Felix Da House Cat vs. DJ Hell

Anybody else seen this beef? FDHC is all over twitter slinging shit at Hell for a new track called The DJ which uses a sample of P Diddy from a track that FDHC produced.

I can only see one side of the story because I dont think DJ Hell has a twitter but it sounds like Hell got clearance from Diddy but not Felix.

FDHC is going off tap though calling Hell a liar and saying shit like "I'm calling you out you liar" every few tweets, it's pretty LOL

I haven't listened to either track other than the radio slave remix but my impression was hell just used the spoken word sample of puff daddy talking?

It's all a fizzer. DJ Hell licensed the vocal track from P Diddy earlier this year. Sorry Felix... (Felix the P Cat?)

Yeah, that's what I had gathered as well. Felix is claiming is should have been cleared with him as he produced the track. But who has the rights over the vocal sample? Surely it's Diddy?

potentially neither of them own the rights to the track

yeah, its pretty funny watching felix come apart at the seems! he even made a kanye pic for hell..

seams. ugh.

I don't like FDHC's rants on twitter, but I do think thats pretty funny

It is on Hell's album so surely is properly licensed surely? I can't see why such a huge artist like Diddy would sign over any of his songwriting/performance rights to a one-off collaboration producer.

In any case, Felix giving Hell stick is almost ironic. Felix was one of the most highly regarded producers of the 90s in terms of being, well.. downright awesome. Then he decided to be cheesy pop-oriented artist and had made worse and worse records ever since.

fifteen to twenty minute versions of the muthafucking track!!!

If I was going to buy it, it would be all about the Sis mix....but I won't buy it because the whole "dude having a regular conversation with a beat in the background" has been done to death now.

Radio Slaves is 28 minutes

From FDHC's blog...

“He still had to get permission from me, because it was my recording session outtakes from Jack U. Not only that, he released Jack U without my consent or permission also and put my name and art on it..and I let that go nicely.” - Felix Da Housecat

http://boppernation.com/


Blog title pretty confirms confirms what RobW was saying earlier about cheesy pop-oriented

By "let it go nicely", you mean "got paid and oked it"?

Wonder how many artists FDHC has sampled without paying - hypocitical IMO.

what a fucking whining cunt. someone call the waaaaaambulance..

While anyone in the music industry would have known a few things about copyright law, and I am surprised at Felix's lack of thinking on this one, I do feel sorry for him.

Things like this do happen in the scene. Unfortunately, he should have tried contacting P Diddy about this since they are such great 'mates'... rather than bagging one of Felix's BIGGEST supporters and who helped get Felix back on the map (well, until he sold his soul).

These kind of things can sometimes be legit - look at Aril Brikha and the mega rip that Shlomi Aber did on his work, and then did again for the almighty Basic Channel.
While Aril did go public, it was because there was very little legally he could do, so that was his only defense for his IP... Basic Channel didn't, but their dark voodoo magic has meant that nobody in their realm will deal with Shlomi now, which is pretty harsh punishment for someone wanting techno recognition.

Anyhow. Man, how bored am I????

Let's discuss Psykofuk then shall we?

I wonder how much money Sean Deason got paid out by trance-cracker #1 Tiesto for that blatant theft in his Traffic tune.

It took a few years for the discogs entries to even add "Sample taken from the track Psykofuk by Sean Deanson." which is still a shameful lie since the whole tune is basically sampled.

I don't know how Tiesto thought he'd even ever get away with it other than he's a twat who lives in a bubble of his own awesomeness.

but_isnt_tiesto_a_god..?

I worship him... if that means anything at all

Poosibly not as my psychologist says I'm fucked up big time - don't you love how professionals can put complicated medical terms into lay terms if you ask nicely

I still don't get why Tiesto had to pay anything at all. Is it not possible that he simply came up with the same tune all on his own, only a few years after Deason?

I mean, it wasn't exactly the most complex of melodies so it is not ridiculous to think that two djs who've never heard each other's work could come up with that same tune at two different times.......

in all honesty, Traffic is a much nicer tune than Psycofuk

without knowing anythign about the case, it might be that one party had a better set of lawyers than the other and it was prob a out of court settlement

Sounds like the whole Cat Stevens vs. Flaming Lips thing.

'Oh we didn't know it sounded the same. We've never heard that song. We just made it up ourselves. Aren't we good.'

In this case it was a clear rip. Same notes, same progression, same basic arrangement.. seriously, it was a pretty obvious rip. The videos on youtube don't quite show quite how similar they were and Tiesto pretty quickly added sample credits to the releases.