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Im looking at getting a car this week.... as my honda is just fuked and is old....I want to spend 8k and want a hatchback ....I was thinking a Mazda 2 or something...I want something cute not nanna...Can anyone recommend a good car....and a good dealership in Auckland...thats a bunch.
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Thanks a bunch I meant....
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Why do you want to spend 8K? you should be able to get a decent car for 5~6 - look for cars around 100-120K ,drive them to 170~180 and repeat.

Mazdas are good cars - not quite as good as toyotas but people seem to want a whole lot more for a toyota than is reasonable. Wheels on wairau are good though they specialise in low k cars.
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What about Rav 4s are they ok,,,bit soccer mum but I need to get a more grown up vehicle....
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Rav4's are generally terrible from a 4x4 perspective... They will guzzle petrol !

You should consider fuel consumption as well, smaller cars with smaller engines use less fuel and tend to be more economical Razz
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This is what I'd do: get a car person ('cept that person would be me) and tour Hammer Auctions one Saturday. Save several thousand. Don't think it's called Hammer anymore though...
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resist said:
You should consider fuel consumption as well, smaller cars with smaller engines use less fuel and tend to be more economical Razz

And yeah, don't buy a gas guzzler, limited resource, fucking expensive, all that. Cars... just get one that works and costs as little as possible.
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Get a RAV4 if thats what you want, they're only 2L right? So will use a bit more than your 16 Honda, but their not exactly Holdens. Both my last cars were 2L. You could go to the auctions one night to check out whats going for what (Turners), to get a bit of perspective, but they have good price guides on their website anyway.

At the end of the day one of the key things is how many K's whatever you get has done, you should be able to spend 8K and get something thats done between 60~100k and still get something you like.

My final piece of advice... you should have bought my BMW, even though it wasn't a hatch Razz
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A Rav 4 will cost you about 3k a year for petrol if you do ~14000ks
A Vitz/Yaris will cost you 1.5k a year for petrol if you do ~14000ks.
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I'm not disagreeing with your figures, its just at the end of the day you have to drive a Vitz/Yaris.. not that I personally think a RAV4 is much better.. but if QT likes them then hey...
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Infact I'd probably recommend you get a Mazda 2 over a RAV..

RAV's are pretty spew, no matter how old you are Wink
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A car gets from A to B right ?

Don't really see them as anything else Razz
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I actually catch the train Sad

BUT.. sometimes, very occasionally after work.. I get a whole carriage to myself, and I have this uncontrollable urge to sing out loud or do something crazy.. because fuck it, I've got the whole carriage to myself..

Need more songs... before I do something crazy!
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No way could I drive a Vitz those cars are minging...Im gonna go check out some caryards today...I did want a BMW but wont get one..Same with a rav4 ....I want a Suzuki Swift but dont have enough money hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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a 1960s vespa scooter would get you a -> b rory....

Most people dont need a 2l, 1.8 and even some 1.6s are plenty of power for most driving these days.... though some cheap cars have auto transmissions that kill a 1.6L

Mazda (which includes some fords) or Toyota should be your first looking point but theres plenty of options. Some of the USell places might be worth a look too, especially to get an idea of what it is you like the look of.
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Gah! was just at some car dealers they were all so soft and lala with me like im a dumb girl....Think I might just go with trademe....This sux. Sad
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These look good ???

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/impreza/auction-418054625.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/audi/a3/auction-405586290.htm

awww the Audi is so cute..and the subaru looks quite cool and is economical I like the white.. .

OMFG excite Very Happy wonder why these cars are so cheap though.. hrmmm the dealerships didn't have anything under 13k.. weird.
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haha don't think anyone gives a rats but I am most likely .. if they get back to me.. am going to get AA to inspect this car and hopefully get this.. it's cute unfussy and with some tints it'll look cute as Smile

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/toyota/glanza/auction-415408995.htm

yay for trademe...

