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Happy fucking days... Great to see the aussie cricket team get some medicine.. Its been a long time since they have been so weak.. The empire has finally crumbled
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Although pretty friendly bowling conditions..
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Friendly perhaps however Aus def don't have the bowlers to make use of it. Well not in this innings anyway ...

Pakistan can be proud of their bowling, its been a ripper of a morning and tbh they are pretty good overall. If it wasn't for the batting they would have been a very good side.

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doof..doof said:
Happy fucking days... Great to see the aussie cricket team get some medicine.. Its been a long time since they have been so weak.. The empire has finally crumbled


Heard this every year since 2005, they keep "de crumbling" every year

wouldn't you rather this aussie team at the top of the pile, rather than the jaapies or that pathetic selection of egomaniacs masquerading as the england team?
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vadinho said:
pathetic selection of egomaniacs masquerading as the england team?


Don't you mean selection of Jaapies masquerading as the England team?
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vadinho said:
wouldn't you rather this aussie team at the top of the pile, rather than the jaapies or that pathetic selection of egomaniacs masquerading as the england team?


Egomaniacs? I know you'll say KP, but he's pretty fucken mellow these days - and his ego is nowhere near as big as the likes of Watson and Ponting. Australian cricket can eat a bag of dicks, and they are DEFINITELY falling back into the pack now. They'll never be a shit team, but they're becoming as beatable as anyone else and you cannot deny that.

I love the English cricket team - and would love to see them at the top. There's nfw I'd ever support a Saffa or Australian cricket team, and I find it amusing that you even refer to the egos of the English when those two teams in particular have traditionally had the biggest egos going.

Laughing

gc.
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Supamaorifulla said:
I love the English cricket team - and would love to see them at the top. There's nfw I'd ever support a Saffa or Australian cricket team, and I find it amusing that you even refer to the egos of the English when those two teams in particular have traditionally had the biggest egos going.

Laughing

gc.


Is the love due to your passing resemblence with Alastair Cook?
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Supamaorifulla said:
vadinho said:
wouldn't you rather this aussie team at the top of the pile, rather than the jaapies or that pathetic selection of egomaniacs masquerading as the england team?


Egomaniacs? I know you'll say KP, but he's pretty fucken mellow these days - and his ego is nowhere near as big as the likes of Watson and Ponting. Australian cricket can eat a bag of dicks, and they are DEFINITELY falling back into the pack now. They'll never be a shit team, but they're becoming as beatable as anyone else and you cannot deny that.

I love the English cricket team - and would love to see them at the top. There's nfw I'd ever support a Saffa or Australian cricket team, and I find it amusing that you even refer to the egos of the English when those two teams in particular have traditionally had the biggest egos going.

Laughing

gc.


Mate, you know from my posts the historical english cricket teams are my fave
My all time XIs are FULL of Pom cricketers

However ever since the 1970s or so, (I blame Botham), the English cricket team has lost what made it wonderful: its purity, its embodiment of what cricket means

Hobbs replaced by Kieswetter
Shazad? What a good English name that is
Fucking Kevin Pietersen
Whiny boy fast bowlers like Stuart Broad. your dad was a cricketer, son, you're a sack of shit.

When Yorkshire has guys named "Rashid" playing for them, you know the world has turned to shit.

There are no true Englishmen left in the team! And before you spout 'racism', plenty of the non-Englishmen are white.

Australia has never tried to be better than it is, so it's current team is no decline. But when your team was once a veritable pantheon of sporting gods, you have a longgg way to fall.
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vadinho said:
Australia has never tried to be better than it is, so it's current team is no decline.


I have no idea what that means. What I do know, though, is that the current team sucks balls compared to the dynasty of 10 years ago, and I love it.


vadinho said:
There are no true Englishmen left in the team! And before you spout 'racism', plenty of the non-Englishmen are white.


It's not really a race thing - you just struggle with a very myopic view of national identity. Just because someone is of Asian, African or German descent, doesn't mean they can't represent a nation that has afforded them all of the opportunities they needed to play at the highest level. Do you hate Andrew Strauss because he has a German name? He's born and bred English mate. Do you hate Eoin Morgan for being Welsh? Paul Collingwood? Alastair Cook? Stuart Broad? Iain Bell? Steven Finn? James Anderson? Denly, Lumb, Plunkett, Sidebottom, Yardy, Wright...

Fuck's sake man they're as English as bangers and mash. The occasional curried flavoured sausage or boerewors doesn't make them a betrayal of the classic dish. The world is getting smaller, you just have to deal with people shifting their allegiances. You're the one who constantly goes on about fully adopting the country that you move to.

Wink

gc.
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nothing wrong with south africa on top

surely better than having india or australia on top
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Supamaorifulla said:
[Do you hate Andrew Strauss because he has a German name? He's born and bred English mate.


I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I'm pretty sure Strauss was born in South Africa Smile

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I love the English. In all sports. They get far too hard a time from too many quarters imo. The problem with the Proteas dominating world cricket is they promise to be every bit as arrogant swaggering and preening champions as the Aussies were. Plus there would be you 3 to deal with on here Razz

We have no right to judge the make up of the English Cricket anymore than the English have the right to judge the Auckland rugby team for being full of Islanders. Because lo and behold...thats what Auckland is.
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gummi_bear said:
I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I'm pretty sure Strauss was born in South Africa


Ah sure. Point still stands really - he's a full geezer. Doesn't matter where you're born.

Smile

gc.
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neil_armstrong said:
surely better than having india or australia on top


Better than Australia, but I love the Indian cricket team. Not a fan of their management, but I generally love the players.

Smile

gc.
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The Maestro said:
IThe problem with the Proteas dominating world cricket is they promise to be every bit as arrogant swaggering and preening champions as the Aussies were.


