FUCK!

Can't believe there has been a good old fashioned shit-slinging session on biggie recently and I fucking missed it. Fuckers! That's what I've been saying we're all missing! Sounds like this Angela character has been doing some PROPPA faget winding innit. Apparently old skool? I don't remember. And for someone talking up their own hotness too? I'm pretty sure I've been fully aware of all the hot biggies over the years. Pretty sure that total still sits in single digits too.

I can't decide if I'm one of the team now and would partake in the backlash, or if I would enjoy the onslaught of unfounded personal attacks.



gc.

You can be both SMF

biggie is interesting again, but its a bad bad thing y0. Feelings have been injured

PFFFFFFFFT people get over that shit. Well most people do. Some people you can get to a bit more easily so they hang onto their online grudges. Heh.

Grain of salt IMO. It's just great to have drama again! If me vs Apex was the worst things got around here it would be pretty boring. That shit gets too one sided you know.



gc.

Im actually a bit confused as to what is going on. i thought being a cunt on the internet was passe?

I wasn't aware we'd met you handsome devil you....

kinda funny how it racked up 2566 views in two days

kinda good for business I'd say

When did you change your tagline Maestro? You cheeky cunt!

The thread is the most laughs ive had on biggie for a while. One slightly jaded comment and a backlash ensues, tears shed.

its a fucking forum, get over it, imo. this place needed livening up!

Did anyone remind them it's just the internet??

Never before has that comment sounded so retarded.

News flash: real people behind keyboards! They know each other!

My comment was retarded? People always say things on the internet that they wouldn't say to someone's face.

Either way - why give a shit what someone you dont care about thinks/says/might have said about you.

Unless you like dramas...

The comment isn't retarded if you think about it in context, maybe people who misjudge what should be real life stuff, and whats just the internet need to realise that its just the internet.. (not you chris) Yup its real people behind real keyboards and some times blurs across real life but for most people most of the time they dont take it seriously, they are just interneting it and theres plenty of internet to go around.

A good rule of thumb is if you can turn the computer off, walk away and real life is exactly the same then it was probably just the internet.

Yeah, busting out sucide claims about people who aren't around: quality humour, good clean entertainment, just the internet. No big deal really eh?! Fucking clowns some of you.

that part should have been modded, much of the rest, especially how it started, was humorously bitchy/precious.

yes and why wasn't it?

Im not sure but i know there have been some issues with non admin mods not being able to edit. Or maybe none of the mods saw it.

You can contact a mod directly if you need to... im not sure if/how the report function works but most people here know how to contact a mod should the need arise.

I've just been told a fair bit was modded so maybe what I didn't see was ott.

TtheHF was able to unlock and post in his thread a few hours ago (he removed the post then locked it back up after bob posted in it).

wonder why he never saw fit to edit the terrible bits then =)

"report this post" functionality me thinks... pipe dream I know.

Might have been easier with off-the-shelf software than coding functionality from scratch on a site that couldn't fix a login bug for 5 years.

Don't think I wont start on you SMF, since you ASSAULTED me and worse, almost made me spill precious beer. NOT COOL MAN.

Stealth assault on prey at his watering hole.

:>

gc.

They call him... The crocodile who walk like a man.

you must have been seeing things

Might be the infinte amounts of BATSHIT INSANITY messing with your vision.

Said it once and I'll say it again... the reason biggie SUCKS these days is cos everyone knows each other...

There used to be mad fights between people/groups of people, sides would be taken, but as time has gone on pretty much everyone has met up, had a beer and realized everyone is pretty sweet IRL, and all of a sudden the trolling isn't taken seriously, everyone gets on, there is less arguments, the drama dies... and hence biggie becomes boring.

But NOW it has struck a new low:

Someone new comes here and starts an argument/insults one biggie regular, and instead of letting it be an argument between 2 people... (we all know Kris B is more that capable of taking care of himself and pwning the fuck outta someone)... all of a sudden mob mentality rules and like a fuckin hundred biggies are like "OMG SHE CALLED KRIS B FAT!!!! MUST DEFEND HIM" and all attack her...

Now this new bright spark/catalyst for drama I assume has been banned, or will never come back... and once again biggie is back to the dullness.

drama should be encouraged.

I'm embarrassed for all of you.



:>

She wasn't new.

Twincam is a homo.

What I don't understand is why you dicks who get off on drama don't just watch a soap operas. I guess it involving real people excites your base appetites more. Bit perverse really.

