Excuse me admins ...

Don't make me unleash my powers on you cunts OK!

Rather than locking a thread why not just move it to the TRASH forum ... Thats why we made it you idiots.

This last word thing is annoying. All private communication with that person has ceased. Not my doing mind you, her wishes. I'd be more than willing to try to resolve shit like an adult....

Christ dude, just walk away. No good will come from any continued contact.

yeah buddy, i'm leaving you to the mercy of this lot.

okay.

up till now i have been checking this from my phone which makes it difficult to do anything but make a short reply or lock will move to the trash in a sec but lets see how long it goes without an audience.

one last thing, Smiley there is going to be very broke soon. i hope you good friend types make sure to help him out/feed him/buy him coffees because he can't afford this shit right now.

/last friend act

with friends like these...

Indeed, rather backhanded. Hey world, this is smiley's personal affairs, come look.

Hahaha, this rabid animal really does need to be put down for the good of the entire planet, I reckon

Don't you worry, horrible little ham-beast, I'm quite sure Smiley's friends will help him if required, as they (we) aren't anything even remotely approaching the disgusting little creature you are

yeah ill shout Smiley a coffee, reckon hes shouted a few beers in his time too even stopping at particular shops to get bags of coffee........ god id love an ex to do that for me after we had broken up , what a nice bloke, so thanks for the heads up - ill be sure to get extra fruit and veges if it will help a mate out!

You did not need to bring that to everyone's attention.

why not? we all have broke patches, and it doesnt hurt for people to be aware nothign to be ashamed about!

'Zackly, Smiley, ppl here know what a good cunt you are so this little hidi-beast carrying on isn't going to colour people's perception negatively

actually it was dana alluding to stuff from the past... she knows an awful lot because she was there when I needed someone.

Mods can you please delete this thread. a line was crossed up there and i dont believe it should be allowed to stay in the public forum. also a call for "forumTROLL" to be banned. will email this to mike also, but would appreciate if this thread was deleted completely. cheers.

She'll just get a new nick like she's done with this one...

Hopefully people ignore her/the situation and she'll end up fizzing out like a 2 year old throwing a tanty who has been ignored.

hopefully.

hopefully

Just chiming in as a concerned citizen of the internet:

forumTROLL, aren't you like forty or something? Shouldn't you have grown out of this by now?

Also smiley, I will like totally buy you one of your silly girly mocha drinks or whatever it is that you like when I am home.

Edit: Oopz sorry QT. Heh.

No not 40 something, 30 something like me...

I really wish EVERYONE would stop chiming in personal details though.

Looking forward to seeing you ennajel

But you don't mind that my personal details, of years ago, are again online?

I guess some people move forwards and others stay static.

This is as childish as all get out.

Er, yes I do mind, did you read the threads properly?

Email on the way

I did read them, but they're convoluted and I have too much other stuff (work - try and make a qual read numbers??) going on to quite keep things straight on a message board. Sigh.

oh smiley - jellybabeee@gmail.com (3 e's on jellybabeee) if you do send it. Or you can facebook me.

yep, he just doesn't mind bringing MY personal details online, like he did after the kris b posts in that thread.

Ah since this is the trash forum I'll reply in context / tone.




Fuck you ReAction you stupid cocksucker, you aint got shit powers man. If you pull your head out of your own ass for long enough you might be able to grasp the idea that just because you don't know the reason why a lock is better in some circumstances doesn't mean there isn't a fucken reason.

If you really wanna know why, post your question in the mods forum, Oh no wait you can't read that forum.. thats probably because YOURE NOT A FUCKING MOD so you should just STFU and stop asking stupid questions about shit when you obviously don't have a fucken clue.

What the mods do is on a need to know basis... and you don't... cunt.. !!!

angela I didn't bring any personal details online, stop talking out of your arse... if possible.

look at the graph.

yes it's pretty. so fucking what?

you fuckin egg.

I don't have access to the posts, but lets see... you trade insults with kris, reaction trolls and you have fit at me. So I post a response.