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1300 cc in an auto? Yikes, hope you are not planning on driving up any hills!! maybe go for a car with a bigger engine size or manual at least.

Wink
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Sad what's wrong with a 1300cc ... what about this one?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/impreza/auction-418054625.htm

it's 1500cc but a bigger car..
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bob said:
Why do you want to spend 8K? you should be able to get a decent car for 5~6 - look for cars around 100-120K ,drive them to 170~180 and repeat.

Mazdas are good cars - not quite as good as toyotas but people seem to want a whole lot more for a toyota than is reasonable. Wheels on wairau are good though they specialise in low k cars.


I disagree. 100K is about the magic line where shit starts going wrong with the car and you have to start replacing everything. It's far better to get something that has done 60k and not have to spend all that extra cash replacing shit that's old and busted straight away.

Biggest thing QT is to make sure you get the car checked out before buying. A mechanic will tell you if it's likely you're going to be spending heaps of cash replacing parts any time soon.
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QTRARO said:
Sad what's wrong with a 1300cc ... what about this one?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/impreza/auction-418054625.htm

it's 1500cc but a bigger car..



Subaru's tend to break down a lot so can be expensive to maintain. You want something that's reliable.
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QTRARO said:
Sad what's wrong with a 1300cc ... what about this one?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/impreza/auction-418054625.htm

it's 1500cc but a bigger car..


The Starlet will handle it better than the Subaru. Impreza's are heavy for their size, and even the 1.5's are guzzlers compared to other 1.5's. I've driven a 1.5 Impreza, it's....not good.
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Cool I'm going to organise a AA inspection before I buy anything. ...

I like the Toyota Starlet though it's cute and I drive slow so 1300cc doesn't bother me.. as long as it'll get me to Manghawai that's about as up hill as I'd go maybe once a year.
Wish they'd reply to my text though wah!
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QTRARO said:
Sad what's wrong with a 1300cc ... what about this one?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/impreza/auction-418054625.htm

it's 1500cc but a bigger car..


Nothing at all. As long as you don't expect to go drifting ir drag racing in it. 1300cc cars are generally very economical. Smile
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dalai said:
I disagree. 100K is about the magic line where shit starts going wrong with the car and you have to start replacing everything. It's far better to get something that has done 60k and not have to spend all that extra cash replacing shit that's old and busted straight away.


lol. 100k doesn't mean "shit starts going wrong" it's just the line where some important maintenance items are needed - cam belt and associated works being the obvious one. That's the big, expensive thing she needs to watch out for, or looks for a Nissan with a chain driven cam (lots of the 1.6 and up Pulsars et al have that).

Modern cars handle vastly higher mileage than their predecessors' with no dramas, assuming proper maintenance.
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And yeah, you'll have no dramas with a 1300 Starlet. Yes, the auto will make it suck a bit more, but it will be perfectly serviceable for you. Worst case, you make your left hand do some work and manually shift it down a gear or two on a big hill.
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Anglebox or an escort van! MkIII Cortina?
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kris_b said:
dalai said:
I disagree. 100K is about the magic line where shit starts going wrong with the car and you have to start replacing everything. It's far better to get something that has done 60k and not have to spend all that extra cash replacing shit that's old and busted straight away.


lol. 100k doesn't mean "shit starts going wrong" it's just the line where some important maintenance items are needed - cam belt and associated works being the obvious one. That's the big, expensive thing she needs to watch out for, or looks for a Nissan with a chain driven cam (lots of the 1.6 and up Pulsars et al have that).

Modern cars handle vastly higher mileage than their predecessors' with no dramas, assuming proper maintenance.



That's largely what I was referring to, I just summed it up in layman speak for QT. Razz

My car started to experience issues after the 100k mark, oil leaks etc. According to the expert in the family it is really common for shit to start happening after a car has done about that mileage. And my car is about the epitome of the modern reliable car.
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LeKnight said:
Anglebox or an escort van! MkIII Cortina?
haha that would be badass! <3 Cortinas..

