot right the fuck down. Hopefully we'll never see you again, bye now!!

yep, with you.

yeah i unfortunately tend to stand and fight, even if i'm outnumbered.

Dude, read the more recent one! Very much so, and I'm doing it precisely coz it IS so fucking horrible and I do dislike this person THAT fucking much :>

Gah, Smiley, I was trying to do a big sign off! Anyways...

SHE SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU AGAIN! SHE IS A FUCKING CUNT! RECOGNIZE THIS PLEASE!!

I'm out now tho, have a good weekend all!*

*edit: With one obvious exception, that is...

TtheHF, in fairness to Angela. you basically called her a psycho. I don't know if you are a guy or girl but most girls don't like being called crazy! So if she bites back are you suprised? Or did you expect her to agree with your nasty assertion that she has a mental illness even though you don't know her? I think you are expecting a lot of anyone not to react to that.

And stop using the C word, its disgusting.

it's a guy, though as you can see he bitch slaps like a girl.

and he seems to have made it some kind of personal crusade to get me eradicated.

No.

yes you are.

Same! you don't need to though.

I've done it so many times... I love a good argument and telling people whats what! But when its becomes personal everything changes. I realised that I kept getting into situations where I had to fight more and more often, and finally figured out that it was never going to stop happening until I did something different to break the cycle. So now sometimes I walk away. Maybe 1/2 the time but I am getting better. Its not weak to let things go, its liberating. I am still a work in progress though (and will always be) so not trying to sound all guru-like, haha!

You're still my friend! It's just been a long time between drinks. You got my details!

i do walk away from continually bad situations, this was a newly bad one though.

fresh injustice riles me.

i'm aware that i do need to learn to recognise when there's no point much sooner than i do.

FWIW, I (and several others) were slightly concerned about him trying to be friends with you again, given past history, but ultimately, it's his business and up to him.

The reason I had a go at you, is because you're a smarmy annoying bitch. Don't think you can try to ascribe my intentions, because you can't.

you're smarmy too. what makes you think it's ok for you to be an asshole, and for other people not. this is where you go wrong.

Where have I said it's not OK for other people to be arseholes? Nowhere? Right. Good, glad we cleared that up.

Being an arsehole online means sometimes people will call you on it. I hardly ever do it seems. Here there are a bunch of people calling you on it though, that says something.

no, what happened here was a mob beating.

all it says is people clump together in groups so they can feel safe in the support of the majority. when an attack is happening this can lead to a mob beating.

my defence mechanism is to attack. it was self-defence, so my defence mechanism kicked in and i attacked. what you expect when people take everything you say and explode it into drama situations.

but i wasn't being an arsehole when you "called me on it".

you were picking a fight.

Alright, time for a beer then is it?

Yes you were. I'd hardly call it picking a fight either. I simply made an inflammatory statement.

Actually, yes :>

I see you've also had chlamydia