If the lowest common denominator stuff like that is what makes biggie for you, I'm actually pleased you feel upset to have missed it. I'm pleased it is happening less. With decent moderation I'd expect a majority of it wouldn't have occurred in the first place.

FUCK OFF TWINCAM!!

While angela might have stirred things up, it wasn't in a good way, hense the mob-mentality. Spitting out the same lame insults does not a sustained interest make. Er if you get my meaning. Had she gotten a bit creative then maybe it would've been good banter. But tbh it got boring pretty quickly and imho banstick was justified.

heh blame the moderators eh. You lot need to learn to look after yourselves. If you dont like what someone says, dont (re) open it, dont defend people who a) should be able to look after themselves b) cant help themselves but take bait c) probably overreacted in the first place.

Further - mods get bitched at for whatever is done or not done and often by people who do/support exactly the same thing they're complaining about others doing. So rather than bitching about lack of moderation (smiley).

TtheHF - have you ever looked at a picture/video/story on the internet that is funny but was probably painful for the person involved? No? Congrats you are probably equivalent to the Dalai Lama. If yes then maybe get off the high and mighty act.

There were certain things in the thread which were suitable for being modded but they seem to be the minority. The rest is about getting pissed off that someone you dont know/like having a go at someone you do who probably doesnt know anything about it (until someone goes and tells them)...

I think this is a good time for us all to sit back and take a good hard look at ourselves for once, and reflect upon our own mistakes and misgivings.. instead of projecting our insecurities and regrets onto others. You feel me brothers?

This is the point - why the mob mentality? The reactions could have been - ignore, which meant she didnt have an audience and didnt affect anyone. Or take the piss out of her and not take her or her comments seriously. Instead 'the mob' chose to attack and then like a bunch of school girls complain about it.

No one said, hey look Kris might have over reacted a bit to her first post and she went on the offensive rather than the defensive. Instead more and more people got dragged in and she got more audience and more victims.

Like they say, dont feed the trolls.

davil promise me you will keep posting when you leave our shores

For your little analogy to be valid, bob, the videos/pictures/stories mentioned would have to involve people we know and who we have some sort of interaction with. And that would be FUCKED. Think about it.



The line so often trotted out by people who act (whether directly or by their own inactivity) like wankers but can make a vague passing comparison. Tops.

LOL

I hear you mate, in fact I have become so jaded and insecure I'm taking a 8 month sabbatical to reflect on my life, actions and comments on biggie.

I'm ashamed of who I have become!

Really, its ok to laugh at people because you dont know them. So i guess you have no sympathy for Haiti then? If someone i know trips over and looses some face in front of people but is otherwise fine then i, and i think most other people will laugh. That is all that is happened here. Some people, through partially their own actions have lost some face by getting riles up by silly school yard taunts. I have no doubt some of them are offended but that is an over reaction imo.

Edit - added quote

Classic?

Oh dear...

Even when my friends hurt themselves I find it funny. I also mock my friends for their flaws. It's part of my charm!

I also give as good as I get though...

*shrug*

Don't be so sensitive IMO.



gc.

gummi - an obviously extreme example but perhaps i could have chosen better.

Heh, violent leap to a conclusion right there.

Sure I've seen ugly shit on the internet but I don't actively seek it out. It is the seeking of it that is the analogous part. If you intentionally hang around somewhere your friends/people you know regularly walk which is dangerous waiting for someone to get injured then that is similar.

You sure are serious business about this, T.
I know we all know each other and stuff (well, less so in my case having not lived in Auckland since 1996).... but I still think it's a little bit funny.

Also T, you role in this was basically throwing petrol on the fire so I do find you rattitude puzzling.

Not at all. Dangerous? its a public forum, no different to being in a bar and being shot down massively, or getting so drunk you trip over in front of someone you were trying to impress.

I dont know anyone who wouldn't laugh at some occasions when people they know or otherwise lose face through their own stupidity. Hell, i bailed off a segway in front of a couple of hundred people and could laugh at myself.

Serves you right for riding a segway (segue?) IMO.

Heal the world, make it a better place, for you and for me and the en-tire human race...

Promise! (fingers crossed behind back)

Serves me right for trying to show off while drunk. Blood nose and bruised pride but I can laugh at myself just as well as at other people.

Yeah, you're picking up what i'm putting down.

If you need any spiritual guidance let me know... i'm really good at that kinda shit.

