Biggie House Forum Mix Off?

Who would be keen for an anonymous house forum mix off? Something to promote a bit of discussion, turn people onto new tunes, and highlight the talent that posts and lurks 'round these parts.

I've seen it work on another forum and suggest that if there's enough interest then participants anonymously register themselves by private message with the organiser, who then secretly gives them a number (Biggie House Forum Mix Off Number XX) and the login details to soundcloud where each mix is loaded up. With this number they encrypt, title and load their mix up onto soundcloud according to a timetable that is set out before the mix off begins (depending on numbers).

Once a mix is loaded up the organiser then starts a thread titled with the mix number. People can comment, critique and enquire about tunes.

It's not meant as a competition. By keeping it anonymous listeners won't have blinkered ears. I'd also suggest the mixer doesn't divulge their tracklist as this alters people's perceptions before listening; it also encourages discussion about the mix ("What's that Carl Craig sounding tune at 23 mins?", "It's actually Jay-J" (not likely)).

So without giving away the game is their a show of interest? Any suggestions for a smoother running? Any rules? Duration of mix? How far can people venture from 'house'?

If there is a non-participant who'd like to take ownership feel free to come forward; if not I'm happy to organise it. I'll give it till after the weekend and if there's enough interest will open it up to registration.

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Right, heres the chop:

You must PM Bn1 to register by Sunday 6th of September 2009 at 11:59:59pm at which point you will be assigned a number.

All mixes will be posted as a new thread anonymously using that number - don't let on if it's yours!

Naming convention: call your mix 'Biggie House Forum Mix Off [INSERT YOUR NUMBER HERE]'

Mixes are limited to 45 minutes each like half a T90 tape. If you go over, listeners will encouraged to stop listening at the 45 minute mark to turn the tape over.

Mixes can be made in any way you see fit on any medium.

House is a feeling, so stray where you will genre-wise but beware that by venturing into particularly niche territory you may give the game away.

Mixes will be released 2 per week, one on Monday, one on Thursday, so stay tuned...

sounds like fun

I'm in

It does sound fun, but the primary cue people use to tell whether a mix will be potentially good or not is the name of the person who made it.

I only listen to maybe two-three mixes a year posted here. And I don't really listen to that many mixes per se because they're mostly average even when I do like the artist.

Keen!

You sound a little grumpy today Rob!
Surely if names of people you (comparatively) respect register in the thread then you can be assured of some halfway quality mixes, and besides you can just skip through them on soundcloud to see if they are to your taste.. That way when websta drops a set of indie trance dubstep we can rapidly ignore it.

I think its a good idea but I don't have facilities to make a mix at the moment so my involvement will only be on the sidelines.
I reckon mixes of any length up to maybe 90 min, and no genre rules should apply.

Would have been a great idea but Rob can't vote!!

You'd think. But shockers are more common than good mixes even then.


Yeah.. skipping through a mix feels like either a waste of time to me or not giving any justice to the mix/DJ. Skipping through mixes is exactly what you don't want people doing if you want to spread your sound, vibe etc or to get any sort of fair appreciation of the mixes comparatively.

lets not let our tendancies to be anal music wankers defeat some house forum fun

if I do a 'mix' it will indeed be a shocker, its what I do, kill good tunes

djing is sooo 2001.

I'm in

Oh... I have had a coffee now and changed my mind. Lets do it - as long as it's a funky house mix competition.


(I'll show how, in a matter of days, I could chop those punks at their own game)

Any rating yet on the Chicago mini-mix bro?

Love it! Im in.

I reckon keep the mixes short though, I don't have time to listen to dozens of 90 minute mixes. Yes I know this places a fairly major limitation on what can be done, especially as I tend to draw my mixes right out, but everyone faces the same limitation innit.

sounds like fun, to be honest I prefer making longer mixes than shorter ones, but a 90min limit is fair, most will just be CD length anyway.

So do I, but I'm not worried about the making of said mixes, rather the listening

lets make it like 40 minutes.

Short n sweet...

I don't get the point of anonymity 100%, at the start sure, but half way through we gotta unmask that shit.

Like a moodman gig.

booya

This'll be the best circle jerk ever. We need some chciks.... and beer.

*runs off to find chicks*

rather rudely, i have yet to listen to it.

my days of stereo domination at work have gone so its all a bit more difficult now

i reckon 45mins, half a t90 cassette

like the old days

Yeah I agree with that, but if we wind up with 20 anonymous electro/fidget/whatever subgenre you dislike mixes, I'm going to skip through them all the same. If its only a handful of mixes from regular forum contributers then I'll definitely check them all properly.

Seconded!

best to set it up soon then, it's been 3 months since my last one so was going to do one over the next couple of weeks....

weeeee!

but thats what is happening already!
The point is to get people to drop their preconceptions and hear somebody different.
Like me listening to a mix you do, it would never happen if i knew you had done it, cos your rubbish, but if i didn't know it was you i might be surprsied that it was more rubbish than i would expect, which wodl be surprise cos i know it would be super rubbish

but the finding out would be exciting!

