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Always liked cooking and had a pretty epic meal with some people who I was teaching to cook a meal tonight ...

First

Wrote a recipe for vege lasagna on a whiteboard, croke them into 4 teams and got them to

1. Prepare eggplant/capiscum in oven
2. Make a white sauce
3. Make a tomatoe sauce
4. Layer mixture and cook

Then I prepared the meal I auditoned for Masterchef 2010 with: Mussels in a cream and white wine sauce served with toasted ciabatta

Then we finished off with some tiramisu I'd made at home that day.

Then we watched Masterchef. Love Brandon, hope he gets through. He's probably the favourite next to Ana I guess.

So:


What's your favourite meal to cook/eat?
Thoughts on Masterchef?
What was for dinner tonight?

Chur
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Oh yeah, and totally psyched abut going to Merideths on the 16th of June for the 8 course degustation with wine. Anyone been there?
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Using this thread as an opportunity to have a bitch about Masterchef generally:

UK Masterchef features some guy no one's ever fucking heard of who has never been a chef in his life (fruit seller at Covent Garden being the most legit credential) who basically just parrots the French guy who actually knows what he's talking about. He also opened a restaurant in London which sells overpriced shitty British retro food and received unanimously terrible reviews.

NZ Masterchef had a contestant who didn't know where Spain was when asked to cook a Spanish dish and someone else who chose spaghetti bolognese as one of their dishes. The overall standard was jaw droppingly embarrassing when you consider the calibre of contestants on the Australian version or even the UK version. I did enjoy that the judges made one of the vegetarian contestant eat lamb's brains in order to get into the initial round of the competition, where else in the world would someone get away with that?!
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I've never watched an episode (have only seen the ads), but that Junior Masterchef program freaks me the fuck out! What the fuck is wrong with those little brats? :/
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I quite enjoy Masterchef: The Professionals, they're all professional chefs already and it's INTENSE.
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ennajel21 said:
NZ Masterchef had a contestant who didn't know where Spain was when asked to cook a Spanish dish and someone else who chose spaghetti bolognese as one of their dishes. The overall standard was jaw droppingly embarrassing when you consider the calibre of contestants on the Australian version or even the UK version!


The overall prodiction standard of most NZ shows are jaw droppingly embarrassing.
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Well, yes.
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We pretty much wrote the book on half arsed.

Just waiting for: Who Wants To Be a Tenth Of a MiIllionaire?
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Never watched it but heard the Junior Master Chefs were pretty good.

The final contestants on Masterchef all seem pretty good ... I think it'll come down to Brandon and Ana ... they're both competent.
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Itchy said:




What's your favourite meal to cook/eat?
Thoughts on Masterchef?
What was for dinner tonight?

Chur
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I had 100g of biltong for dinner last night. Sodium levels are now dangerously high Very Happy
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masterchef is the worst kind of reality TV - its a badly scripted piece of shitty drama with food kinda involved

it and its ilk can fuck right off

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This season's masterchef has some pretty good cooks on it. I am impressed, given that they are only amateurs. I think Tony will win, he seems to be a little bit more "chef" than "good cook".

ps. His name is Brenton. I think he should open a bistro, I'd go there.

I HATE the junior masterchef, little precocious cocks. who the fuck cooks like that when they are 10?
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Wonder what happened to Nadia from the last one? I met her when we auditioned .... think she ws a nuritionist at Greenlane Hosiptal
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she is probably still a nuritionist at Greenlane Hosiptal



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She has a section in the healthy food guide magazine.
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bob daktari said:
masterchef is the worst kind of reality TV - its a badly scripted piece of shitty drama with food kinda involved

it and its ilk can fuck right off


YEAH!! WHAT BOB SAID!!
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bob daktari said:
she is probably still a nuritionist at Greenlane Hosiptal





Assumming she got a sabatical or unpaid leave or they re-hired her
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I heard the winner gets a book deal!?!
What sort of tard would buy this? Would it not make more sense to buy a book from an actual trained successful chef? Possibly for cheaper.
Masterchef...more knobs than a Morrissey concert.
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ennajel21 said:
I quite enjoy Masterchef: The Professionals, they're all professional chefs already and it's INTENSE.


Top Chef Masters is like this, all very successful chefs of some minor celebrity already. Think the kind of people they normally get in as judges on normal Top Chef.




I don't watch MasterChef, but I caught a few episodes of "Hottest Home Baker" - if I didn't know, I'd assume it was more a show along the lines of "People Who've Never Ever Baked Anything More Complex Than A Microwave Packet Cake Attempt To Bake For Real".
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Make this last Friday and it is THE FUCKING BOMB!!!!!!!!!