Laugh it up man, other peoples fuck ups (so long as they dont seriously damage others) are a great source of funnies.
I got dry docked in front of my west coast hard buddies once, took it on the chin in the name of comedy.

Hey, I'm exactly the same with friends pwning themselves. Were either kris or angiebabiee (or however the fuck you spell it) to slip over or whatever I'd definitely be hard pressed to not laugh. But I don't want it to happen. I don't HOPE it happens. And if it did, I would be certain to provide assistance and ensure they were ok.

This is what I see the difference as being

So you have never wanted Zenith to self-pwn?

dry docked??

is this some sort of bogan term for "tea bagged" ??

Nah, when the wave your on sucks up too much and you end up getting slammed on a sand bar. (super low tide, and big sand banks)
Whats worse is they told me it was happening.

oh ouch, yeah has never happened to me but seen it happen.

You mean like reality TV?... well no one watches that.





You mean like deleting the thread you started... the one insulting Angela... the one basically rileing up the mob, by pointing out to anyone who may of missed the initial thread what was going on... and hence fueling the fire... (more throwing a gas tanker on it) encouraging people to join your quest to eradicate Angela?

is that what you mean?

you are Drama Tony

and I congratulate you...

anyway, I think it's pretty obvious that we're all in agreement... TtheHF should be banned.

:>

Heh, I've never really liked bob since I first encountered him tpl (and I'm certain the feeling is reciprocated) so that may be why my posting here sounds particularly serious. With regard to angela, though, I really don't like wankers and have no issue in letting them know whether in real life or online.



For me it was not at all a big deal; act like a cunt, get described as a cunt. A couple of others happened to agree. I actually said fuck all and stuck to my word of stfu'ing until she clearly broke the confidence of someone who trusted her and started talking proper, nasty, seriously hurtful shit about people who weren't there. That was when I got involved again but I wasn't angry and, in the circumstances, I don't think I was being overly sensitive.

Though I will defend my friends, and may be more sensitive to people's feelings than some of you in regard to online behaviour, I was more just calling a cunt a cunt (perhaps not as eloquent as the original saying but you get me :>. I think all of these are the right thing to do, so I do them

We have a Lynx can for this prupose :>

Who said anything about hoping people get hurt. Wishing for a good old fashioned flame war is not the same as hoping people get injured. There is a certain unsaid requirement that people who are happy to post their opinions on the internet should make sure they have the maturity to handle people being 'mean'. Thats not to say not caring enough to not be offended but to be able to respond (or not) in a way that is responsible for themselves.

God that sounds a bit wanky. What im trying to say is that you arent the internet police and you should treat your friends like they are responsible for their own actions and have a quiet word with them rather than jumping in publicly and (as someone else put it) fanning the flames.

Need to start teaching "how to internet" at primary school imo

As a moderator I have little patience for dealing with people who create dramas and maybe that comes across on biggie as not liking people. Maybe I only come across like a cunt, maybe I am a cunt but I have never thought enough about it to consider that i dont like you TtheHF. Not sure if by encountered you mean online or in person but im not much different in real life. On biggie i feel obligated to step in on occasions such as this. In real life, generally, I have neither the time nor inclination to step in unless im asked or it directly affects me.

Hehe, explained in other posts. I called a cunt a cunt but if you look again it was in a pretty light-hearted way, and only got serious on it when she went vicious on someone who wasn't there

As for hoping to see this kind of shit here, I really do think it's fucked and so said something about it. I guess there're plenty of things people do which are fucked though.

I think I might just start a list of these (which I will send to the editors of some newspapers and my local MP), and I'm beginning with yours, twincam *scowl*

awkward.








you going to Supper tonight perchance TtheHF?

You're not much of a bastard in real life at all. Although, the numerous times i have met you you have been quite "happy".

More your regular tone of condescension both on #biggie and here than anything. Just a personality trait that I sorely dislike, but that's my issue to deal with.

And I hear you on the inclination thing; for me not stepping in to support friends does directly affect me though, so I am compelled to

Yea, you're a GC IRL bob

Nah, helping Haz and Bird move is the plan and work tomorrow

No argument that I can come across condescending, usually when I think people are acting in a unintelligent way which is a trait I dislike If people are going to have a public opinion then be prepared for people to question it or point out its flaws. I dont take offence easily and sometimes treat people with a lack of sensitivity. Its a fault I am aware of.