45 mins 'tis

will try squirt one out this weekend! Who's gunna be the fat controller? Warner lost us at boring so he's out...

I reckon Proof

Proof might be keen to do one as well though (plus I reckon he'd be a good addition to the mix - no pun intended), I reckon it should be someone who, for one reason or another, can't put a mix together...

Benny it is!

Nippon Controller

wankers I was planing a 41 min mix to be different and now...

*plans three day dronefest with horns*

Dammit bob, now we know which one is yours

Yeah I can't take part so I'm happy to organise it if no-one else wants to. This way Scandal, Proof and any other interested parties can get in there.

Websta: yeah I actually can't mix at all so I had lelo "ghost mix" all the mixes I've ever given you, so what you thought was rubbish was actually his work.

Sure.

Hmmmm....Im picking you dudes will know who the anonymous wannabe french wanker dj will be then?

Ill do a special Cryda mix just for you Websta!!

i might be keen.. having a few technical issues with serato and my turntables atm, if i can get them sorted then it would be kinda cool to have a completely anonymous mix go out..

if you lads can cope with a chick mixing it up, of course.

No Serato as you can put out an average mix on it. Let do a vinyl only one...

yeah, if youre a cheater! that would be a massive fail in my book. i dont check the tracking, i still mix as if i were using two records (with my ears even) and i certainly have nothing set up to beatmatch.

but if yous would rather be sticklers for no technology then i wont partake. all my tunes are in my computer.. and all my records are well ancient now. if im gonna do a mix id rather do it with whats relevant to me atm, not what i was playing 5 or even 10 years ago.

whatever though, no skin off my nose.

a 'mix' is a mix... the means to put it together should not be an issue today

puter, wax, cassette whatever

what he said.

mine will be handed in as sheet music

keeping the old skool vibe alive on one piece of a4 paper and 41 minutes of other peoples music

apologies in advance for the stains

crayons are the new house

will you do it with each foot on a different skateboard?

i will buy you a pimms to celebrate if so.

I could do that, and for a pimms it is very tempting... however the crayon is a scared animal in the daktari household

to use ones feet is disrespectful in the extreme

OK, so to recap:

The mix can be done on any medium
45mins is the time limit
Bn1 to orchestrate tings


One more thing we need to discuss:

How far can people venture form 'house'?

mine will be done under the premise that house is a feeling not a four four beat

Agreed bob, so to recap again...

The mix can be done on any medium
45mins is the time limit
Bn1 to orchestrate tings
House is a feeling not a 4/4 beat - interpret how you will


Left to do: register interest with Bn1 by PM so that you can be assigned a number. We're going to need a biggie soundcloud account as well. And Scandal - whats this about a timtables etc? When do we need to have the mixes done?

i think we shouldn't limit it to house, feeling or otherwise, make it music that you love in the form of 45mins of listening.
That way we can avoid any `thats not house' debates.

Perhaps have no real timeframe and load them up as they come, and have threads to discuss each one?

What Websta said...
Started mine already - although it's fair to say Websta and a couple others will spot it immediately.

that is house

fucked if I'm playing girly dance music during my 'mix'

Defining house as a feeling is just way of getting around exactly what you're talking about. Basically, play whatever you want...

Mixing off Vinyl ensures that the mix will not be average?

AWESOME!

Oh I'm probably in too.

'Breaks is a House Feeling'

Mwahahaha

my turnies are being looked at on wednesday.. hopefully they will be all repaired by the weekend and then i will crack into a mix.

mine is going to be besed around gregorian chant music and enya. if that doesnt say 'feeling', i dont know what does.

Damn it all to hell! Go sit in the corner with bob daktari now that we know which ones both of your mixes will be

so much anger



love gregorian chanting, me... but enya... how many overdubs do ya need bitch?

i actaully had a go at this yesterday, got 2 mixes started, got angry, gave up and watched the cricket instead and got even angrier

Your weakness is your anger!











...yours are your friendsss

No whale noises at dawn either Proof!

Ok guys, send me a PM to register interest

Should I come up with some kind of schedule (like one per week or such) and let the participants know the schedule, or just post em as they come as per websta's suggestion...

No problem either way but the latter option might mean a bunch of stuff gets posted at the same time which might reduce the amount of debate or attention on each mix.

Agree, given that theyre only 45 minute mixes however, I think maybe two released per week on the same day.

Thats my opinion though and ultimately tis up to you Bn1

dunno how soundcloud works, but I'd suggest the mixes are loaded up and they get made viewable/playable/downloadable to the public (us) one at a time with a few days for download/listen comment then the next is made live etc.

So we get through them fast(ish) so the whole affair don't drag on for months but you all will still have time to applaud my noble effort(s)

Soundcloud would be cool but you'd need a pro account. The free accounts only allow you to do 5 uploads a month.. Maybe could get someone to host them locally and put a quick-link page.

my thoughts weren't so much of getting a timetble done but the knowledge that trying to get djs to work to a timelimit will be an absolute disaster!

how amny years did it take Rob to do his box mix?