Beef Cheeks with Pedro Ximenez

From Richard Cornish and Frank Camorra ‘s Movida Rustica

1.5 kh beef cheeks
125 ml olive oil
3 carrots, roughly chopped
1 garlic bulb, halved
1 brown onion, sliced
500 ml Pedro Ximenez Sherry
500 ml red wine
3 bay leaves
3 tablespoons fresh thyme leaves
1 teaspoon salt
1 head cauliflower, broken into florets
185 ml cream
40 grams butter

1.Trim the beef cheeks to neaten them up and remove any new sinew and silver skin. Season well.

2.Heat half the olive oil in a large heavy-based saucepan over high heat. Brown the beef cheeks for 2 minutes on each side, or until golden, then remove from the pan.

3.Add the remaining olive oil, then add the carrot, garlic, onion and saute over high heat for 12 to 15 minutes, or until well browned. Stir in the sherry, wine, bay leaves, thyme, sea salt and 500 ml water. Reduce the heat as low as possible, add the beef cheeks, then cover and cook for 3 to 4 hours, or until the cheeks are beginning to fall apart.

4.Meanwhile, put the cauliflower, cream and butter in a saucepan, season to taste with salt, then cover and cook over low heat for 35 minutes, or until very tender. Place the cauliflower mixture in a blender and process until smooth. Keep the puree warm.

5.The sauce from the beef cheeks should by now be reduced and glaze like. It if needs further reducing, remove the cheeks from the pan, cover with foil to keep them warm, and simmer the sauce over high heat until nicely reduced. Strain the sauce through a fine sieve and return to the pan; gently reheat the cheeks in the sauce if necessary.

6.Serve the cheeks and their sauce on warm plates with the cauliflower puree.

Changes: Added celery into the vege mix, just coz...cooked in slow cooker on low for 8 hours, them cheekies were so tender if you coughed to loudly they fell apart!

Highly highly recommend making this! Beef cheeks are pretty cheap, too, though sometimes a little hard to find, pre order them babies.

DO NOT substitute for a different kind of sherry, Pedro Ximenez is a variety/type of sherry, not a brand, and it's sticky and sweet and delicious...if you used bog standard dry cooking sherry, it'll probably taste like beef balls

Smile
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Sounds great!
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kris_b said:
ennajel21 said:
I quite enjoy Masterchef: The Professionals, they're all professional chefs already and it's INTENSE.


Top Chef Masters is like this, all very successful chefs of some minor celebrity already. Think the kind of people they normally get in as judges on normal Top Chef.


Yeah Top Chef masters is good. Even the regular Top Chef > Masterchef. I never understood why Masterchef seems popular in nz . I guess it wouldn't be possible to make an interesting 'Top Chef' style show in nz.
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MasterChef is popular here because they make a local version here. Edit: also because between the NZ, UK, AU and Kids versions, it's aired pretty much constantly.

And speaking of Top Chef, even Top Chef: Just Desserts is miles ahead of any of MC and definitely Hottest Home Baker Laughing
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Even Top Chef Caaaaaaanaaada Eh > any MC
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Heh, you watchin it? Was wondering if was any good, bit stink with no food shows on atm except No Reservations which doesn't really count.
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I actually only watched the first 2 or 3 eps. I stopped because I didn't have time, not because it sucked or anything (although it's < Top Chef US for obvious reasons) Very Happy

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ennajel21 said:
Using this thread as an opportunity to have a bitch about Masterchef generally:

UK Masterchef features some guy no one's ever fucking heard of who has never been a chef in his life (fruit seller at Covent Garden being the most legit credential) who basically just parrots the French guy who actually knows what he's talking about. He also opened a restaurant in London which sells overpriced shitty British retro food and received unanimously terrible reviews.

NZ Masterchef had a contestant who didn't know where Spain was when asked to cook a Spanish dish and someone else who chose spaghetti bolognese as one of their dishes. The overall standard was jaw droppingly embarrassing when you consider the calibre of contestants on the Australian version or even the UK version. I did enjoy that the judges made one of the vegetarian contestant eat lamb's brains in order to get into the initial round of the competition, where else in the world would someone get away with that?!



