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OK ok... engine blow-ups aside... Did anyone see the footage where Alonso is alleged to have held up Massa in qualifying?

HOLY SHIT!!!! F1 is now beyond a joke. The bias towards Ferrari is just silly.

Renault have shown that Massa's speed on that straight was actually his quickest of the quali session... so how did Alonso slow him down?.. Massa was so far behind Alonso you couldn't even see him until the last second of the footage.

Alonso's comments afterwards were bang-on. F1 isn't a sport anymore.

Rob W
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I haven't seen the footage, where did you see it?

I watched quali and didn't notice it (which says something in itself).

You tube?
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RobW this is why I made my comment in the lounge! Laughing Besides F1 would be nothing without Ferrari!
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styln said:
RobW this is why I made my comment in the lounge! Laughing Besides F1 would be nothing without Ferrari!


I doubt that. Their fans are pretty vocal but I think that F1 would survive fine without them. Monza and San Marino are much of the reason of Italy's link to motor-racing.

Once the playing field money-wise is truly levelled F1 will charge to new levels of popularity. Antics, such as the banning of Renault's mass-damper system (even after it had been deemed fine for over a year) after Ferrari's secret gripes about it, just turn soo many people off the sport who should really not be getting all that side-show info. It doesn't happen in other forms of motorsport to nearly the same extend and it definitely shows.

There are only two kinds of people who blindly thinks there isn't blatant favouritism towards Ferrari in almost all questionable rulings and they are Ferrari fans or people who don't actually watch it and only read the headlines in the newspaper.

Rob W
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I am a Ferrari fan and blatantv favouritism doesn't bother me as long as it helps us win! Razz
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im an f1 fan first and foremost but just dont buy into any of it. But each to their own eh rob Wink
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The head of F1, Bernie Eccleston has said publicly that Alsono should not have been punished... and worse yet, that Renault's mass-damper system shouldn't have been banned.

The wheels are falling off and Max Mosely is surely on his way out.

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/9/14/sports/15427793&sec=sports

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Ecclestone backs Renault

HAMBURG: Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone (pic) has come out in support of Renault and the team's boss Flavio Briatore over the controversial five-place penalty given to Fernando Alonso.

The world champion was placed back five places on the grid after race stewards found him guilty of hindering Ferrari's Felipe Massa during qualifying.

Ecclestone told yesterday's edition of Sport Bild that the decision to ban the 'mass damper' on the Renault had already been wrong.

“But the penalty for Alonso is a farce.”

Alonso managed to move into third place from tenth during Sunday's Italian Grand Prix but had to withdraw with engine problems, allowing Ferrari's Michael Schumacher, who won the race, to close the gap on the Spaniard to just two points with three races to go.

Ecclestone said he had watched the video, spoken to Renault officials and the FIA technical director Charlie Whiting. “I Just can't see any evidence that Alonso hindered Massa.”


Rob W
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To let you doubters see for yourself about Schumy's antics...
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17477.html

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SEPTEMBER 19, 2006

The truth will out?

Nine years after the World Championship showdown at Jerez in 1997, the then Sauber driver Norberto Fontana has decided to tell the story of what happened to him during that highly-charged weekend. In an interview with the Argentine magazine Ol?, Fontana claims that three or four hours before the race Jean Todt visited the Sauber motorhome and told the Swiss team, which used Ferrari engines at the time, that the Saubers must block Jacques Villeneuve if they were in a position to do so in order to help Michael Schumacher win the World Championship.

Fontana said that he blocked Villeneuve for only three or four corners but that it cost the French-Canadian around three seconds.

In the end Villeneuve challenged Schumacher for the lead and the two cars collided. Schumacher went off into a gravel trap and was unable to rejoin. Villeneuve won the World Championship and Michael Schumacher was later punished for deliberately driving Villeneuve off the track.


And the youtube video if you still doubt it: http://www.youtube.com/v/m8rv23q9sZM

Unbelievable!

Rob W