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and herein lies true irony of the property developers' wrecking balls rampant in this town these past decades
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Auckland Council building control manager Bob de Leur said that unlike Christchurch, much of Auckland's CBD consisted of reinforced concrete structures that were built since the 1970s, when stricter building codes were introduced.
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Brownlee has shown he must be sacked - he'd flatten the buildings the next day if he could.
Fat, arrogant, ignorant fucker who doesn't understand that some things are more important than life.
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What on earth is this thing with he cathedral where they thought there was 2 bodies buried under the rubble from people in the watchtower etc .....and now they have cleared it all and declared there are none?

Thats just weird...where are these 22 people they assumed were up there then? Would nt they have basing the 22 figure on eye witness/cathedral staff accounts?
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2 = 22....dont know why edit fucntion only works for me some of the time
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The Maestro said:
Would nt they have basing the 22 figure on eye witness/cathedral staff accounts?


Yes. Eyewitness accounts at the time of a disaster like that are pretty unreliable however.
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last I heard the cops were tracing that back to the source
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For sure kris...but wpuldnt they have gathered more eye witness accounts than just one? Wouldnt they then have matched that information with missing persons known to have been going to the Cathedral? Where are those people? Isnt it strange that there really is NO ONE under that massive pile of lethal rubble in an area normally highly populated with people?

somethings weird...I guess its just original reporting, but its bizzare how inaccurate that reporting was
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tourists going to the cathedral would not necessarily be signalling their intentions and would be the most likely to be going up the spire for a look

it would seem that randomness had a a large part to play in this fortuitous outcome

The Maestro said:
somethings weird...I guess its just original reporting, but its bizzare how inaccurate that reporting was


and nothing weird or bizarre in this as it was all in extremis first hours stuff of a major catastrophe unlike now when the dust has settled
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No. It was reported in yeterdays herald that rescuers were picking carefully through the rubble to find the bodies of the 22, then by lunchtime it was reported on their website that no bodies had/would be found.

22...the number that been reported for so long. if they had NFI idea is people were really dead in the rubble, why report such a specific number for so long
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they reported only what auhorities had been informed

at the start there was only one person killed: the story leaked subsequently that upwards of 22 were missing

the police were reported yetserday as being keen to trace the source of the story, no doubt to eliminate any malicious intent for timeasting of rescuers' efforts
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well I cant imagine why or how there would be "malicious intent" Confused ......but yeah, Im not a Herald Basher at all ...what i actually mean is how the information/assumption of many crushed at the site came about. The misplacement of resources is a huge error
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The upheaval wrought by the 22 February earthquake in Christchurch, NZ, is illustrated in new radar imagery.

The Magnitude 6.3 tremor killed more than 160 people and shattered a city already reeling from a previous seismic event in September.

Data from the Japanese Alos spacecraft has been used to map the way the ground deformed during the most recent quake.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12668190
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What scientists need to know now is the nature of any "seismic gap" between the two; that is, a segment of fault which was not broken in either tremor but which may have been loaded with additional strain because of both those events


could Ken Ring be right?
Razz
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7.2 in Japan and Tsunami alert given!!!
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interesting seeing this doco from 15 years ago talking about liquefaction after 'the big one' in Chch
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irony at 4:20 - that building came down

see Herald's before and after gallery

and beware all ye who gather here, the resonant frequency
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Just the corner though right? The buildings that had no reinforcement may have been worse than the rest of that building?
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the one he mentions is being strengthened, I cannot say abut the one he mentions is not
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maybe they forgot the corner
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Ah I confused the two - that one at 4:17 may have survived
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top left hand corner of that building contains the office of an acquaintence of mine

gets a real good view now
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micarl said:
interesting seeing this doco from 15 years ago talking about liquefaction after 'the big one' in Chch


Interesting seeing some of the hysterical reactions to this getting posted.

Good post on it: http://laytonduncan.com/post/3740157837/so-now-what

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This video excerpt from a 1996 Inside New Zealand special on earthquakes has been doing the rounds on Twitter today. While interesting viewing to those who haven’t seen it, I think a couple of things should be kept in mind.
First, I think people should be very careful not to make assumptions and draw conclusions about what happen in the September 4th and subsequent catastrophic February 22nd earthquakes, before any sort of factual information has been gathered on the cause of the destruction around the city, especially with regards to the CTV and Pine Gould Corporation buildings.

Second, no one should be particularly surprised at the information revealed. I vividly remember seeing this when it screened in 1996. I remember the focus on the high susceptibility to liquefaction particularly in the east of the city. I remember the claim of an earthquake potential of magnitude 8 on the Alpine Fault. The risks have long been known, and still exist today. The conclusion some are coming to from watching this is, given these risks were known, things should have been done totally differently. Hindsight is indeed 20/20.

The reality is there were processes in place to mitigate these risks. Strengthening work saved many buildings and lives in the city. New construction and infrastructure work was being done to a standard which would stand up to these reasonable known risks.

So now what? We still face the same risks we did in 1996 with regards to large earthquakes on faults relatively close to the city. What do we do differently? Do we go out and rip down every building which doesn’t meet 100% code within two years? Too slow? Ok, lets reduce that to a year. Now what if the Alpine Fault went tomorrow? People would be up in arms because things still moved too slowly. What if the city was retrofitted in a year, and the Alpine Fault didn’t go for another 200 years? People would see the haste of the massive cost outlay as unnecessary and pressured.

Risk is inherently hard to quantify. I sure as hell didn’t expect to be woken at 4:35 AM on the 4th of September to a massive earthquake, nor see the things I saw on the 22nd of February. You can only do your best with the information you have at the time, and work within the practicalities you face.
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refer to CHCH council (or ECAn or some such mob) and the rezoning of areas known to be risks - been covered before post Sept earthquake
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to the rescue here they come

They've got the remedy

The remedy is the experience.

http://thedaktory.org.nz/events/stash/#more-1175
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Two big ones this avo.. 5.5 about an hour ago and now a 6 that was felt in Wgtn and Dunedin. :/