Response goes something like: angela is my friend and I'm the (idiot) who made first contact, please keep anything about me and angela off the forums.

Yeah... REAL personal.

I'm out for a while...

hey, don't bother "Smiley", this isn't something you'll ever figure out.

stay an ass.

really wish i'd kept ignoring you. you're friggin hopeless.



yeah, that's what you said >.>

yeah, that made the forum go wild >.>

Smiley: you promised me an email with whatever in it. I haven't got it yet

Angela: I appreciate your semi apology, we will never be best friends but i do have to inadvertently thank you for putting me back in touch with teddee.

But all of us are in our 30s around about - why is this all put out on the net?

Just a question.

np, look i figured if you were feeling bad enough to post it on a public board, the people you had around weren't helping much. always thought teddee was quite nice, so let her know so if she still cared she could talk to you and help.

had to post it. couldn't pm her the info, this board is set up so badly.

Disclaimer: Graph was created for comedy purposes only and should in no way be used as evidence of anything at all. Synergised Outputs Enterprises take no responsibility for the accuracy of said graph, we recommend that the graph not be used for anything other than comedy purposes.

I suppose I appreciate that Angela but ummm

we're talking YEARS AGO?

take care, be well.

years?

ok, that wasn't how i heard it. still got the desired result (for you at least) apart from all the drama queens making it worse (for me).

you take care too.

I cant for a second imagine that either of you thinks the other is going to get 'it' - neither of you listen so that is an impossibility besides the fact neither of you are any good at explaining the issue and the outcome you want. So the assumption is you are either trying to hurt the other or save face in public.

Obviously (to the rest of us) neither of you is saving face. Smiley is coming across as a semi apologetic victim who doesnt listen but despite having a significant hand in his current situation is getting sympathy from people. Angela is coming across as a wannabe victim whos default reaction is to lash out at everyone and anyone who even looks like a threat... kind of a with or against mentality - its easy not to listen to people when you anger them so much they are nasty back. But why bother unless you have some serious self confidence issues? Most people with half a brain wouldnt even care enough what other people think to go through all this.

So we seem to have a victim who seems to like punishment and a victim who likes to lash out; misery likes company perhaps.

no i just don't step away from a bad situation soon enough. i just let things go on till they die a natural death. most of which i bring about with this next bit -

i'm no victim though. i'm just overly aggressive, and push bad things away from me with force, rather than stepping away peacefully.

it isn't that i care what these randoms think, i'm just more pissed off that they are thinking anything about me at all. thanks to Smiley bringing my shit onto the forum/talking to the bigglets.

go back to your tvs.

well the language you use used is victimish. " ive been attacked" (repeatedly) and more recently your post above where you say "apart from all the drama queens making it worse (for me)." The theme seems to be I'm only being nasty because they started it/ carried it on/ deserved it. Even though your posts have become more resigned/poor me you still have a twist in them.

And just your inability to stop posting - if you knew you should step away you would have long ago. Instead you keep watching this thread and posting in it. Every time smiley looks like he's disconnecting you have another go at him to keep him in. You seem to have either too much time and nothing better to do or you have something to prove - to someone at least.

As I said, you seem to want to save face and/or to hurt people. You indirectly deny the former and seem very adept at the latter.

you saying all the crap i took was justified?

you've got to be kidding.

heh and you seem to edit most of your posts to change them.

to respond to your change - why would you care that they are thinking of you (which IS caring what they think). And again laying blame and playing the victim. Its not smileys fault you decided to post (unless of course he actually forced you to?) nor his fault that what you posted attracted so much attention, nor that you cant just walk away.

So you feel a little bit stupid for trusting what someone said but that pales in comparison to how stupidly you have dealt with it. For someone who professes to not want to be thought about you have probably done everything possible to achieve the opposite.

incidentally it woud've been better if you hadn't made a post in this thread after the last one too.

I dont know how you got that from my post but that wasnt my intention.