I really want the starlet .. I've always wanted a white car. heh.
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dalai said:
My car started to experience issues after the 100k mark, oil leaks etc. According to the expert in the family it is really common for shit to start happening after a car has done about that mileage. And my car is about the epitome of the modern reliable car.


Mate you got a dud! 260k over here and she's dry as a bone! Razz
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Heh. With the way you treat cars too, I'm impressed. Like I said, the old fulla says he sees it all the time with cars about that mileage.
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My honda has done over 250,000ks and I never got it serviced or anything.. so it's my own fault it's fucked.. but it would have still been going good if I didn't treat it like shit.. now it's stored away in my garage until I can be fucked sorting it out. I am such a loser when it comes to cars.

Oh well hopefully Ill get the Starlet so I can start again and look after it... 100,000ks isn't that much if it's been looked after.
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Hondas don't like 250+ kms. It was fairly inevitable really QT.


My old car... 20 years old! & 180K's didn't leak oil either. I'd fully expect another 100k out of her with minimal maintenance.

Kris kris and your bad driving! Wink
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Apparently stretching the cars legs is a bad thing now!



I aint driving some clapped out British hunk of crap half screwed together by drunk midlanders on strike, I'm driving the product of modern Japanese precision engineering, well overbuilt and with years of proven reliability. It laughs in the face of a mere 6500rpm!
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Laughing
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Don't cross the road kids! Old Captain Leadfoot and his ship the HMS Maxima is out cruising the moors tonight... :>
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Most modern cars will do really well to 200K but it seems to be a problem for some people so its a good idea to sell before 200 if you want value. Of course the older the car the more important how well its been looked after becomes.

Cam belt and water pump around 100K is important and theres some cars that have particular quirks that make themselves evident at certain number of ks - some nissans and mitsis used to have this.
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dalai said:
Don't cross the road kids! Old Captain Leadfoot and his ship the HMS Maxima is out cruising the moors tonight... :>


SOUND THE FOGHORN!
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the blue Audi A3 thats only done just over 80000ks for under 5k...seems a bit suss..why would it be so cheap...

.How long should people on trademe be given to reply....seems stupid if they put something to sell and then dont reply to people who are interested...morons.
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Q) Why would it be so cheap...?
A) Cause its only an Audi A3... (What year is it?)

Q) How long should people on trademe be given to reply?
A) 24 hours
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Its a 97....and bright blue....Im going to see the starlet tomorrow hopefully its deece....does anyone know if you organise a evaluation by aa if you have to be there or if they just give a report....i tried to call them but its outside their stupid hours ....
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hmmm well so its 14 years old, possibly 5K is a reasonable price. I'm assuming thats the offer price, and not the starting bid price or anything? Or are you looking at the auctions because cars ARE generally a lot cheaper there Smile
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No Im most likely going to get the Toyota Starlet...I need a car asap and Im gonna offer 4800 see what she says...shes asking for 5200ono.... It looks tidy and 5k is nothing really...one day Ill get my big flashy car when Im a older cougar..
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QTRARO said:
the blue Audi A3 thats only done just over 80000ks for under 5k...seems a bit suss..why would it be so cheap...

.How long should people on trademe be given to reply....seems stupid if they put something to sell and then dont reply to people who are interested...morons.


Because mid 90's - early 00's Audi's aren't particularly reliable. Lots of electrics shit themselves.
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Ok ..thought there had to be a reason as theres quite a few audis going cheap...
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heh the Toyota Starlet is a bit wear and tearish but ok.. got the AA guy looking at it now for a preinspection report thing. ... hopes it's not a lemon I am sick of looking at cars Sad lames.
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Can I forward someone the AA report about the car for another point of view .. it looks really bad to me WAH!!.. ?
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why not walk... may as well put that lavender smell to good use

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Your such a walker bob...
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Sure. Mail to qtraro@guidance.net.nz
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its me feet see
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kris_b said:
Sure. Mail to qtraro@guidance.net.nz


huhza.

