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could he have got that more wrong?
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I thought it was a pretty good effort to stir the pot. I assume he wasn't being serious or was quoted slightly out of context.

Are Archbishops known for being funny?

R
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But what Dr Williams advances is still the jurisprudence of appeasement, moral cowardice dressed up as worthy cerebration. His lecture was a victory for those who believe that the liberal West is weak. It will hearten those who suspect that we fear confrontation more than we value our own beliefs, and that, with time, we can be coaxed into incremental surrender.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/10/nsharia310.xml

by the same author
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And, as in all good rows, a show-down looms. Will the Synod unite behind Williams this week or decide that enough is enough? For all the prayers, and hushed tones, this is politics red in tooth and claw.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/496436/an-arch-row.thtml

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/498681/the-archbishop-of-cant.thtml

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/495331/canterbury-tales.thtml


the bearded one
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taken completely out of context.

this whole thing is really getting stupid now. I don't see any problem with what he said, and incidentally, what he's suggesting is already part of english law.
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come on Neil join the lynch mob...

there can be no compromise, no backing down, no letup in the war on Islam
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it is no such thing and yes he has been taken to task and rightly so
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from that article:

As the Muslim feminist Irshad Manji puts it: "When it comes to contemporary sharia, choice is theory; intimidation is the reality."
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neil_armstrong said:
taken completely out of context.

this whole thing is really getting stupid now. I don't see any problem with what he said, and incidentally, what he's suggesting is already part of english law.


BS neil. As a member of a CHRISTIAN church he should not back down from doctrinal precepts; it may be dogma, but that is what faith is about. Wishy-washy philosophising and social relativity has no place in religion, because religion is as much about "truths" as maths and logic. Either you believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, or you don't, same as you either believe that 0<1 or you don't. You can't relativise.

And, yes. There can be no letup in the war.

Don't forget THEY STARTED IT. Islam has been an aggressive, expansionist force since well before 1000AD.
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Laughing at the they started it call Vads

coming from a five year old thats a great arguement, a adult... well
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bob daktari said:
Laughing at the they started it call Vads

coming from a five year old thats a great arguement, a adult... well


Well we have a right of self defence don't we?

We Slavs remember historical slights :>
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of course we have the right to self defence... so where are we under attack

seems to me its the chrisitan & jewish nations attacking muslims not the other way round, currently

peace is a much better goal than war for ever

***as a total aside - is it me, or don't the arch bishops of canterbury have a almost history of saying odd (weird... call it what you will) things in our modern times? I had a bit of a dig but couldn't find anything but I am sure there's been similar but unrelated incidents over the years
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"vadinho" said:
bob daktari said:


We Slavs remember historical slights :>



you can say that again! Razz
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bob daktari said:
of course we have the right to self defence... so where are we under attack

seems to me its the chrisitan & jewish nations attacking muslims not the other way round, currently


Yeah, cos we Christians stole Kosovo right?

Get your facts straight.
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bob daktari said:

***as a total aside - is it me, or don't the arch bishops of canterbury have a almost history of saying odd (weird... call it what you will) things in our modern times? I had a bit of a dig but couldn't find anything but I am sure there's been similar but unrelated incidents over the years


this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Edward_Jenkins
copped a lot of flak from the tory press over the years that you were in the UK so you maybe thinking of him
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vadinho said:
Yeah, cos we Christians stole Kosovo right?

Get your facts straight.


I speaking generally
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justice Afghani style

The New Zealand Government has protested to Afghanistan over the death sentence handed down for an Afghan journalism student.

Sayed Parweiz Kambakhsh was sentenced to death last month for distributing a report considered to be blasphemous and offensive to Islam.

"We are deeply concerned by the sentence passed on this young man for exercising freedom of speech," Prime Minister Helen Clark said this morning.

"Mr Kambakhsh's detention and trial have been marked by a number of irregularities, including the fact he had no legal counsel."

Miss Clark said the New Zealand ambassador in Tehran had made representations to the Afghanistan government.

The student had used a report on women's rights in Islam during lectures at Balkh University in Mazar-i-Sharif in northern Afghanistan.

He is appealing the sentence and his case has been taken up by the United States and Britain.

- NZPA