Chaos A.D appreciation thread.......

Or any other classic album you rate.

Seminal album to me, they took the heavy stuff to a new deeper, throbbier level than ever seen, and let bass come through proppa. Topped with some dope lyrics, and a mad Max's angst, i fuckin heart it.

rate it, hate it, offer your own favourite.

I got upset by Chaos. Not because it was a bad album, but they had slowed down ( I was really scared of bands "maturing" after Metallica's Black Album....pffft fuck you Lars and Bob Rock). Im a real energy freak when it comes to the hard gear.
Beneath the Remains, still to this day is one of my desert island albums. I saw them on the Arise tour and it kicked my ass.


Taken for the "Under Siege" live Video.

Yes I too prefer Beneath the Remains and Arise. In fact I think Arise in my favourite Sepultura album.
Thats not to say I think Chaos A.D. is not very good. Its still very brutal and very Sep.

These are pretty much my "Classic" - desert island albums.
All pre 2000

Beneath the Remains - Sepultura
Live After Death - Iron Maiden
City - Strapping Young Lad
Master of Puppets - Metallica ( oh come on... Orion!! you know its amazing)
Among the Living - Anthrax
Reign in Blood - Slayer (I have to add this album otherwise Ill be murdered)
How Will I Laugh Tommorrow - Suidcidal Tendencies
Unknown Road - Pennywise
The Wall - Pink Floyd
Slipknot - Slipknot
Blessed are the Sick - Morbid Angel
Once Upon the Cross - Deicide

Arrrrggggh fuck this sucks, there's too many.... Metal \m/

Ha ha and they are all old bastards!!
This is how you play metal kiddies, pay attention.





Brutal.

You fucking bogan

Heres mine

Danzig - II Lucifuge
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Fear Factory - Demanufacture
Metallica - ..And Justice for All
Suicidal Tendencies - The Art of Rebellion
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Slipknot - Slipknot
Slipknot - Iowa
Black Label Society - Sonic Brew
The Exploited - The Massacre
Hatebreed - The Rise of Brutality.

Chaos AD is awesome - one of the essential '90s metal albums for sure. This album marked a departure from the more traditional thrash stylings of their previous efforts (and of the metal scene in general), signalling a move into slower, groovier tempos whilst retaining the energy and brutality. For a brief time here, Sepultura (along with Pantera) ruled the metal world!

Gene Hoglan is an awesome drummer, but dude, those vocals are bloody terrible

Astral, I was going to put in Iowa, but it was post 2000. Good to see some Exploited there and Demanufacture (I obsessed over that album).

Ha ha, yeah Devons vocals get a bit wonky live. But Gene, omg Gene is the man.

I remember getting a limited edition box set of Choas AD that came in a tin with unique artwork and a massive Sepultura flag. I thought I was the bees fucking knees.

Ha ha, I still have mine!! I just wanted it for the bonus tracks, no interwebs back then.
Policia and Inhuman Nature.
I have Igors backstage crew pass from the Chaos tour.

Chaos AD = epic. Loved that album back in the day. Same for Slipknots self titled, Demanufacture, any Metallica ever (well, pre Saint Anger anyway) and nobody has mentioned Machineheads Burn My Eyes (or The Less Things Change for that matter) or The Great Southern Trendkill. Fucking FLOODS BABY!!!

And sorry if this offends peoples delicate sensibilities by posting nu-metal in here but was a fan of Coal Chambers' Chamber Music and pre-2000 Korn.

You already offended my delicate sensibilities by mentioning Slipknot and "pre-Saint Anger (which mean Load/Re-Load)

S'all good though, that Machinehead album is cool and TRENDKILL is fucking awesome! Floods indeed... I'd rate that as the best Pantera album tbh.

Haha, I seem to be one of the few Metallica fans that actually enjoyed Reload. It was an amazing album! Fixxxer, Low Mans Lyric, Where The Wild Things Are, Unforgiven 2 (admittedly, this took a little while to grow on me as I was such a huge fan of 1), Carpe Diem Baby, Devils Dance, Prince Charming. Massively underappreciated imo.

Even Load (my least favourite album overall) had its strokes of genius: Outlaw Torn, Until It Sleeps, Hero Of The Day, and Bleeding Me are all phenomenal. House That Jack Built was decent too.

Ha ha - CT you redeemed yourself by dropping Machine Head and Pantera, but dude the black album onwards is utter bollocks.
It was like having your parents split up or something. When I first heard the opening of Enter Sandman, I just knew the whole album was
gonna be shit. As for Load etc.... I wouldnt even give it a metal tag. Lars and Bob Rock destroyed one of the best metal bands of all time.

There were a couple of mean tracks on that album. Sad But True, Wherever I May Roam, Through The Never were definitely metal as. But yeah, that was the clear transition.

I personally love the black album. It was the soundtrack to my mid teens!
Sure if Cliff Burton was still alive it might have been different. The Black Album was the tipping point, after that it went downhill with St Anger being virtually unlistenable. Death Magnetic was a step in the right direction. At the least I think we just have to be satisfied that Metallica did what they did in the 80's and that music will live on forever.

rad.

This. But twas my early teens.

As for the pre/post Black Album thing: I like Bacon & Eggs with HP sauce, and I also like Eggs Benedict. Different flavours, but it's all still bacon & eggs innit

Also, I would like to point out that And Justice For All came after Burtons death...