Are you having another rant abut NZ versions of overseas shows? :>

Why are you still surprised? We're little, we don't have the population, budget etc. Of course it's going to be a shittier version of a bigger budgeted show? Laughing
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Why bother then? I mean, reality TV is (relatively) cheap as fuck to make... trust NZ to make it even cheaper and even shittier looking... :/
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dalai said:

Why are you still surprised? We're little, we don't have the population, budget etc. Of course it's going to be a shittier version of a bigger budgeted show? Laughing


Not always - NZ was the originator of the popstars/pop idol type show! I know you still have that True Bliss album somewhere in your collection Dalai Razz
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gummi_bear said:
Why bother then? I mean, reality TV is (relatively) cheap as fuck to make... trust NZ to make it even cheaper and even shittier looking... :/



Believe me, I would be pleased as punch to never see a local version of a shitty reality show. Or even better, for the reality show to never exist at all but they're always going to make a local version because it's more relatable to their target audience. Why else do we see so many versions of shows like Masterchef et al if not for the same reason?
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Bn1 said:
dalai said:

Why are you still surprised? We're little, we don't have the population, budget etc. Of course it's going to be a shittier version of a bigger budgeted show? Laughing


Not always - NZ was the originator of the popstars/pop idol type show! I know you still have that True Bliss album somewhere in your collection Dalai Razz


I know, I traditionally bring that up in these discussions but now I've decided to not support any reality television at all by mentioning any of it in a positive light. Razz
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NZ Deal or no deal takes the cake for shit-hole-ness

Now I can't stand that cunt Andrew that does the Aus version but fuck me days our rip off was like a form 1 media studies project
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I don't mind them making a local version. It's how incredibly shitty they are that is the problem. I don't know if it's a lack of talent or a lack of $$, but NZ reality telly is just so fkn embarrassing...
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Lazydog said:
NZ Deal or no deal takes the cake for shit-hole-ness

Now I can't stand that cunt Andrew that does the Aus version but fuck me days our rip off was like a form 1 media studies project


Andrew OKeiff is a legend...you hear me? LEGEND!!! Mad
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I dunno, Aussie gameshows I see here look like it's still 1977.
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kris_b said:
I dunno, Aussie gameshows I see here look like it's still 1977.



That Bert Newton is one up and coming talent though I must say. Watch that space!
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gummi_bear said:
I don't mind them making a local version. It's how incredibly shitty they are that is the problem. I don't know if it's a lack of talent or a lack of $$, but NZ reality telly is just so fkn embarrassing...


I'd say a little of column A and a little of column B. Razz
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Lazydog said:
NZ Deal or no deal takes the cake for shit-hole-ness

Now I can't stand that cunt Andrew that does the Aus version but fuck me days our rip off was like a form 1 media studies project


UK Deal or No Deal looks pretty fucking shabby too tbf.
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dalai said:



Are you having another rant abut NZ versions of overseas shows? :>

Why are you still surprised? We're little, we don't have the population, budget etc. Of course it's going to be a shittier version of a bigger budgeted show? Laughing


Don't make me take this to Facebook, Dale. :>

I'm not commenting so much on the format of the show but more the PEOPLE on it. You can't blame horrendous cooking skills or mindblowingly shit geographical knowledge on being from a little country, quite the opposite seeing as NZ has some of the loveliest quality food on the planet and Kiwis tend to have a fairly wide knowledge of the rest of the world because we travel so much. Maybe cooking shows attract idiots to participate?
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LeKnight said:
I heard the winner gets a book deal!?!
What sort of tard would buy this? Would it not make more sense to buy a book from an actual trained successful chef? Possibly for cheaper.
Masterchef...more knobs than a Morrissey concert.


Thomasina Miers (who won a Masterchef in the UK I think) released a cookbook which is fucking AWESOME if you like Mexican food. Kind of based around the recipes from her now very successful restaurants. Not the fanciest of food but damn it tastes good.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mexican-Food-Simple-Thomasina-Miers/dp/0340994975
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dalai said:
Bn1 said:
dalai said:

Why are you still surprised? We're little, we don't have the population, budget etc. Of course it's going to be a shittier version of a bigger budgeted show? Laughing


Not always - NZ was the originator of the popstars/pop idol type show! I know you still have that True Bliss album somewhere in your collection Dalai Razz


I know, I traditionally bring that up in these discussions but now I've decided to not support any reality television at all by mentioning any of it in a positive light. Razz


Yes we invented the idea. But believe me, the production value of the Pop Idol (which is what this discussion is about) was SHIT. Especially compared to the overseas versions of the show.
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gummi_bear said:
but NZ reality telly is just so fkn embarrassing...


Yep.. it is.
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Saw this on an NZ Masterchef which looked pretty good though:

http://tvnz.co.nz/masterchef-new-zealand/grilled-vege-stack-4007805
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dalai said:
gummi_bear said:
Why bother then? I mean, reality TV is (relatively) cheap as fuck to make... trust NZ to make it even cheaper and even shittier looking... :/



Believe me, I would be pleased as punch to never see a local version of a shitty reality show. Or even better, for the reality show to never exist at all but they're always going to make a local version because it's more relatable to their target audience. Why else do we see so many versions of shows like Masterchef et al if not for the same reason?