Neutral
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Supamaorifulla said:

Fuck's sake man they're as English as bangers and mash. The occasional curried flavoured sausage or boerewors doesn't make them a betrayal of the classic dish. The world is getting smaller, you just have to deal with people shifting their allegiances. You're the one who constantly goes on about fully adopting the country that you move to.

Wink

gc.


Bangers and mash isn't English, it's lower class chav.
English cricketers should have servants, smoke cigars, and dine at the Ritz. They need proper accents. Not necessarily RP accents, but good Yorkshire accents.

And yeah fully adopting the country is good, but england isnt like NZ or USA>.. its not an immigrant nation
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The Maestro said:
I love the English. In all sports. They get far too hard a time from too many quarters imo. The problem with the Proteas dominating world cricket is they promise to be every bit as arrogant swaggering and preening champions as the Aussies were. Plus there would be you 3 to deal with on here Razz

We have no right to judge the make up of the English Cricket anymore than the English have the right to judge the Auckland rugby team for being full of Islanders. Because lo and behold...thats what Auckland is.


Because AUCKLAND isn't LONDON you idiot

New Zealand is an immigrant nation, and that's awesome

England on the other hand peaked with a combination of Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and Normans. It was the epitome of greatness until the 1950s.
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Supamaorifulla said:
neil_armstrong said:
surely better than having india or australia on top


Better than Australia, but I love the Indian cricket team. Not a fan of their management, but I generally love the players.

Smile

gc.


FFS.
Pakistan is much better than India. More talent. Fewer floppy haired faggots. OK, Akhtar, but the entire Indian team is full of arrogant cocksuckers.
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gummi_bear said:
The Maestro said:
IThe problem with the Proteas dominating world cricket is they promise to be every bit as arrogant swaggering and preening champions as the Aussies were.


Neutral



I left out cheating


Plus.....ok maybe not as bad Razz
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vadinho said:
Supamaorifulla said:

Fuck's sake man they're as English as bangers and mash. The occasional curried flavoured sausage or boerewors doesn't make them a betrayal of the classic dish. The world is getting smaller, you just have to deal with people shifting their allegiances. You're the one who constantly goes on about fully adopting the country that you move to.

Wink

gc.


Bangers and mash isn't English, it's lower class chav.
English cricketers should have servants, smoke cigars, and dine at the Ritz. They need proper accents. Not necessarily RP accents, but good Yorkshire accents.

And yeah fully adopting the country is good, but england isnt like NZ or USA>.. its not an immigrant nation


And... You're out.

England has become an immigration it seems your hate stems from some ancient ideal about a country you know jack shit about now. The England where people had servants and Lords lived in manors in the country is all but gone, and been replaced by a system where your lineage isn't linked to your lot in life - obviously being born into money will make things easier but that's the same here, it's just now being born onto poverty no longer means spending your whole life that way. There are probably more people immigrating to Great Britain now than to New Zealand or Australia because the EU makes it harder to limit immigration criteria because there are hundreds of millions of people who are citizens of the EU. The reason people called Rashid play for Yorkshire is that there are thousands of people called Rashid in Yorkshire, and thousands of Mohammeds, and Sayids, yet there are comparatively few called Baron Nordsworth of Leeds or Lord Cumberband of Sheffield.
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Also for a nationalist left wing communist you seem to have a massive fixation with a society that was essentially a class based feudal system.
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vadinho said:
Pakistan is much better than India. More talent. Fewer floppy haired faggots. OK, Akhtar, but the entire Indian team is full of arrogant cocksuckers.


I just don't identify with the vastly more sinister personas and culture of Pakistanis. Probably something to do with being very militant, but the individuals that I like are few and far between in Pakistan's colours. On the other hand India often produce guys that I like - and though some of them may have a cocky swagger they'll never have the 'tude exhibited by the likes of any blonde haired Ocker.

Wink

gc.
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Jono said:
England has become an immigration it seems your hate stems from some ancient ideal about a country you know jack shit about now. The England where people had servants and Lords lived in manors in the country is all but gone, and been replaced by a system where your lineage isn't linked to your lot in life - obviously being born into money will make things easier but that's the same here, it's just now being born onto poverty no longer means spending your whole life that way. There are probably more people immigrating to Great Britain now than to New Zealand or Australia because the EU makes it harder to limit immigration criteria because there are hundreds of millions of people who are citizens of the EU. The reason people called Rashid play for Yorkshire is that there are thousands of people called Rashid in Yorkshire, and thousands of Mohammeds, and Sayids, yet there are comparatively few called Baron Nordsworth of Leeds or Lord Cumberband of Sheffield.


Contemporary "England" deserves the title no more than contemporary Italy is the new Roman Empire.
The ideal of England is dead - can't we at least grieve a little for it?

I have no problem with guys like Rashid playing for NZ. In fact we need a legspinner. I have a problem with them playing for England.

NZ = multicultural, black/white/yellow nation. And awesome for it. I wouldn't trade it for he world
England = Anglo-Saxon victors of Agincourt. EFT.
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The trouble is grieving for the ideal of England is rhetoric used to drum up support for the Britsh National Party, and other right wing extremists.
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Jono said:
The trouble is grieving for the ideal of England is rhetoric used to drum up support for the Britsh National Party, and other right wing extremists.


Well if the government got off their chuff and executed those fascists bastards - which I'd support - there'd be no such problem would there!
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20 bucks says Aus still take the test.

And FUCK YOU SKY TV CRICKET HATING CUNTS. Not being able to watch Aussie get rolled or Murali take 800 wickets and smoking India is a goddam travesty. Oh wait, replays of some shitty rally, or guys driving in a circle, last weeks pga, magazine shows or Whats On are way better! CUNTS!