Its been a number of years since I've been in #biggie, in fact I think I reached a year idle time some time ago. I'd hope I have mellowed out as I've got older. I certainly get in a lot less arguments.

bob is definitely a gc... he's patient and good at explaining things and doesn't get all emo :>

+1

Shucks guys

PS - call me insensitive but supporting my friends includes pointing out when maybe they did something wrong, though usually in private. Maybe its because I used to have a friend who picked fights all the time then came running to us for backup when someone (usually everyone) who was taller than him got offended. Id usually agree with the offended person that my friend was a cunt but a) he wasn't worth it and b) i couldn't stand back. My friend finally worked it out that he had to be responsible for his own actions though it did take a couple of smacks in the head.

Its a good thing I have thick skinned friends I guess.

Anyway - Mods/Admins are not going to spend their time running around fixing up peoples dramas, especially when they should know better. There are lines where we will act but they are seldom what people want from us. Also, when I see people acting stupid in a way that affects biggie I'll point it out - just be glad MikeM doesnt explain much he is so much less diplomatic than me.

na, the guy trashed my hotel room at new years. :foldyarmsman:

There have been at least a couple of very real repercussions irl so this line of thinking is inapplicable here I reckon

Wasn't me...

orly?

QFT.

Tthehf - for sure, but sometimes people on the Internet behave how they actually are, better to know someones true thoughts / behaviours earlier than later.

Still can hurt, sure but life hasn't changed you just have a perhaps more accurate understanding of certain people.

Actually I don't know specifics so I won't argue that line. PDA statement generally holds when dealing with people you don't know. If you know them well enough and they treat you in a certain way it's probably a reflection of themselves rather than something to take personally.

I'm not certain if this is an aside in relation to my discussion as the relevance is PRETTY stretched and it does read like a strange, tangential story. Running on the assumption that you are trying to shoe-horn it into being relevant, angela's crazy bintitude was all over the show and didn't seem warrented anywhere; she was carrying on like a crazy cunt who had recently been bounced from NZR and was looking for a new home to shit up, hence the thread. She, without reason, attacked someone who wasn't here, so the 'leaving friends to it to learn their lesson helps them grow' is completely irrelevant.

As for fixing dramas, no, you aren't. But I'm fairly certain at least one of you would have had a look at the thread and must have deemed it not of concern. Which I think is concerning. And tbh I like to think my preferring a nicer environment here without mindless, random personal attacks, which is about all angela seemed to do, is what Mike has always been about.

ps. Yes I do realize the irony in that I made some personal attacks due to her general conduct, but I like to think they weren't too mindless or random, and think they would have read as pretty light-hearted to someone prepared to vent the way she was <:

it wasn't an attack actually. i was talking to teddee,

Smiley on the other hand just told me about .. {stuff}. while i agreed with him (it is funny to see drama , so long as the person really is just being melodramatic i also found it a bit sad that he's such a fake, and do wonder what else he has said about other people, including myself, to people, then covered with a smile.

hence my reaction. it's quite likely Smiley has said god knows what about me (and you too btw, you being a generic you ie anyone reading this sentence) to other people.

So now you're trying to drop smiley in it? You are truly a special kind of sociopath.

this is how it is.

Jesus.... you broke my trust. And you put someone else on the line. I doubt she needs this posted on a public forum.

When I was at the height of emotional turmoil nearly 2 years ago, yes, I told some people what had gone down between you and me. They would have kept it to themselves and not said a word. Knowing that you and I were now friends, they would have re-evaluated everything. You had the opportunity to make some new friends who are cool.

Things change angela, we all go through phases, you of all people should understand that.

They be some CRAZY cunts on there yo!!

(I'm only posting because Tragic was crying about me never saying anything on here...)

Ok but her attacks were after she was attacked. Maybe I missed some of it. We have moderated her and she's been directly warned. But some other people contributed to the problem. She certainly played nasty bit people should have stopped responding a lot sooner than they did. Attacking people uninvolved was wrong, as was breaking private confidences but that is not a biggie issue.

you broke my trust fucker.

you also don't have my back at all.

i told you not to contact me, that includes addressing messages to me in a forum. seriously, fuck off.

Urgh, how can people enjoy watching this car crash?

ps I'd like you to edit out the suicide comments, not for my sake, everyone knows now that I told you that. But because it's NOT something to go on a pubic forum.

:/

Heh, I broke your trust... That seems to be all you do with me. I will address messages to who I like.