But that's the thing, do they even need to make it relatable to their audience? The foreign formats seem to be doing fine all on their own. I still tend to believe that the NZ versions are being made purely to keep those with otherwise useless degrees off the dole :>
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I for one am shocked, that a popstar reality show made in NZ for a few tens of thousands of dollars and a couple of slabs of beer has much lower production values than an American version of the same show with advertising revenues topping US$800 million a year. Shocked, shocked and amazed.
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Oh and Simon Gault slurs his speech like someone's drunk dad at the pub.
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Just saw him on Intrepid Journeys ... his constant "beautiful" in full NZ accent was a bit cringe
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I am impressed at their skills actually. Could you emulate an incredibly difficult dish one of NZ's top chefs makes? In 2 hours? That looked like a hard challenge for people who have never been a professional chef.

ps. Agreed. Hottest Home Baker is shit. Although the episode I watched with the chelsea buns looked soo tasty!
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Just* said:
I am impressed at their skills actually. Could you emulate an incredibly difficult dish one of NZ's top chefs makes? In 2 hours? That looked like a hard challenge for people who have never been a professional chef.

ps. Agreed. Hottest Home Baker is shit. Although the episode I watched with the chelsea buns looked soo tasty!


Or even that Michael Meiideth dessert looked hard out to put together
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That's what I was referring to Wink
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kris_b said:
bit stink with no food shows on atm

Erm, Hells Kitchen?! I could watch Gordon Ramsay yell at morons for hours. Brilliant TV. Very Happy
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A series that I watched when it finished airing in Dec 2010 doesn't really interest me Razz
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There was a later night version in the UK that was just uncut footage of them in the kitchen that was brilliant, all it was was an hour of them cooking while G-Ram yelled at them, no narration, no intros, no cutting away.
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Yeah it used to air here too, don't think they do it any more.

The trick was, you actually got to see what happened before the yelling:
- Chef demonstrates how he wants the scallops/risotto/whatever cook
- Contestant does it wrong
- Chef says 'no, not like that, it needs to be like this' and demonstrates again, correcting technique
- Contestant does it wrong again
- Chef corrects them again, shows them the right way, gets a little 'look' on.
- Contestant does it wrong again
- Chef asks them what they are doing and points out he's shown you a few times already, go and re-fire
- Contestant does it wrong AGAIN
- Chef gets angry, asks 'WHAT THE HELL'S WRONG WITH YOU DO IT AGAIN!"
- Contestant does it wrong AGAIN
- Chef throws the pan into the bin, calls the contestant a "FUCKING DONKEY", directs the chef to do it again
- Contestant does it wrong AGAIN AND AGAIN
- GET OUT

Very different to the final product that gives us the image we all know of Ramsay - this version of the show showed why he's considered a great chef to train under, and shows that he actually spends a lot of time with the contestants showing them the right way to cook the dishes and is actually pretty good at it, and you have to fuck up pretty badly to get him raging.
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Jono said:
G-Ram


Laughing

I remember you talking about that KB, wasnt it called "Raw" or something?
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YEAH that's the one.
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Just* said:
I am impressed at their skills actually. Could you emulate an incredibly difficult dish one of NZ's top chefs makes? In 2 hours?


You mean like following a recipe from a cookbook? Sure the dishes are technically difficult but I'd be more impressed to see them cook something a little bit more original that fucking spaghetti bolognese in a challenge! Sorry, 'ragu'. Neutral
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lots of cultural cringe in this thread. last years master chef uk was extremely high quality..one of the guys was doing all of this molecular gastronomy stuff - he wrote a food blog or something.

also if nz masterchef is so 'shit' - why are you even watching it?
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i'm not.
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Has anyone seen NZ Hottest Baker.. now that takes the cake (:>Wink for shittiest cooking programme EVER.
Most of them are terrible terrible bakers.. collapsing cakes/melting icing covered in 100000 berries . .. and that Colin guy with his sexual innuendos Crying or Very sad
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codpiece said:
also if nz masterchef is so 'shit' - why are you even watching it?


I'm morbidly fascinated by it. Plus we aren't allowed to watch anything except cooking shows at home. Mizzle said.
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kris_b said:
A series that I watched when it finished airing in Dec 2010 doesn't really interest me Razz

Yeah, fair enough. Smile Had kinda forgotten about it till I saw the ads on 2, but have been watching it online so I can catch up with the US. <3 Gordon Ramsey.