This could be an issue.

Yeah, actually that makes sense bob.

We could talk to Kris_b or ShaunieBoy about hosting tings, unless someone actually participating here can do...

Will everyone have to post a wanky review:

I heard he started it when those tunes were actually brand new...

Wanky reviews will be necessary

Kris_b might be happy to do the hosting things if we ask nicely.. I have no idea how difficult it is. But I guess there wouldn't be a huge amount of downloads of each mix.

I'd say we could host them on stinkfinger but I have no idea how that works either, and the man who does is busy being a gypsy.

I can put em on te finger -I channel the gypsy... though I don't know how reliable I will be over the next month or so as I am finally getting that boob job done

in. Hit up Kris B to host on guidance imo, if you give him a link he can suck it up at lightning speed

Technically I did - I was vetting them, culling the list down for a decade.

Then recorded off the tunes which weren't available digitally and de-clicked/remastered them.

Then mixed it in about 3 hrs and then another 3 editing/mastering it.

i have booked some time around 2020 for this mix dingle to be done

Alright well I've Pm'd Kris_b so we'll see what he reckons regarding the hosting.

In terms of timing, how about people let me know when they complete a mix. I will assign them a mix number (ie 'mix01') and get them hosted and posted, maybe 2 a week, 1 on monday and 1 on thursday.. Any excess mixes that are finished that week will be first in line for the following week.

If we get a ridiculously high number of mixes I will up the posting rate so this doesn't drag on forever.

Everyone please register with me this week so I know who is taking part. Registration ends by sunday (that gives non regular forum goers a chance to see this thread). If we can sort the hosting stuff we may be able to start this off next week

aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

do we have any highly motivated djs out there??

how wide are we throwing the net here?

i thought this was for house forum regulars only?

i'm not much interested in every berk with 5 electrohouse records using this as there platform for superstardom

after the 1st 3 ratshit mixes by people i haven't met/heard of on here i will lose interest real fast and probably get rather snarky...

Yeah its anonymous though which should keep the majority of superstardom hunters at bay.

It'd be nice to have at least a few randoms mixed in with the regulars who have already indicated their interest in this thread.

well i suppose if its on the convenors mind its a start.

but it would be nice if its a biggie house thing that it is made by those who speak here

dont be all l33t Websta, i dont really give a toss for house, but its a good idea, one worth being part of for a bit o fun innit.

l33t
i have no idea what that means.

but you can fit in as your a proper biggie, but if we end up with 2 people from here doing mixes and 20 by gits from elsewhere, our game won't be our game anymore.

comprende?
i'm not hating on people, just trying to keep it personal.

Heh, remember Bn1 is adjudicating so if superstarrecordsuk or nzraver1989 tries to register, its at Bn1s discretion whether to post that mix

I'd also like to see a couple of sets from lurkers

I'll edit the OP with key deets for people who can't find everything scattered through the thread

aiight, i get you, fair enough

l33t = elite

oh, that was me lol

LOL @ outing your own troll

/takes note of "Sugarcube"

nah man, the mrs heh

if you dont hush your mouth im going to add some clanad in as well.

Yeah, reckon... If a vagina could sing it would sound like Enya.

Anyway. I enjoy them Monks chanting sampling tunes too. Got quite a few as it was quite big in the tribally end of prog for a while.

(OK, blatant joke stealing from some comedian)

Yeah I understand websta; as C_T says I will use my discretion.. Hopefully it won't be a big issue though.

btw Kris B is currently applying his brain to the hosting logistics so fingers crossed we can work something out with him.

Keep an eye in the thread for the hosting details etc.

I just had a thought, if Soundcloud only lets you do five uploads a month, then that should be sweet.
We just post one a week, which leaves the rest of the week to discuss/flame/roast/scoff/laugh or chortle even.

I like the idea of two per week...

"when comparing mix a to mix b obvious differences in bla bla were noticeable wahwahwah"

but yeah, getting these out at some kind of regular interval will probably be a little hard to coordinate from everyone.


Also like the idea of it being put it somewhere with a bit of biggie-cred.

Away this weekend but should get one done soon after..

Agree, its a house forum so it needs to be house. Each other forum can do the same and then we can have a grand final with the best mix of each forum.

They still release house music these days?

of course they do

some fools call it techno however

Ok cool... define house then

yous need to stop being so pedantic. i play house, but sometimes i throw some other stuff in there too.. does it matter if there are a few things that arent strictly 4four?

this debate could go on for days.. cant it just be for house forum regulars, mix what youre feeling atm..?

My mix will be nu-house in 6/8 timing - is that OK?

pffft 6/8? thats still even measures, do one in 3/7.

this

buggered if I am doing a house 'mix'... thats for DJs and DJ wanna bes

I'm making a mixtape