Free remix Downloads

It's not that I don't mind paying for all my music but are there any sites for free downloads of latest songs remixed/bootleg??

If you dont mind paying for all your music then why are you looking for free downloads (which you can say with 99.9% certainty that somebody is getting ripped off by)?

Whats the deal with royalties of bootlegs?
Their name implies someone is getting ripped.
Can/should a producer get paid for dodgy knock off
tunes?
Say I go into a shop and buy "Dj Superchees vs Tony Basil" and I pay twenty bucks, who apart from the shop gets paid for this?
(..and I know I got ripped off for paying twenty bucks btw!)

There are no royalties paid on bootlegs. Bootlegs are unlicensed remixes, so whoever the OG artist is gets ripped off. Anything you can legitimately buy is (in theory) a licensed remix and due royalties will be paid to the OG.

I imagine with the proliferation of sites offering mp3s for sale however, that a lot slips through the cracks.

In answer to your question about who get paid what though, the record label takes the lions share and would pay out the royalties to the relevant parties (usually also a record label, who owns the rights to the original track in question). Followed by distributors. Followed by the remix artist. For example, Fabric distributes some stuff in Australia through Inertia who would take a percentage of 15%-30% (depends on who the distributor is)

Same goes for online sales. Beatport arent accepting any more record labels, so you can only get your tunes on there going through an online distributor who already has the relationship in place. Their cut can be up to 30%. Once you take out the labels cut as well, the artists get fuck all.

your %'s are a tad high... artists can earna shitload from sales

of course they have to be slightly clever about their business relationships, which ain't a traditional strong point with artists

Ive just gone through this. Yes, 30% is on the high side and I was advised to negotiate with distributors asking that much, but I was informed if we could get 20%, thats a good deal (as a label)

A from a label, 20% is a high percentage for artists to make off their sales. 30% unheard of. In the majors, most get around 0.5-2%. With the proliferation of independents, this is (thankfully) starting to change, but its a trade off. Do you take 2% of millions in sales from a major, or 20% of thousands with an indie?

http://hypem.com/

FWIW you can check out lots of new music and mountains of shitty remixes (with the occasional nugget of goodness) on hype machine.

I'm pretty sure there should be a way to get it to only bring up links to tracks/blogs I'm interested in but haven't gotten it to do that yet.

seen this bn1? http://hate-m.blogspot.com/


chaos_theory, you have your own label? Aussie is fill of sharks, be careful...

Actually in some instances, the artist actually promotes a new album on the net by giving a free download for limited period of time. That's 'kinda' what I meant, as well as bootlegs..

When doing remixes etc, I was under the impression that some people asked permission from the original artist 'to remix', is given the original layers of music and does their thing and sometimes there are also free downloads.

I do pay for all my music. This isn't for me. and yes I'm assisting someone else in pirating... But thanks anywho.

trawl popular underground music interets forums, for download links.

How many points do you think the core of FFD are getting from their album ATM?

Re FFD - depends greatly depending on song writer credits... band splits for song writing and performance... mechanicals... distribution fees and returns... PPD... digital... live...

so many different elements to revenue streams a band and its members recieve and whilst not overly complicated can be quite complex

try doing royalty accounting for a band that has had multiple members over several releases and time frames which all have different % splits by release and by label that handled the release - actually don't, its no fun at all

Do you mean for digital? It's changed heaps with the digital stores just being conduits to the buyer now with few significant variable costs on each release. Most digital shops retain roughly 50% of the sale price with the other 50% goes to the label/artist. Of this I've heard of artists getting way over 20% of the total (or 40% of the passed on revenue).. in the region of 80% (or 40% of the total revenue). Labels need them sometimes - so bad that they'll use certain artists as their step-up to get more dist or support from them.

Having said that, on Beatport there are many marquee labels which get more than 50% of the sale price (in return for the first months or ongoing exclusivity if the label/tracks/artists are worthy enough).

standard digital agreements is with stores are the region of 60-80% return to label/aggregator

it varies consdierably and this doesn't include with holding tax

blah blah blah

I was talking about a mixture of both. Looking at pure digital figures, you haven't factored digital distributors in anywhere Rob. Because of the proliferation of independent labels, a lot of the big online stores such as Beatport wont deal with a label directly unless they're kind of a big deal. These distributors, who represent a whole host of labels and therefore mean sizable business with one point of contact for the stores, take cuts as well...

Really?

(yep, I have a start up label that I am trying to get all this in place with at the moment)

if you want help with digital... (advice or more) pm me, its what I do

Yeah, I did. The bulk of significant labels on Beatport deal directly with Beatport still - as incumbents mainly. It's the newer ones they redirect to aggregators/dists. I guess the main thing is, there are plenty of artists who are getting closer to 40% of the sale price from digital sales nowdays - the power really is back with the artist in many ways if they play their cards right and are in-demand.

Back to the bootleg I don't think the original artists sees any income from it??

Good label High %
Shit Label 0.5 to 2%

Maximus

Depends on your definition of "shit" and "good"

Traxsource takes at 60/40% split with the label.

= Brian Tappert is creaming it.

Serious? I thought they'd at least have to match Beatport - and many Beatport labels/artists do 50/50 which I'm guessing a top seller would be able to sort. In any case, it wouldn't be one deal for all would it?

Serious.

And if you sign in with traxsource you have to sell exclusively with them first (at higer promo pricing) before you can sell through other online vendors.

The only labels I've seen sell elsewhere (on their own sites) before they release on traxsource is Defected and King Street. Seeing they are two of the biggest players in that market they may also be exempt from the 60/40% split.

But yeah, Tappert has got the soulful labels by the balls. If you want a one-stop shop for soulful then it's traxsource and BT knows it.