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hohohohoho

So Bin Laden admits that he bombed WTC. Why the hell has it takne him this long to admit it. I reckon hes one big drop nuts and now were gonna ssee one big bomb. Wooohoooo. Flick back to CNN and it will be like watching 24 hours a day Saving Private Ryan.
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but remember that vid was made a month ago....apparently.
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well he needs to hire a new video production crew. would have been handy to watch that a month ago.

silly osama
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Yes, indeed. Incredibly interesting, so the US didn't even need the goddam evidence that has not been publicised. Hardly surprising - the admission that is.
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Why the hell can't the US tell everyone the evidence that they supposedly have? Or did they actually have any evidence?
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what solid evidence COULD they have??
i'm not convinced they have any...but thats all academic now innit.

hahaha 24hr Saving Private Ryan?? na dont think so mate, the US infantry are equipped with laptops though, maybe one of em can setup a webcam yea?
then we could all watch US forces designate strikes from a dugout. hold the laser steady now...fun fun fun!
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he never said he did it... it would have been a leading news story all over the world if he had, but only out shite paper and the sunday telegraph in london published it. bunch of arse if you ask me
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Yeah, well this could partly be because the video was not released to Al Jazeera, and partly because all the international networks have said they will not screen bin Laden's propoganda videos.

I don't agree with them not showing them, personally, but that could be why.
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hMMMMM well if the video shows Osama saying he did it then IO somehow doubt that he didnt do it Cactus. If you admit something to the world about somethng as big as that you tend to be quite serious.
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I dunno about that terrorist groups often admit guilt for acts they didn't do. What terrorist group wouldn't want to be responisible the the best(in the mind of a terrorist anyway) act the has been commited in many years perhaps ever.
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Well, it took them a while to admit to it. Who wants to admit to something like that if it leads to the US annhilating you? But if they're already annhilating you, then you may as well 'fess up?
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yee i rekon. he prolly wants some credit now that all his friends are dead and dying.

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i still think it wasn't osama...
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Ermmm.... okay. What's your reasoning/suspicions aims?
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well it's all like a movie right? well there has to a be a big plot twist at the end of every movie!
sooo being a movie analyst that i am, it will turn out to be Bush's right hand man.
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Osama inflicted more casualties with that one attack than Saddam did with a 650,000 strong army.
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aims: Oh right, so triviliasing your statement makes an argument. I see. *smile*

Vadinho: Really...? Interesting, if so...
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What more of a reason do i need? if politicians can make crap from nothing i figure i can also.


War's just a game of monopoly really, me big brother always wins *WTF* but i always come second *con-artist*
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Does make that stimulating a debate though. Very Happy Not to worry.
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I manage to stimulate myself with crap, maybe u don't. but hey everyone to their own Smile
this was never a debate arena... just a general discussion Smile
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heh.. we should have a scrapping forum.
where people can go in 'no rulles' un censored mud slinging at each other.

..with maybe a judge...or mediator
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i think it's all just a staged human culling... and hell we need it! the planet is getting overpopulated, kill us by the millions please, i'll go with them!
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You guys have been duped. Pres Bush paid the local dairy owner to make the taped admission to get public backing for his bloodlust

cactus_genie, good point

(ps. no racism intended)

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I heard nothing that had bin laden admitting - in that interview with the paki bloke he said that the wtc etc "were legitamite targets". Not that he hit em.

And even if they said he did, I wouldn't believe it unless I had someone I trusted (certainly not the media) who spoke arabic translate it for me word for word.
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This thing is an example of how irresponsible a lot of journalists and editors are. He didn't admit to it, he praised those who did it, and said that there'd be more. And we've got leading newspaers with headlines proclaiming his 'admission'...

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gizard/eight - you both exactly right there has been no admission, I for one don't believe he had anything to do with it. There are alot of forces at work here, not much of it to do with terrorisim....
Here is a link to the transcript of the statement
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0111/S00049.htm

also have a read of this link discussing the links between the "Bush and Bin Laden families" that have been going on for years
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0109/S00108.htm

This is another great read, where a renowned expert on the middle east talks about the motivations behind these events....
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0110/S00014.htm

there are a heap of stories out there that the mass media ignore because they are influenced by controlling powers , thank god the internet allows eveyone access to the truth - you have just gotta look !!!

- Spread the truth -
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The truth/conspiracy theory/popular myth. (?)

Doesn't make it the truth just because you read it somewhere that's not the mass media!
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if something like this is in the mass media, it as at best an adulterated version of the truth. there's so much money and politics involved in a major news source, it's going to get fucked up at several stages along the way. Stuff on the internet is just as problem filled, as anyone can post whatever the fuck they want - it's harder to verify anything, or back anything up sufficiently.

you will never read 'the truth' about this issue - not entirely, not anywhere.

oh, and one thing that really pisses me off - 'Jihad' does NOT translate as 'holy war'.
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Agreed! yes! I've been having that argument with a few people lately. Bloody media. I agree that the mass media is an 'enhanced' vesion of the truth, skewed towards western and American propaganda. Unfortunately, the other side has it's own share of propoganda in the form of sensationalist conspiracy theories that just aren't really credible.

Have you guys read albawaba.com before? I'm not sure who bankrolls it, but it seems like pretty balanced reporting on the whole, from what I've read. I guess it's hard to tell.
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I would like to clarify that the www.scoop site is all about. They do not add thier views to any of the "stories", all they do is report the "stories" as are, this gives YOU the reader the opertunity to use your OWN mind to decide if it is true/false or whatever....
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Yesssss, but the way in which stuff is written down determines the way that is is interpreted by readers too. I've found scoop.co.nz less than impartial at times, and lacking vital facts and information on some stories, that are quite important to forming a reasoned opinion. :-/
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The words chosen to communicate something reflect an opinion - they will carry a connotation that inflects towards certain readings. An objective report can never be given, as someone has to 'give' a report.

I just had a look at scoop.co.nz. Didn't know it existed; I'm glad I now do. Interesting, definately, though not impartial, but - I guess you pick the slant you choose to believe, and go with that.
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Yeah, agreed - Eight. Scoop has some good stuff, but a lot of it is heavily slanted towards the anti-war agenda, which is all good if that's what you support. They also love reporting on conspiracy theory stuff, and what may or may not be propaganda of Al Queda and the Taleban. That lessens my opinion of them.

I think the BBC is more impartial than most mass media publications, as suggested to me by someone to read. Who knows though.
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eight/voice - i agree with your comments.
there is more conspiracy type stuff on scoop but if it wasn't posted there you'd never even know it existed, I'm up for reading all points of view....
I find the stories taken from the 'Independant' to be impartial and balanced.
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Hehe, never trust a paper that /calls itself/ "Independent". *laughs* Yeah, well I agree - different points of view are valuable - especially for forming any rational or reasoned opinion!
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maybe... just read everything then u can sort out the truth from the fiction *yeah*
orrr u can be lazy like me become apolitical and watch the world fall apart *plans*
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"thinking can hurt ur chances, i intend to last"