I was fourth form when the black album came out.
On my lunch break I borrowed my mates ten speed, raced down to the record store (they were still called that then) and
purchased my pre ordered copy on vinyl.
That evening I put it on and sobbed like a little girl.
The closest anything came to "Metallica" on that album was the intro to "Holier than thou", the intro riff to "Through the Never",
and the intro to "The Struggle Within". Its all intros.... hmmm.
James began his "cowboy" singing, Lars spent too much time admiring his hair, and not enough time coming up with anything
interesting in the beat department.
Kriks solos were still on however.

I dont think it has anything to do with Cliff, like CT said, they gave us Justice after Cliff (Dyers Eve? Holy shit!!), so thats not it.

Let us think about this...

They switched producers from a truly gifted monster guitar tone whiz Flemming Rassmusen, to 80's super glam fucktard
Bob Rock. This I believe is/was the issue. Coupled with Lars being a complete tosser ( I just watched "A Year and a Half" again,
and he was recording his takes with sunglasses on......in the studio where there is no sun........at night.....once again no sun).
Bob is like Grima Wormtonge, always whispering in his ear, playing to his vanities.
This was later proven by a global pertition to have Metallica drop Bob Rock. For Odin's sake, he played bass on St Anger?!?!?!

I understand wanting to write something a bit more simple to play, just for the rock out factor, also the whole "maturing" thing.
But its like a bacon company that makes quality wood smoked bacon, releasing a line of bacon flavored meat in order to make more money.
At least when Slipknot did the "ballad" thing, it was twisted and emotionally heavy (Vermillion, Nameless, Snuff).

Sorry about the rant, it just fucks me off. Lemmy should have bashed them.

Yeah but Jasons bass was barely there on Justice. Plus he basically had no say in the band whatsoever, he was just happy to be there.
I bet Cliff would have kept things on a path and James and Lars would have listened to him. Even Kirk kept his head down when the artistic words started flying.
Thats how I read it anyway.

Metallica nerds. Worst kind.
Interestingly I think after all this time, Megadeth come out with the moral high ground.

Dude, have you heard Megadeth's new album? Endgame, holy shit, it's fucking good.
Peace Sells, and Rust style riffing, and its fast.

I'm not so sure Megadeth can claim the moral high ground. The only surviving member is Mustaine, and they released some shocking albums in the last decade, definitely on par with Metallica's at least.

Oh well there's one band to rule them all anyways, and that's mothafucking SLAYER!! The only true metal band!

Actually I take that back. There is also Morbid Angel.

And while I'm here. "Megadeth's So Far So Good So What" - the most underrated thrash metal album of the '80s.

Slayer will always be my favourite metal band.
Its not even worth mentioning them in a debate about who the best band is. All you can ever do is argue over who is second.

Its true about Slayer, the older they get - the heavier they become.
There's a great thrash doco called "Get Thrashed" by Rat Skates (the drummer from Overkill)
and everyone keeps referring to a Slayer show at the La Monde (I think its called).
Yes Slayer wore make up, but they wore it to freak the fuck out of the glam dudes.
It worked. People were actually scared of Slayer.

Also agree on the Morbid Angel thing. Alters of Madness, and Blessed are the Sick are superb
albums, Pete Sandoval is a wicked drummer, and David Vincent had the best "cookie monster"
voice of the whole Tampa florida crew.
I always went for them over Deicide.

So far so good....was under rated for sure. Its just the fact they had their version of Anarchy
on the album, and people wanted more. I love "into the lungs of hell"

There was a shit load of great thrash coming out of the late 80's, but everyone was just
focusing on the big 4, and the big M in particular.
Overkill
Kreator
Suicidal Tendencies
Forbidden
Sodom
RDP
Larz Rokkit
Sepultura (one of my all time faves)
Nuclear Assault
Death
Flotsam and Jetsam
even Mortal Sin from oz.

Fuck, Ive just finished listening to Pantera's live album, and the way Phil introduces "Hostile" and then
the intro to the song instantly took me back to their first show here in NZ.
When they played Hostile, everyone, and I mean everyone went completley apeshit!.
Still one of my fave gigs ever, just due to the mayhem factor!

I saw Pantera on the Reinventing The Steel tour @ the Town Hall.. was one of the best concerts I've ever been to for sure! Suicide Note Part 2.. brutal!

Was that the show where Deluge played support?

Im going thru a bit of a Pantera thing at the moment. Ive never really appreciated them due to the fact they only have one guitar.
I need two for the heavy factor.
But I have always fully respected them....even if they did begin as glam rock.
Theres a funny band pic on wiki featuring Phil with teased hair!! ha ha.

But fuck Dime could shred.


Brutal.

Pantera were heavy but they didnt have the speed and 'sickeningly melodic' vibe - which I think is where Slayer did it for me.
But in saying that I really liked Pantera. They had some of the most interesting personalities in the scene and I loved watching their "Vulgar Video" (much to my mums disgust). That outdoor gig they played in Russia was awesome. Rex was very sweaty.

Dimebag was awesome. I was quite upset when I heard he had been killed, had to leave work and go for a walk around the block.

Well done sir.
Very nice.

Just watched Vh1's Behind the music - Pantera.

Show's Dime getting shot on stage.
Im feeling very angry now.

Corrosion Of Conformity I think.. Phil Anselmo was in his phase of wearing Darkthrone t-shirts so as you can imagine he was pretty brutal on the vocals.