Are you saying your reaction was justified?

better for who?

it IS his fault that he didn't tell the first flamer to just back off, seeing as it was personal shit and intended to be malicious.

a friend would've backed me from the start, told flamers to back off. doesn't matter he knew the guy as well, what mattered is the guy started flaming personal attacks, which should've been enough for a friend to say something.

and a friend would've calmed the fuck down and waited, not posted personal messages on a public forum to get my attention.

and yes i'm also aware that continuing this got attention, but once people en masse started getting so personal (once that flame/troll thread by TthHF was made, despite the situation in previous thread having ostensibly been resolved) you expect a person to just walk away and let people have a go?

well once someone makes a personal flame attack on you, it's fair game. i didn't attack anyone until they sent some dodgy post my way.

better for the situation.

Sure he could have handled it better but that doesnt absolve you of your part in it. Like him you seem to be fairly adept at admitting blame for your actions. You blame other people he hides behind his intention, which while noble and a partial defence still means you need to own the outcome.

If you are looking for proof he wasnt a friend (which seems to be a theme with you) then you have certainly engineers a situation that makes it difficult for him to jump the hurdles. Again, i think you are pissed at yourself more than him but its easier to punish others.

All that is an aside though. Im not sure that sticking around achieved anything to diminish people having a go. Instead you gave them more and more ammo through uncalled for comments and fairly uninspired insults. But no im not suggesting you should have done anything, but attacking like you did and then claiming to be a victim is hypocritical. You played nasty so no one is going to give you *any* sympathy unless they only hear your side of the story. It is plain to everyone else you are mostly responsible for the outcome past the original few posts.

My only suggestion is that you apologise for the wrongs you did and let other people apologise (or not) for their parts. But making a conditional apology is none at all and you might be waiting a long time for others to apologise to you.

I suspect that you wont do a true meaningful apology but i hardly know you so I may be surprised. Either way it wont affect me but might give you a way out with some redemption and mean people dont think about you so much if thats what you want.

So just to be clear in what you are saying, there is nothing you have done on the boards recently that was uncalled for/ unjustified/*/ or not someone else's fault?

EDIT: *or out of proportion.

yes/no

Yeah perhaps that is true, but are you saying you have no ability to affect the situation or even that you have less potential to affect it than me?

but the situation doesn't concern you.

or anyone else who posted here.

which is the whole point.

only people posting should've been me, and kris b.

once he flamed, i should've been able to expect a friend to back me (Smiley being the only person i know here).

and kris b shouldn't have made that flame post at all.

Well i disagree but pretending you are correct then why not take it to email? Or alternatively if it was only you and kris why would you give a shit what he thinks and just not respond?

I disagree because just as you claim that once someone sends you a dodgy post you are justified in responding (though you seem to have lost the proportionality/appropriateness thing) this is a public board and people are allowed to post their opinions, with the proviso that within reason people are allowed to respond. Further I am an admin on these boards and along with others have had to clean up the mess you have had a part in. Including but not limited to making public things that uninvolved people didnt want/ dont deserve to have made public. That and we dont want the boards to turn into just a flame board.

again with the editing afterwards...

as for apologising, as far as i'm concerned anyone who got up in my face can go fuck themselves.

Why would a friend want to back you making an arse of yourself? Perhaps he knew what kind of reaction you were going to give. From what youve said I doubt your behaviour the other day was out of character. Perhaps he thought he had some ability to affect how you handled, maybe he tried to contact Kris, maybe he thought he he couldnt affect kris. Maybe he should apologise for his actions but it is unlikely while you refuse to see what things you should apologise for.

Maybe Smiley did the wrong thing, personally i would have considered everyone to be adult enough to have dealt with someone upsetting them on the internets in a responsible manner. Obviously im a hopeless optimist.

BTW 'shouldnt' can be such a victim word when used in the past. Someone either did something or they didnt.

Again though, all of this is as an aside. You are a self professed troll yet you have got all sensitive to what some guy said to you on a forum that you dont care about.

You are responsible for your own actions, well not so far, but until you are youre not going to get it and this story will repeat again and again.

