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Firefox really is lagging behind these days huh? I've been using Safari 4 for ages 'cause webkit seems to smoke mozilla in terms of speed and the developer tools rock...

FF 3.6 comes out, they've magically picked up 20% speed and startup is quicker, but I can still click on a FF icon, wait a few seconds, click on Safari and Safari will load long before FF.

"Awesome bar?" 2008 wants its feature back :\

Personalisation? Yet to find a theme that doesnt look horrible :\

I can only assume google committing back to webkit is going to accelerate the innovation too...?
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isnt it slow to start because of the way it checks and loads plugins?
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The plugin manager needs a fucking massive revamp. And it needs to quit stopping loading when it finds updates waiting for you to confirm, then loading updates, one by fucking one then have an okay dialogue box before it opens the browser. Talk about clunky and annoying, I don't know how it's got this far down the road without being altered.

I was using chrome for my email (which is in google mail) in tandem with ff (dual monitors makes having 2 browsers open quite doable) but I'm using a bit more for other things too. Chrome opens and loads a page while ff is still loading. Might give safari another spin, although some of it's behaviours annoyed me on the mac.
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Apparently the plugin loader *has* been revamped, way quicker than it used to be, but still way slower than webkit
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using it now, aesthetically pleasing as you'd expect Razz

But I looked up plugins and found a bunch that would extend the functionality to some of firefox's strengths (like better tab options) then discovered they are all mac only Sad
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I can't help but feel they could alleviate some of the start up issues by loading the browser first, then the plugins. Dunno how feasible that is tho.

I virtually never close my browser anyway so not a worry for me.
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I do like the 'open links click from one tab immediately to the right of that tab' thing. Will take a bit of getting used to, but I like keeping my shit organised like that.
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Does Chrome have an ad blocker yet?
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Has had one for a long time. Since maybe a week after it launched.
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You use a Mac don't you Andrew? Surely you don't Command-Q out of your browser all that often? Startup time shouldn't really be an issue on Mac.

I agree 3.6 is a bit of a weak update though. 3.7 (or whatever they're calling it now) has some nice features coming through Smile
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kris_b said:
I can't help but feel they could alleviate some of the start up issues by loading the browser first, then the plugins. Dunno how feasible that is tho.

I virtually never close my browser anyway so not a worry for me.


Mine crashes many times a day on Win7 x64. Fucking annoying. Memory leaks to hell as well. 1GB being used by firefox.exe *32 isn't uncommon.
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Odd. 7x64 here too, current uptime is about 4.5 days and currently 261mb ram with ~10 tabs open. And virtually no crashes. What sort of plugin load?
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I use it on win7 on both 32 and 64 bit and dont have a problem.

Ad block
No script
Down them all
and the Aus dictionary
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Why would you use .au dictionary? They can't spell properly. Use the NZ dictionary, it at least uses the Queens English, not the hybrid wannabe American crap .au uses.
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I find FF can get a bit out of hand with the memory, but I usually only notice that if I have been debugging stuff using the Firebug plugin.
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I didnt know there was an NZ one - im sure there wasnt when i last looked.
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kris_b said:
Why would you use .au dictionary? They can't spell properly. Use the NZ dictionary, it at least uses the Queens English, not the hybrid wannabe American crap .au uses.


I still cant see an NZ one...
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blacknight said:
Surely you don't Command-Q out of your browser all that often?


Yup i'm the incessant desktop clearer and program closer. I regularly have things like Photoshop / Indesign / Illustrator / Textmate / Navicat / Skype / Mail / Safari open and often run up a VM so I do this subconscious perennial weeding thing Razz
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kris_b said:
Odd. 7x64 here too, current uptime is about 4.5 days and currently 261mb ram with ~10 tabs open. And virtually no crashes. What sort of plugin load?


Nothing out of the ordinary I don't think?



This is win7 x64, booting using the standard OEM loader hax thing from MyDigitalLife forums

If you do know of anything, I'm keen to try it - it really does fuck me right off. Tbh I haven't spent a huge amount of time troubleshooting it - I should do a complete reinstall of Firefox or something.
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Bob: Sorry, my bad, I must have been thinking something else. UK English is the way forward, as I said, AU uses too many US spellings.

heresy: Greasemonkey maybe? Usual tip is disable all, and add them back in one at a time, a few hours apart, see if you can pick which one is doing it. Nothing unusual there really.

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OH btw - Skype plugin (which you don't have but still) is TERRIBLE. Slows down FF terribly, hence it being disabled in mine.