lol

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bob d . do you know stuff about cars Sad
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OK FINE DON"T EMAIL ME THEN!
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but you put the wrong email address.. I would love to email you
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I know stuff all about cars QT

I'm not even good at kicking tires #massivemanfail
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Nope, that address works. I try to avoid putting my main address on forums where they get easily picked up by spambots.
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HOW TO CONVERT QTR TO KSB?
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hahaha OMG I'm just stressed out end of month at work.. bunged cars Sad .. I have emailed it to that qtroar one thanks Krisb I thought you were having a senior moment Wink
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Not worth 5k. Tell em he's dreamin!
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yep it's a young shore chick.I'm gonna text who with my bitch on..... tryna lie to me and said she got it serviced all the time.. lil lying bitch!!

back to trademe to find me a car.. yay Neutral
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Kris do you really think this car would suck.. I keep going back to it.. the ks are so low.. and it looks tidy...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/impreza/auction-418054625.htm

nothing can be worse than that hump of junk glanza :*(
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You are obviously rushing to purchase a vehicle.....

Flag that heap of shite Subaru, if the Auto goes in it your fucked.
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yeah I hate relying on other people to get me to work n stuff I hate not having my indepdence it's killing me..

What about this bmw.. lol it's tidy and looks ok..my god there are not many options

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/318ti/auction-417517730.htm
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not sure why this is so cheap, probably they expect bids to life the price. But Peugot 206 looks pretty tidy!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/peugeot/206/auction-418896261.htm
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I'm now looking tonight at a Misty FTO .. Very Happy it's a V6 1998cc.. white and badass. Very Happy

Hopefully it's not another dud..
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Peugot's aint really cheap for parts. My friend had one and a part inside her door broke, cost her $800. Apparently the same Mitsi part would be $80

I'm not saying all Peugots are bad, but if you need parts, be prepared to bend over
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Get a Mitsi! They are great.
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YAY Very Happy Can't wait to check it out.. here is the link to it..

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=418043283

hopefully the RYAN thing comes off the bonnet. but it looks fun and better than everything else I've looked at which is either super nanna or too many ks.
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1998 tiptronic? Danger, danger...
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Jono said:
1998 tiptronic? Danger, danger...


Oh well I'm going to get a AA inspection done on it before I give any money or anything.

THey check that stuff.. can I not just get the transmission changed to just auto? Whats wrong with triptonic.. my heart is set on this car Sad
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Nothing with with "tiptronic", in this case it's simply a conventional auto with the option to shift manually.


BUT - I know of several issues with Mitsi auto's of that era. My brother actually went through one in a Galant, scrapped that car because it wasn't worth the work, then his newer model Galant blew it's gearbox too.


Other than that, FTO's are pretty nice, sporty wee things, but replacing the cambelt on the V6's is a PIG of a job.
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Hi QT, previous experience has shown that no matter what you suggest someones going to say "ooooh not that one" + "my cousins sisters ex flatmate once knew someone who drove one and blah blah blah"

Basically you're screwed.
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Reckon, nothing wrong with a mule or a pack horse.
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get a pumpkin and see what it turns into come midnight on the 31st
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Plus its the end of the world next year, so you don't need to worry about servicing beyond another 15000K.
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Haha yeah everyone has something bad to say about EVERY car I even think of liking LOL.. it's like well hard/rock place. Plus if I get that car I have a few k left to get whatever fixed ...

It says this:

Always serviced on time, accident free car, just replaced brake pads, comes with cam-belt kit changed (timing belt, water pump replaced).

WTF does that cam belt bit mean.. he sounds really fresh lol
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Cambelt changed is good! Means you don't need to worry about it for another 100,000km.
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PhunkyDave said:
Hi QT, previous experience has shown that no matter what you suggest someones going to say "ooooh not that one" + "my cousins sisters ex flatmate once knew someone who drove one and blah blah blah"

Basically you're screwed.


Thing is though, that's why you ask people.

