Black Science Orchestra remixes...

Anyone else heard the new mixes of BSO?

The Ashley Beedle Disco Throwback mix of 'Save Us' is wicked.. as is the Dixon mix of Men With Sticks '3rd Eye'

This EP has some of the best remixes of old house tunes I've heard in ages.

is this from the Walters Room re-issue bonus disc styles?

It's the EP release called JBO Revisited Volume 1 (on traxxsource etc). The Beedle mix of 'Save Us' is on the Walters Room re-issue tho. It's a wicked remix, could have been made a decade ago or yesterday - love tunes like that.

*looks around*

I love Ashley Beedle

*blushes*

in a manly way of course, fuckers

I agree that it is a solid remix package.

BUT.

The remixes are all sounding REAL dated. Like 5 years old easily.

The Dixon one stands out as being freshest, and is real nice, but it'd still sound old in a set. A tight as edit, but it's another thing, Dixon edits and re-engineers things rather than remixes.. Which is sweet - and it's playable as hell.

However, I was very disappointed in the rest. Ah well.

Matt.. that Beedle mix of 'Save us' is eons better than 99% of the house tunes I've heard all year. It's great.. And I reckon a big appeal of Beedle's stuff is that you can't tell how old it is.

The 2008 edit of 'New Jersey Deep' is the one I was hoping for way more from. I could do a better edit than that in about 60 mins (I'll prove it if anyone likes ). All they did is overlay the intro beats on the outro for mixing and not much else.

Volume 2 will have some big ones on it for sure...

haha - yeah, I hate it when you hear an edit that sounds like someone has just slapped a track in soundforge, cut a few bars out and then added some reverb swells.

Man, Beedle ALWAYS sounds oldschool. Wish he'd stop using such dated sound palettes. MAW have more updated drums than him! heh

Where have you been hiding 08 has been way way better than the 3or so previous years with LOTS of great music

Beedle is sooooooo hit and miss, I would have thought most people would have known this ( saw him a few years back and fell asleep
HOUSE= Soooo passe ( eh websta>>>
lol
Merry x mass to everybody

I've still heard (probably) in the thousands of house tunes this year and agree that there has been tons of good ones... I guess I mean these ones in the jammy house sort of zone. Not comparing them to Alland Byallo or Funk D'Void etc which are more futuristic styles to me.

I'd take these any day over Copywright etc.

Will still check it out, Walters Room is an old favourite of mine..

Rob - stop calling Funk D'Void, Carl Craig and Stacey Pullen house.


Tho, then you'd have to start calling yourself a progressive techno dj.

Your fears might be realised - the reason the BSO stuff is being re-released and remixed is that Defected bought the rights to the JBO back-cat.

Dunmore promised when they bought the rights to Strictly that they wouldn't cheapen the legacy with corny remix pacakages - but sure enough Dirty South & Chocolate Puma got their filthy paws on plenty of those Strictly classics.

Expect Copyright and Junior Jack remixes of BSO coming to a digital store near you...

Are you sure you're not somehow separating these guys from the likes of Copyright, Freemasons just because they sound very different and not actually because they're not just often making straight-up house?

Tell me what is not house about Francois Dubois 'Melody' and Funk D'Void 'Lovin'' please.

It's house to me and it fits the broad criteria so far as it's been for well over a decade (whether or not it also might fit into other genre criteria is irrelevant).

Pick two of his (by far worst) tracks that he has made... on his more houset tip.

But in general Francois is techno, tech-house, one of the biggest post-Detroit techno producers around.

His sound these days is mainly tech-house. But his biggest tracks are mainly techno orientated... But if you map his stuff, it's almost always rooted firmly in the Detroit scene, heavy use of techno chords, plenty of 727 percussion, heavy low end kicks, crunched top end, etc etc...

He truely shines when he's techno.

...

Not sure what you mean by the first sentence tho.
I was just pointing out that in the main, artists such as Funk D'Void, Carl Craig and Stacey Pullen reach their peak when doing techno. Their housey numbers are always their least sublime.

Total LOL Matt. 'Lovin'' is, by far, one of his best tracks in recent years. Have another listen.

Point of this thread being:
- Black Science Orchestra have some remixes done of their classics.
- Some of them are quite bloody quality.
- Beedle does his old-school sounding thing fucking amazingly - probably better than anyone. Saying he uses the same sound patches over and over while half the world masterbates over Deadmau5 and Pryda who do the same kind of misses the point of it. He rocks. Despite this, he has some sure 'misses' in his discography.
- House music has had tons of great tunes in the past year.
- Techno-based DJs defend their beloved like crazy when you imply they (sometimes) make house.. probably because poppy UK artists have done as good a job of ruining the average perception of the word 'house' as they did a few years back with prog.

badgers are HOUSE

everything else is up for debate


*BSO are possibly badgers in disguise

Loving isnt' even fodder. It's a definite poor release from an otherwise brilliant producer.

Pretty much every good DJ I've talked to, ever, apart from yourself, has said the same thing. But tastes vary,that's cool. Just that when someone as good as Lars can put out something like that, it's a massive drop in innovation and quality, and it won't date very well.

His other house track 'I Try' was way better, in fact, more so because it crossed boundaries very well - from house, techno, prog and even some trance. Nice effort. That is the kind of house brillience that Lars can come up with, you surely would agree?

Anyhow.

Speaking of this, I take it back about Dixon's track. The edit is irritating after the first listen. In fact, it's even fairly lack lustre to mix, which is a first for a Dixon tune for me

Well.. opinions usually count for a lot.. but since I've heard Carl Craig play it then lol to that!!!!

Or is he just banging out the fodder these days?

I'm guessing you discuss specific releases with three other DJs on average though so I'm doubting they add up to one Carl Craig.

Actually, I've talked about this release with perhaps 30 other djs... mainly cos it was such a miss. I have no idea why, which is the reason this resonated with me. Prob because it was disappointing, and I know a HELL of a lot of Funk D'Void fans.

As for Carl Craig, he's been known to play some crap in his time!

But still, I can see why it'd appeal to the more proggy end of the dj spectrum, that low end is perfect warm up deephouseprog. I just feel that on the Funk D'Void Scale of Brilliance it's about a 3. However that might just equate to a 6.5 on other people's scales! heh

Lars is also a freaking hot DJ. Surprised the hell out of me when I saw him cutting and weaving like a P-head on the run from the fuzz... Love to see him down here, one of those DJs that would really play right across the spectrum and engage everyone.

I can't fathom that we're talking about the same track. I can't say I recall anything other than props for it - in person or online. Even from some of Auckland more techy crew.

Are you sure you're not hanging out with too many people who only like tunes once they can confirm Hawtin has played them?

I don't know a single DJ that plays stuff that Hawtin plays... well, maybe one track out of 100... You probably play more Hawtin things

Are you guys arguing over whose got better taste or whose friends have better taste?

Neither. Over whether Matt knows 30 people who love Funk D'Void.

Well, if that's the case, I am going to disagree with both of you, and wonder if Funk D'Void still feels it necessary to beat-match while mixing.

Biggie Gold...this is why I still lurk

Fucking yawn.
A discussion about music from 15yrs ago, followed by the usual;

Rob likes old music.
Matt complains that techno is better
Jeff, Shhh.

Groundhog day continues.

Hi Deebee, Scandal!
Nice ta hear from ya
Anyone reading this arse should posse on over to the outerdrive post and download the mix there

Yes - the outerdrive specialise in the dated sound palettes which are sounding real fresh.
I feel a mix coming on.