Stop posting, forget about them and go live a happy life, that would be the best way to show how right you are.

"victim"

it's ok man, i feel safe. i won't be hanging around with any of these fuckwits.

I should point out that you had already insulted kris_b back with something that I found very nasty BEFORE I was aware of his post. This put me in a difficult position when it came to defending you.

I'm sorry that I did not know how to handle that situation. I DID consider several times telling you both to STFU but considering that you had warned me a day earlier on msn that if I did that sort of thing you would flame me I decided to keep out.

And jbb, please be patient, I have been busy with family stuff today and will be again soon. Just taking some time out to see how all this is going

that's what you should've done.

And risk you doing... well... what you are doing now except this has got worse than I ever thought it could.

There are lots of things you should have have/not done too. I was wiling to forgive you for your transgressions because that's what friends do. They forgive. But instead you escalate it and write me off for that??

Have you completely forgotten all the nice things I have ever done for you? And the big ups, and the nice words and encouragement and... - well all sorts of shit really. And yes I know you have been nice to me too. You have thrown it all away because I didn't back you up in a fucking internet forum once??

'being a/ or playing the victim' is a state of mind unrelated to an actual event - though having an event makes it easier to justify to yourself and others.



So basically you are saying that you need someone like smiley to both fight your own battles for you and try to control your actions because you have no control over them.

Smiley - what most people would have done/ suggested is to be completely uninvolved or at worst said stfu once and then realised its not your problem and walked away. I don't think that is in your nature but the sooner you learn it the better for you. In this situation you were never going to come out unscathed but like Angela you need to learn when to stfu and walk away, at least till things settle down a bit.

Yes I should have. This experience has hardened me somewhat and I've learnt some lessons.

I have to do the family thing for a while again...

no, i am saying that Smiley showing some support would've calmed the situation given that bigglets, as we all know, have a tendency to perform mob beatings as soon as they believe someone is alone and unsupported.

ffs i backed him straight away in his mocha thread when everyone started taking the piss.

Sure biggies/nzrave/any group perform mob beatings when they find something offensive - for most people it wasnt sport it was a reaction to your comments. If you had responded to krises fuck up post by saying - something along the lines of - "that was uncalled for" and left it at that then you could have played the victim and I suspect some people would have come to your support.

Instead you attacked everyone, betrayed confidences and crossed several lines which im sure you will agree is a good way to piss everyone off and ensure a mob beating. Now you are complaining about it like it was something unexpected. So I can only assume you are naive/stupid or you like playing the victim.

Now you still havent responded to this post so I can assume that you know you crossed several lines.

what happened after that initial flame session is just tough shit.

lines were crossed by all sides.

what concerns me is what happened to cause it.

incidentally i spoke to the one person who needed to hear an explaination of what went on with regards to her personally.

which was made into something it wasn't by all the drama queens, who blew it up rather than taking it as information addressed to the person who asked a question.

You are so fucking manipulative it's kind of amusing.

that you assume this explains a lot of your behaviour towards me here.

No worries. Look forward to it.

However it should be fairly simple to sort out with me.

Angela is clever and funny etc, and I thought that a million years ago. I also thought that after some biggie battles back in the day we were all finally on the same page after meeting up.

This is a bit out of the blue, I hope that you work it out.

I would still like that email Smiley.

I suspect hes only just worked it out.

you really haven't given me much option but to think that.

Do you ever (properly) apologise for anything or is it always someone else's fault? Your ability to focus on the very narrow, ie the tiny bit where you were wronged, it truly female.

me??!

Of course not.

why is that.

this is what happened:

i post jaded comment.

kris b gets snarky.

i justify my jaded comment with an explaination.

kris b flames with a personal attack.

i flame back with a personal attack.

kris b gets loads of backup, my back is to the wall.

