Bob Gruen said:
The New York scene was, well, more New York. England seemed louder and brighter. We didn't really consider "Punk" a fashion. In New York we were just dressing in t-shirts and blue jeans. One night Richard Hell apparently had a fight with a girl friend. I don't know if it was over drugs or whatever. There were a lot of rumors as to what the reason was, but one way or another somebody cut up all his clothes. He had to go out, so he took a bunch of safety pins and just pinned them together where they were ripped and went out, because he didn't give a shit. Well, Malcolm saw that and he was fascinated by the "unique design." This wasn't fashion, it was more like how do you get out of the house when you've got no clothes left?
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