There are plenty of cars I'd suggest without hesitation, but that's not what we're doing here. And even then, I'd chime in with known problems.
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kris_b said:
Cambelt changed is good! Means you don't need to worry about it for another 100,000km.


Ok that's good then. So it sounds ok then?

I mean looks like it's well looked after and it's fairly priced..

AA will give me a thorough report on it . .. so I hope it's all ok.
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It's a good idea to ask if they have proof of all that work - ie can they show you the invoices otherwise you have to take them on trust
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OneHappy said:
It's a good idea to ask if they have proof of all that work - ie can they show you the invoices otherwise you have to take them on trust


Yeah I will tonight.. plus I can ask the AA to check it when they go for the inspection if it gets that far.
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Does indeed look pretty tidy. Check it out and see what you think.

One thing I just thought of is check out the back seat room since you might need to put kids back there. From memory they are pretty cosy, even for kids.
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He says his wife's been driving it .... hmmmm ... is her name "Ryan"?
an "economical" V6 is a big call i would have thought
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Personaly I'd be interested in establishing if its been thrashed, its a tiptronic V6 racer and it has what looks like an aftermarket steering wheel and peddels. You need a man to give it a test drive for you before throwing money at the AA
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OneHappy said:
Personaly I'd be interested in establishing if its been thrashed, its a tiptronic V6 racer and it has what looks like an aftermarket steering wheel and peddels. You need a man to give it a test drive for you before throwing money at the AA


I know I'm not that stupid Wink pretty much all the cars say "wifes run around" etc so it's like whatevs. I don't need a man to test drive it I will give it a good go and I don't mind getting it AA checked it I like it.. it's peace of mind. Smile I'll take whatever he has to say with a grain of salt..

The last car I checked out was a young chick who looked me straight in the face and said she had just gotten it serviced etc.. AA report proved she hadn't had it serviced and it is pissing oil ... lil shore bitch.
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OneHappy said:
an "economical" V6 is a big call i would have thought


It's only a 2l. Mitsi even did 1.8's too, and yeah they are pretty much on par with a regular 2l, with the bonus of having a better torque profile and run really smoothly compared to an equivalent sized 4.

Unlike my 3l guzzler in a large family sized saloon with a thirst for premium and my lead foot enabling it :>
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kris_b said:
OneHappy said:
an "economical" V6 is a big call i would have thought


It's only a 2l. Mitsi even did 1.8's too, and yeah they are pretty much on par with a regular 2l, with the bonus of having a better torque profile and run really smoothly compared to an equivalent sized 4.

Unlike my 3l guzzler in a large family sized saloon with a thirst for premium and my lead foot enabling it :>



Not to mention a thirst for blood!
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kris- still rocking the Assyrian Taxi?
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The FTO looks good QT! Tiptronic is handy, and although it's a sample of 1, my old triptronic Lancer of the same age never had problems with it or the transmission. You might get tappit issues tho.. seems to be a common mitzi thing of that era.. but that's more annoying than an actual problem Smile
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Yeah as far as Auto goes being tiptronic is a nice bonus Smile
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I just went to see it.. it's pretty boy racer though momo steering wheel and mags n stuff ... he's going to get the cambelt/water pump timing belt changed for me next week...if I go ahead with it.

I LIKE! it's like a girl batmobile.. haha...
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Yayyyyy I got the FTO todaay ...its soooooooooo cool I love it so much yayyyyy its worth heaps more than i got it for too its in mint condition .... yayyyyyyyyyyyyza
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Congrats! Very Happy
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Wooohooo!!!

I was longingly looking at cars on the weekend
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Hehe thanks the car is bangin...Its got mean sounds too and is super quick and grunty.... <3 couldnt be happier so glad I didnt get a nanna cat lifes too short for that shit..
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Now make sure you get that shit regularly serviced girl!

Oh and the car too. Razz
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dalai said:
Now make sure you get that shit regularly serviced girl!


Sup Arizona,