Smiley comes in with panic comments about his personal situation at that very moment with me.

people laugh.

things get worse.

stuff gets talked about between kris b and me, nobody seems to understand other side but w/e.

thread eventually gets resolved ish.

~~~~~

some bitch asshole called TtheHF makes a dedicated flame thread to me after he gets disappointed other thread is no longer focusing on me.

a few comments get passed back and forth.

the teddee incident occurs.

massive freak out! at last something to hang that bitch with!

drama drama drama.

several more threads are made focusing on what a terrible person i am. everybody tells Smiley how saintly he is.

TtheHF keeps pursuing his hatred of me, i think he has issues.

more talking.

the teddee incident is explained finally to the person concerned (after a certain mod kept deleting my post explaining it).

Smiley accuses me of being the manipulative one.

the irony of this is yet to unfold i'm sure. don't think he'll ever notice though.

Again with the everyone's at fault but poor me. Smiley has already apologised and good luck waiting for an apology from everyone else I think its fair to say you truly burnt your bridges with them.

And to be fair a number of people did tell Smiley what a dick he was being and people criticised TtheHF's part in it; they just did it in a more appropriate way than your scorched earth approach.

i think we've gone well beyond that.

i wouldn't stand in a room with these idiots.

Hey Angela,

Ms Teddee and I have had a couple of nice emails. So thanks for facilitating that even if it was not in such a lovely way.

I in the past have fucked up bigtime on the internets.

Maybe just shush-ing is the best option here. You are a smart and talented lady (I have seen the couch you designed for smiley for example).

Take your talent and run with it, don't waste your time here.

x

your lack of comprehension does not make what i actually said into what you think i said.

thanks. i know i shouldn't bother with this lot. it's just that someone is wrong on the internet.

You must surely agree that posting that personal information was a mistake, not just because of the issues concerned, but because you didn't really have anything more than offhand knowledge of that information or whether it was relevant to the question.

Next time you are so concerned for another member that you think you should inform others about what you think you know, its probably best to check you actually know what you are talking about and use email... and maybe not make degrotary comments belitting the situation publically following the issue you were concerned about.

Haha.

Put it this way. I have ruined a number of friendships by being way too emo. But I don't think I was ever cruel.

You bringing up what you did - that was bitchy.

I like your wittiness and since the days of you / teddee / me having an online crack at each other - well that was funny.

All I am saying. Take care.

i had no other way of getting a message to that person. yes i'm aware it might have been a shocker, but it was intended to make her contact a person i thought (at the time) was in need of assistance.

So what are you waiting for? What exactly are you expecting to happen - kris b being struck down? Smiley apologising again? People you dont like to stop thinking about you (theyre probably all out having a beer like i should be)

Its been explained to you in a number of different ways and the things you are complaining about in others are some of the things you are doing.

Good luck with what ever it is you are after.

Sorry PD, I posted before you did.

Ask them for their email.

FFS this was a LONG TIME AGO!

Please angela justify the other comments, not that one!

didn't occur to me.

ha, c'est la vie.

Heh... Not sure why that would be an issue but its fine by me.

what other comments?

where i said to all the omgwtfbbq drama queens to stop freaking on me and don't pull me up on it anyway, drama suicides are usually thought to be funny, so why the sudden hypocrisy?

that had nothing to do with you or teddee, that was directed solely at the ravening horde approaching with their little flamey torches. they only freaked out because it was me who posted it.

at the time i thought it was relevant. i really did think it was a current situation and could be helped by a friend getting in contact. like i said, i just didn't think to grab teddee's email first. just bluntly posted away like i normally do.

ok ... so all good?

oh ffs why would a person post so negatively if they were not going through a hard time?

but dark times pass.

I'm sorry, how is this not manipulative? You know it was wrong now, and you knew it was wrong then.

"Oh poor me I was just trying to get an important message across because I was concerned and they all beat me down!"

Smiley, i'm not interested in talking to you at all.

the things a friend should've done, weren't done by you.

where it counts, you = crap friend.

you're good at the superficial things, the things people agree are what's "important".

that isn't how i define people though.

LOL!
That's some of your best work there angela, you are a funneeee girl.